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GustavBahler
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1/6/2023  9:40 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
nyvector16 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I dont miss Melo's "3 to the head" gesture.

He took that from Rasheed Wallace when he was briefly with the team, but it got annoying since he did it every single time for years afterwards.

Melo does a lot for kids, with his philanthropy. But that wasnt a good example for the young fans.

Any evidence that any kids were harmed by the gesture ?

Harm shouldnt be the threshold. It being a bad example is good enough of a reason not to do it.

What's the bad example ?

Gun violence

I come on. The gesture is not a gun to the head. It's a three representing a three point shot in basketball. I think kids are smarter then adults sometimes. Especially when adults insist on thinking their making a deeper observation.

That gesture was around long before Melo. If he naively coopted it, it was a bad idea.

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1/6/2023  9:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2023  9:40 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Not seeing the big deal with Barnes. Why is he untouchable? Gets lost defensively and doesn’t seem to provide any scoring. His value is sort of just being a big facilitator/ table setter. Sochan from San Antonio is a similar profile. Don’t get me wrong I think both are solid prospects but Barnes is billed a franchise player.

Barnes gets hyped because Masia is genius who turns crap into pudding just by looking at I think Barnes got the benefit of the doubt because of the way he exceeded expectations his rookie season. He was dubbed a project and came in guns blazing. But the jumpshot hasn't taken the leap many where expecting.

Did he exceed expectations? He was the 4th pick in the draft and did his damage on a good team as a 6th man. It’s a different world when you start and have starter's expectations. To me he’s been offensively challenged each time we have played them. He can be a modern day Lamar Odom but he was best as a 6th man.

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1/6/2023  9:41 PM
If deuce can be a nice catch and shoot guy, he’s a good rotation player for a long time.
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1/6/2023  9:42 PM
Who said EF can't play D?
'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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1/6/2023  9:43 PM
No matter who wins tonight, I can rest easy no one dropped a career high on us
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1/6/2023  9:43 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
nyvector16 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I dont miss Melo's "3 to the head" gesture.

He took that from Rasheed Wallace when he was briefly with the team, but it got annoying since he did it every single time for years afterwards.

Melo does a lot for kids, with his philanthropy. But that wasnt a good example for the young fans.

Any evidence that any kids were harmed by the gesture ?

Harm shouldnt be the threshold. It being a bad example is good enough of a reason not to do it.

What's the bad example ?

Gun violence

I come on. The gesture is not a gun to the head. It's a three representing a three point shot in basketball. I think kids are smarter then adults sometimes. Especially when adults insist on thinking their making a deeper observation.

That gesture was around long before Melo. If he naively coopted it, it was a bad idea.

Let it go. You are taking the gesture to represent a gun to the head as if what a suicide gesture ? That's your interpretation. I don't think anyone else saw it like that. Don't think any kids saw it like that.

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1/6/2023  9:44 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
nyvector16 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I dont miss Melo's "3 to the head" gesture.

He took that from Rasheed Wallace when he was briefly with the team, but it got annoying since he did it every single time for years afterwards.

Melo does a lot for kids, with his philanthropy. But that wasnt a good example for the young fans.

Any evidence that any kids were harmed by the gesture ?

Harm shouldnt be the threshold. It being a bad example is good enough of a reason not to do it.

What's the bad example ?

Gun violence

I come on. The gesture is not a gun to the head. It's a three representing a three point shot in basketball. I think kids are smarter then adults sometimes. Especially when adults insist on thinking their making a deeper observation.

That gesture was around long before Melo. If he naively coopted it, it was a bad idea.

Let it go. You are taking the gesture to represent a gun to the head as if what a suicide gesture ? That's your interpretation. I don't think anyone else saw it like that. Don't think any kids saw it like that.

Not suicide, killing someone. No wonder you dont get it.

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1/6/2023  9:46 PM
Toronto has the size but it's like they have a bunch of Cam Reddishes
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1/6/2023  9:47 PM
Knixkik wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Not seeing the big deal with Barnes. Why is he untouchable? Gets lost defensively and doesn’t seem to provide any scoring. His value is sort of just being a big facilitator/ table setter. Sochan from San Antonio is a similar profile. Don’t get me wrong I think both are solid prospects but Barnes is billed a franchise player.

Barnes gets hyped because Masia is genius who turns crap into pudding just by looking at I think Barnes got the benefit of the doubt because of the way he exceeded expectations his rookie season. He was dubbed a project and came in guns blazing. But the jumpshot hasn't taken the leap many where expecting.

Did he exceed expectations? He was the 4th pick in the draft and did his damage on a good team as a 6th man. It’s a different world when you start and have starter's expectations. To me he’s been offensively challenged each time we have played them. He can be a modern day Lamar Odom but he was best as a 6th man.


I think he did. A lot of draft experts didn't have going 4 or impacting the game the way he did. Personally, I thought he would have a successful rookie year if he averages 9 a game. But unless you're Zion your not gonna be able to beast on a consistent basis without a J.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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1/6/2023  9:47 PM
Randle gets no calls. Has to stop the constant complaining. But then again Luka.....
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1/6/2023  9:50 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
nyvector16 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I dont miss Melo's "3 to the head" gesture.

