BigDaddyG wrote:Anyone here watch the game on MSG+? I'm not reading good things about it on Reddit

Meaningless first preseason game that was nonetheless a win but the natives are restless….it’s New York basketball again!

Not only NY Sports media but even the Boston broadcasters had a field day with this EF / Thibs relationship. The more EF talks and plays like this, the more attention he will get and eventually get traded.

But is it just me? I like angry EF. I’ve said this since he came here. Great shooter to have off the bench, especially on a team that lacks efficiency from deep.

blkexec wrote:

Rookie wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Rookie wrote:

martin wrote:

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Hopefully it’s because someone in camp impressed and is getting a chance at b/u PF

Deuce McBride?

Sims maybe? I’m still all in on Jacob Toppin to make the team. Let the deuce McToppin era begin

I second that. Big Jacob toppin fan. I believe he has a lot of potential on both ends.

Sell us on Jacob please. Didn’t see much last night but its just one preseason game. He is 23. Them Toppin boys are late bloomers.
I like angry EF also! Can’t say media attention gets him traded or Boston (who he played for) has any influence but at 18mil its not an easy contract to move and either knicks asked too much, or teams wanted to dump something on us we did not want.
Teams know what Evan is and he is a solid pro. They say his FIBA game and understand his limitations.
For the most part the teams that had cap space were young and want to give minutes to yoot.
The team that can use him most likley will wait for a buyout. I assume he wants to play, not just sit and get paid.

Sleeper contender, but we have the pieces to make that trade to make us a perennial contender.

Nalod wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Rookie wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Rookie wrote:

martin wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/StevePopper/status/1711497886439997772

Hopefully it’s because someone in camp impressed and is getting a chance at b/u PF

Deuce McBride?

Sims maybe? I’m still all in on Jacob Toppin to make the team. Let the deuce McToppin era begin

I second that. Big Jacob toppin fan. I believe he has a lot of potential on both ends.

Sell us on Jacob please. Didn’t see much last night but its just one preseason game. He is 23. Them Toppin boys are late bloomers.
I like angry EF also! Can’t say media attention gets him traded or Boston (who he played for) has any influence but at 18mil its not an easy contract to move and either knicks asked too much, or teams wanted to dump something on us we did not want.
Teams know what Evan is and he is a solid pro. They say his FIBA game and understand his limitations.
For the most part the teams that had cap space were young and want to give minutes to yoot.
The team that can use him most likley will wait for a buyout. I assume he wants to play, not just sit and get paid.

Think if you took Obi and added 50 points to his basketball IQ. Jacob is a high energy effort guy who won't get lost on D or miss rotations. He is a dogged defender who will crash the boards and doesn't shy away from contact. He will get you garbage baskets, back door cuts and rebound like a demon possessed. He can dribble and pass and will be constant motion on offense if not made to stand in the corner. His weakness is his shot. It doesn't look very reliable and I am not sure it ever will be. He has a prototypical Wings body and athleticism which is a plus on a team that has a lot of tweeners. He knows how to play and is always around the ball on both ends. He should develop into a nice NBA bench guy. While I don't know this, I think he is likely a very good lockeroom guy also. This kid is going to make an NBA team and he has all the attributes of a 'Thibs guy'.

Rookie wrote:

Nalod wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Rookie wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Rookie wrote:

martin wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/StevePopper/status/1711497886439997772

Hopefully it’s because someone in camp impressed and is getting a chance at b/u PF

Deuce McBride?

Sims maybe? I’m still all in on Jacob Toppin to make the team. Let the deuce McToppin era begin

I second that. Big Jacob toppin fan. I believe he has a lot of potential on both ends.

Sell us on Jacob please. Didn’t see much last night but its just one preseason game. He is 23. Them Toppin boys are late bloomers.
I like angry EF also! Can’t say media attention gets him traded or Boston (who he played for) has any influence but at 18mil its not an easy contract to move and either knicks asked too much, or teams wanted to dump something on us we did not want.
Teams know what Evan is and he is a solid pro. They say his FIBA game and understand his limitations.
For the most part the teams that had cap space were young and want to give minutes to yoot.
The team that can use him most likley will wait for a buyout. I assume he wants to play, not just sit and get paid.

Think if you took Obi and added 50 points to his basketball IQ. Jacob is a high energy effort guy who won't get lost on D or miss rotations. He is a dogged defender who will crash the boards and doesn't shy away from contact. He will get you garbage baskets, back door cuts and rebound like a demon possessed. He can dribble and pass and will be constant motion on offense if not made to stand in the corner. His weakness is his shot. It doesn't look very reliable and I am not sure it ever will be. He has a prototypical Wings body and athleticism which is a plus on a team that has a lot of tweeners. He knows how to play and is always around the ball on both ends. He should develop into a nice NBA bench guy. While I don't know this, I think he is likely a very good lockeroom guy also. This kid is going to make an NBA team and he has all the attributes of a 'Thibs guy'.

So I agree with most of what you said, and keep in mind, I followed Jacob as soon as I realized Obi had a brother. My assessment is not based on a preseason game btw. Eventhough he showed glimpses of what I like about him.

Jacobs jump shot might look funky or unreliable, but I believe his mid range jumper can be reliable over time, similar to how Obi was trending into a decent 3 pt shooter. But Jacob right now is better than Obi when he came into the league, as far as defense and IQ. If you look at highlights of Jacob, you will see him bricking shots, then the next game, he can't miss. So it's very inconsistent, but who's jumper is consistent as an undrafted rookie. Jeremi Grant jumper was terrible. Now he's a reliable shooter. I can see Jacobs jumper coming around sooner than later. But right now he has 2 way potential. Personally I like his motor at a young age, which is something you can't teach.

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