gradyandrew wrote:

martin wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/fact-check-vivek-ramaswamy-the-atlantic-911-misquoted/index.html

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

They've already been on the debate stage together once, Trump already lost.

Vivek is going to die a very quick candidate death.

That was (checking watch) 3 years ago. I'm just going by recent appearances at the mic where Joe looks old and doddering and Trump is still going strong an hour into a speech without notes. There were a lot of factors working against Trump in 2000, Coviid, the recession, the impeachment trials, etc. and he still almost won. Trump's indictments haven't done anything to hurt his rep with Republican voters yet and likely won't.

There is a wide swath of idiots who still support Trump but what you claim here is incorrect.

Actually a lot of what you have written is not correct.

gradyandrew wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/fact-check-vivek-ramaswamy-the-atlantic-911-misquoted/index.html

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

Trump isn't a viable candidate and should have long been arrested and thrown in jail. The fact that he still allowed to run just continues to expose how accountability has been completely stripped away at the top. We all saw him incite an insurrection. In an attempt to stop a peaceful transfer of power, in an election he lost. That alone is treason. Which is practically the biggest crime in politics. But even if his treason and stolen documents case are to complicated for people to follow. And you fall for the narrative that he was justified because the election was stolen(though proven wrong in court multiple times over these past years). And this is all just the Democrats looking to tie him up in court for election interference(Even though its all Republican who are testifying in order to avoid their own charges)

Dude was found guilty of sexual assault and ordered to pay $5 million in damages for it a couple months ago. That isn't to complicated for the average joe to grasp. Though watching treason live on television shouldn't be either. If his sexual assault conviction isn't hammered home at every chance by his opponents. What are they even doing? Honestly the fact that it hasn't buried him as soon as he was convicted. And his political opponents haven't flooded the airways painting him as the rapist he is already is a misstep.

With all that said even if he is able to run, does run and doesn't get thrown in jail from the 4 indictments and 91 crimes and counting with a RICO being one of them. One thing the midterms have shown is that young people are starting to vote and they are favoring Democratic views. They are going to vote for environment and right to choose. Which is why GOP now want to raise the age limit knowing this can sway elections going forward.

I don't see what Trump has done since losing to Biden other than catch charges for rape, treason & obstruction to beat him out this time. The only variable is the level of racism, ignorance, and stupidity of American people which Trump represents as their champion.

Getting convicted of a crime is a lot harder than getting elected. Remember the rape conviction was a civil suit in New York and it's still on appeal. I'm just trying to picture jury selection in Georgia. How do you find 12 people who don't have an opinion one way or another?

The nation is too divided to handle another Trump run.

Due to already being convicted of rape that "should" eliminate anyone from being able to run. If he were to win the appeal putting the trial back on. Then I could see the case for him being able to run. But that would be Democracy which he and his base tried to overthrow.

He attempted a coup live on television. There should already be grounds for withholding him from being able to run until he is able to clear himself from treason. But this just me saying what should be due to the nature of treason and the position he is looking to obtain. And surprised and alarmed that this isn't already the case.

And again just through the game of politics alone even if you weren't someone morally inclined. The fact that it isn't hammered home that the biggest threat in Trump has been convicted of rape to the American public is a grave misstep. His base isn't going to care. But you want to ensure anyone who for some reason is on the fence is clearly aware.

newyorknewyork wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Nalod wrote:Biden is the lessor of evils when forced to vote.
If this is the best of what we can bring to a vote, then I go to the lessor of evil.

Then you have this self serving, say anything to appeal to gullible audience:https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/22/politics/fact-check-vivek-ramaswamy-the-atlantic-911-misquoted/index.html

Biden is actually a pretty decent president. He may be old and jumbles his words, but his brain and judgment seem to remain pretty sharp, or at least he has sharp people making decisions around him.

My biggest concern would be his VP. I am a bit surprised at how low-profile Kamala has been, which makes me wonder how ready she is to step in and provide determined leadership and direction.

My problem with Biden is that he is not going far enough in terms of expanding civil liberties, and that he does not seem to care about the ballooning government debt. In this regard Vivek is saying some things that resonate.

The thing for me is if it's Biden and Trump up on the debate stage there's no way Trump loses. Biden will look too old and with the inflation that will be enough to sink Joe in the election. Vivek is looking like the only guy who can save the country from another 4 years of Trump.

