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[Game Thread 1/16/23] Knicks vs Raptors 3PM
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VDesai
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1/16/2023  5:49 PM
Knicks unable to boxout again
AUTOADVERT
VDesai
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1/16/2023  5:50 PM
Robinson missed a dunk after brunson missed a layup
VDesai
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1/16/2023  5:50 PM
Julius with a huge steal and potential and 1
VDesai
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1/16/2023  5:51 PM
Cant make FTs but 2nd chance
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1/16/2023  5:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/16/2023  5:52 PM
Brunson couldnt hit it
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1/16/2023  5:53 PM
FUCK!!!
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VDesai
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1/16/2023  5:54 PM
Was a good look. I agree with the 3. Double OT they would have been dead
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1/16/2023  5:55 PM
Right player, right shot, wrong outcome
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1/16/2023  5:55 PM
I'd trade obi for achuiwa
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1/16/2023  5:57 PM
I'd never guess the Raps where blowing it up just based off our games.
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1/16/2023  5:57 PM
Sums up the season. Every time they turn the corner they give it away.

Lack of execution, selfish play in the fourth, Randle forcing everything, holding the ball, no movement and guys standing around. Julius was unhinged out there. For as good as he has been there is that streak that just makes you nervous.

Thibs needs to find a way to stop playing guys 40 minutes.

It is possible to get Mitch an easy basket occasionally, get grimes a few shots. Can’t keep running the two man with Brunson and Randle all night.

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1/16/2023  5:57 PM
Brunson not his typical self down the stretch. Was tired for sure. Knicks need a better strategy for back to backs
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1/16/2023  6:14 PM
MS wrote:Sums up the season. Every time they turn the corner they give it away.

Lack of execution, selfish play in the fourth, Randle forcing everything, holding the ball, no movement and guys standing around. Julius was unhinged out there. For as good as he has been there is that streak that just makes you nervous.

Thibs needs to find a way to stop playing guys 40 minutes.

It is possible to get Mitch an easy basket occasionally, get grimes a few shots. Can’t keep running the two man with Brunson and Randle all night.

You’re not allowed to say anything negative about Thibs mins distribution. It’s never thibs fault his players are tired 🤷‍♂️

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1/16/2023  6:38 PM
VDesai wrote:Brunson not his typical self down the stretch. Was tired for sure. Knicks need a better strategy for back to backs

Another good bench spark.

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blkexec wrote:
MS wrote:Sums up the season. Every time they turn the corner they give it away.

Lack of execution, selfish play in the fourth, Randle forcing everything, holding the ball, no movement and guys standing around. Julius was unhinged out there. For as good as he has been there is that streak that just makes you nervous.

Thibs needs to find a way to stop playing guys 40 minutes.

It is possible to get Mitch an easy basket occasionally, get grimes a few shots. Can’t keep running the two man with Brunson and Randle all night.

You’re not allowed to say anything negative about Thibs mins distribution. It’s never thibs fault his players are tired 🤷‍♂️

Him doing that got the Knicks where they are record wise. Give a viable alternative instead of just complaining and the incessant too many minutes chatter turns into an actually viable discussion. I said it before first his rotation was too big and people complained to shorten it. He shortens it, they win, now people are worried about too many minutes to the top guys.

Give a viable alternative for this coach to play his top players less minutes and still get similar production from the team as a whole.

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1/16/2023  7:30 PM

1 2 3 4 T
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Raptors 20-24 29 27 25 29 123
Knicks 25-20 25 34 28 23 121

STARTERS MINS PTS FG 3PT FT OFF DEF REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/-
-------------------- ---- ---- ----- ----- ----- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
G. Trent Jr. G 41 18 6-14 4-8 2-3 0 5 5 2 0 1 1 2 4
F. VanVleet G 44 33 10-23 5-13 8-8 1 4 5 8 1 2 2 5 3
S. Barnes F 44 26 8-16 1-2 9-13 6 1 7 4 3 1 2 3 8
O. Anunoby F 39 10 3-10 2-7 2-2 2 3 5 3 1 3 2 5 -1
P. Siakam C 46 20 7-19 0-7 6-7 2 6 8 9 1 0 3 6 9