He took that from Rasheed Wallace when he was briefly with the team, but it got annoying since he did it every single time for years afterwards.

Melo does a lot for kids, with his philanthropy. But that wasnt a good example for the young fans.

Any evidence that any kids were harmed by the gesture ?

Harm shouldnt be the threshold. It being a bad example is good enough of a reason not to do it.

What's the bad example ?

Gun violence

I come on. The gesture is not a gun to the head. It's a three representing a three point shot in basketball. I think kids are smarter then adults sometimes. Especially when adults insist on thinking their making a deeper observation.

That gesture was around long before Melo. If he naively coopted it, it was a bad idea.

Let it go. You are taking the gesture to represent a gun to the head as if what a suicide gesture ? That's your interpretation. I don't think anyone else saw it like that. Don't think any kids saw it like that.

Not suicide, killing someone. No wonder you dont get it.

Killing someone or yourself is not the gesture. You can keep going at it but your interpretation is not shared by many. That's why I asked did kids get influenced by that gesture thinking about guns ? No because it's three fingers after a three point shot. And you hold your theoretically harmful gesture and hold against Melo for years. Give it up. Kids are smarter then adults sometimes

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1/6/2023  9:53 PM
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GustavBahler
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1/6/2023  9:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2023  9:54 PM
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
nyvector16 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I dont miss Melo's "3 to the head" gesture.

He took that from Rasheed Wallace when he was briefly with the team, but it got annoying since he did it every single time for years afterwards.

Melo does a lot for kids, with his philanthropy. But that wasnt a good example for the young fans.

Any evidence that any kids were harmed by the gesture ?

Harm shouldnt be the threshold. It being a bad example is good enough of a reason not to do it.

What's the bad example ?

Gun violence

I come on. The gesture is not a gun to the head. It's a three representing a three point shot in basketball. I think kids are smarter then adults sometimes. Especially when adults insist on thinking their making a deeper observation.

That gesture was around long before Melo. If he naively coopted it, it was a bad idea.

Let it go. You are taking the gesture to represent a gun to the head as if what a suicide gesture ? That's your interpretation. I don't think anyone else saw it like that. Don't think any kids saw it like that.

Not suicide, killing someone. No wonder you dont get it.

Killing someone or yourself is not the gesture. You can keep going at it but your interpretation is not shared by many. That's why I asked did kids get influenced by that gesture thinking about guns ? No because it's three fingers after a three point shot. And you hold your theoretically harmful gesture and hold against Melo for years. Give it up. Kids are smarter then adults sometimes

You're making it sound like I made this up. There have been articles, I believe an ESPN story about it. You can disagree, but the number one cause of children's death now is guns. Not hard to find another celebration.

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1/6/2023  9:55 PM
Two really bad fouls by MR.
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Alpha1971
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1/6/2023  9:58 PM
The Knicks play so bad trying to hold the ball all 24 seconds. That only helps the defense. They have to attack.
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1/6/2023  10:00 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
nyvector16 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I dont miss Melo's "3 to the head" gesture.

He took that from Rasheed Wallace when he was briefly with the team, but it got annoying since he did it every single time for years afterwards.

Melo does a lot for kids, with his philanthropy. But that wasnt a good example for the young fans.

Any evidence that any kids were harmed by the gesture ?

Harm shouldnt be the threshold. It being a bad example is good enough of a reason not to do it.

What's the bad example ?

Gun violence

I come on. The gesture is not a gun to the head. It's a three representing a three point shot in basketball. I think kids are smarter then adults sometimes. Especially when adults insist on thinking their making a deeper observation.

That gesture was around long before Melo. If he naively coopted it, it was a bad idea.

Let it go. You are taking the gesture to represent a gun to the head as if what a suicide gesture ? That's your interpretation. I don't think anyone else saw it like that. Don't think any kids saw it like that.

Not suicide, killing someone. No wonder you dont get it.

Killing someone or yourself is not the gesture. You can keep going at it but your interpretation is not shared by many. That's why I asked did kids get influenced by that gesture thinking about guns ? No because it's three fingers after a three point shot. And you hold your theoretically harmful gesture and hold against Melo for years. Give it up. Kids are smarter then adults sometimes

You're making it sound like I made this up. There have been articles, I believe an ESPN story about it. You can disagree, but the number one cause of children's death now is guns. Not hard to find another celebration.

Maybe you didn't make it up. But it was foolish then and foolish now. Why you keep going at it ? Talk about the game

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1/6/2023  10:00 PM
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1/6/2023  10:00 PM
That's my PG!
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1/6/2023  10:04 PM
Knicks are one of the best defensive teams in the league for 46 mins and can’t defense a sole for 2 mins.
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1/6/2023  10:05 PM
What's Toronto's coach complaining about? It was about as obvious a foul as there could be.
[Game Thread 1/6/23] Knicks at Raptors 7:30PM

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