Trump isn't a viable candidate and should have long been arrested and thrown in jail. The fact that he still allowed to run just continues to expose how accountability has been completely stripped away at the top. We all saw him incite an insurrection. In an attempt to stop a peaceful transfer of power, in an election he lost. That alone is treason. Which is practically the biggest crime in politics. But even if his treason and stolen documents case are to complicated for people to follow. And you fall for the narrative that he was justified because the election was stolen(though proven wrong in court multiple times over these past years). And this is all just the Democrats looking to tie him up in court for election interference(Even though its all Republican who are testifying in order to avoid their own charges)

Dude was found guilty of sexual assault and ordered to pay $5 million in damages for it a couple months ago. That isn't to complicated for the average joe to grasp. Though watching treason live on television shouldn't be either. If his sexual assault conviction isn't hammered home at every chance by his opponents. What are they even doing? Honestly the fact that it hasn't buried him as soon as he was convicted. And his political opponents haven't flooded the airways painting him as the rapist he is already is a misstep.

With all that said even if he is able to run, does run and doesn't get thrown in jail from the 4 indictments and 91 crimes and counting with a RICO being one of them. One thing the midterms have shown is that young people are starting to vote and they are favoring Democratic views. They are going to vote for environment and right to choose. Which is why GOP now want to raise the age limit knowing this can sway elections going forward.

I don't see what Trump has done since losing to Biden other than catch charges for rape, treason & obstruction to beat him out this time. The only variable is the level of racism, ignorance, and stupidity of American people which Trump represents as their champion.

Getting convicted of a crime is a lot harder than getting elected. Remember the rape conviction was a civil suit in New York and it's still on appeal. I'm just trying to picture jury selection in Georgia. How do you find 12 people who don't have an opinion one way or another?

The nation is too divided to handle another Trump run.

Due to already being convicted of rape that "should" eliminate anyone from being able to run. If he were to win the appeal putting the trial back on. Then I could see the case for him being able to run. But that would be Democracy which he and his base tried to overthrow.

He attempted a coup live on television. There should already be grounds for withholding him from being able to run until he is able to clear himself from treason. But this just me saying what should be due to the nature of treason and the position he is looking to obtain. And surprised and alarmed that this isn't already the case.

And again just through the game of politics alone even if you weren't someone morally inclined. The fact that it isn't hammered home that the biggest threat in Trump has been convicted of rape to the American public is a grave misstep. His base isn't going to care. But you want to ensure anyone who for some reason is on the fence is clearly aware.

It was a civil suit, not a criminal case. The Constitution is clear about what offenses bar someone from holding the presidency. Don't hold your breath expecting a Georgia jury to come back with a conviction for insurrection.

The problem is that the Dems have made an 8 year campaign trying to convince American voters that Trump is a villain while ignoring that a lot of Americans agree with what he says. Every time the argument boils down to "Trump voters are idiots who don't know what's good for them" the Dems lose.

Ramaswamy is running for a Trump VP nod.
His arrogance and inexperience makes him a perfect match.

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martin wrote:Single women/mothers are staying single because the single mom calculus is that they get more federal money to not have a man in their home and that relates to the failure of our education of children something something?

Did I get that right?

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martin wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:Ok, so Vivek wants to end aid to Ukraine. Forget him then.

Not for nothing but this is the pervasive position of the Republicans party as a whole.

Because they know if they don’t take that position, their dark money SuperPAC lifeline ends.

I don't believe I am actually saying this: but what are the military-industrial complex's lobbyists planning to do about this?

ESOMKnicks wrote:

martin wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:Ok, so Vivek wants to end aid to Ukraine. Forget him then.

Not for nothing but this is the pervasive position of the Republicans party as a whole.

Because they know if they don’t take that position, their dark money SuperPAC lifeline ends.

I don't believe I am actually saying this: but what are the military-industrial complex's lobbyists planning to do about this?

It's a good point. But right now one would guess the money-takers that have been suckling at the teet of the dwindling NRA machine are now just waffling between the military-industrial complex and the oil disruption money coming out of the middle east and Russia.

It's a tough life that will catch up to them soon. Hopefully.