BENCH MINS PTS FG 3PT FT OFF DEF REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/-
-------------------- ---- ---- ----- ----- ----- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
P. Achiuwa 20 8 2-6 0-2 4-4 1 7 8 0 0 0 0 3 -8
C. Boucher 17 8 2-5 1-3 3-4 2 1 3 1 0 1 2 0 -8
J. Hernangomez 7 0 0-2 0-1 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 5
M. Flynn 2 0 0-1 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -2
J. Dowtin Jr. DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
C. Koloko DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
K. Birch DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
J. Wieskamp DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
T. Young DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -

STARTERS MINS PTS FG 3PT FT OFF DEF REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/-
-------------------- ---- ---- ----- ----- ----- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
Q. Grimes G 39 10 3-5 2-4 2-2 3 4 7 2 0 1 1 3 3
J. Brunson G 43 26 11-29 2-6 2-4 4 3 7 2 4 0 1 5 2
J. Randle F 42 21 7-20 1-6 6-9 3 12 15 8 3 1 0 3 1
R. Barrett F 49 32 10-23 2-9 10-11 1 6 7 2 3 0 0 4 -5
M. Robinson C 36 11 5-8 0-0 1-2 5 3 8 2 1 0 1 2 -7

BENCH MINS PTS FG 3PT FT OFF DEF REB AST TO STL BLK PF +/-
-------------------- ---- ---- ----- ----- ----- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
I. Quickley 21 14 3-7 1-4 7-7 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 5 5
I. Hartenstein 15 2 1-1 0-0 0-0 2 3 5 1 0 0 1 2 2
O. Toppin 11 5 2-4 1-1 0-0 0 2 2 0 0 1 0 2 -3
M. McBride 6 0 0-2 0-1 0-0 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 -8
J. Sims DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
C. Reddish DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
D. Rose DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
E. Fournier DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
S. Mykhailiuk DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -
R. Arcidiacono DNP - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
ToddTT
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1/16/2023  7:32 PM
Some minutes for Sims would be nice. A few more for Toppin and McBride too.

Tough loss, but oh my that dunk by RJ in the final seconds.

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
ToddTT
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1/16/2023  7:33 PM
Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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1/16/2023  7:37 PM
ToddTT wrote:

There's one bright side RJ did bounce back from a horrific start to the game. Let's hope he keeps up it up.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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1/16/2023  7:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/16/2023  7:45 PM
joec32033 wrote:
blkexec wrote:
MS wrote:Sums up the season. Every time they turn the corner they give it away.

Lack of execution, selfish play in the fourth, Randle forcing everything, holding the ball, no movement and guys standing around. Julius was unhinged out there. For as good as he has been there is that streak that just makes you nervous.

Thibs needs to find a way to stop playing guys 40 minutes.

It is possible to get Mitch an easy basket occasionally, get grimes a few shots. Can’t keep running the two man with Brunson and Randle all night.

You’re not allowed to say anything negative about Thibs mins distribution. It’s never thibs fault his players are tired 🤷‍♂️

Him doing that got the Knicks where they are record wise. Give a viable alternative instead of just complaining and the incessant too many minutes chatter turns into an actually viable discussion. I said it before first his rotation was too big and people complained to shorten it. He shortens it, they win, now people are worried about too many minutes to the top guys.

Give a viable alternative for this coach to play his top players less minutes and still get similar production from the team as a whole.

If you dont believe in a viable alternative, you have written off a lot of players. We have two PGs sitting, a few minutes in the first half to spell Brunson, would be worth trying again. Give Obi more minutes. Looks like he has his legs back. Run more offense through him. Get him some easy buckets at the rim early. Get his confidence going, then find him behind the arc.

What I dont understand is the notion that the rotation should stay fixed, even after it looks like its running into problems.

[Game Thread 1/16/23] Knicks vs Raptors 3PM

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