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[Game Thread 12/20/22] Knicks vs Warriors 7:30PM TNT
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12/20/2022  10:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/20/2022  10:01 PM
ToddTT wrote:Are Ernie and crew not going to discuss the game that was played and just talk about Jokic?

When we have a better center coming off the bench?

Ernie is nothing but a puppet of the corporate media. They hate us cuz they ain't us.

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12/20/2022  10:01 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Man, I look at all the talent Warriors hit on the draft and I can see all this culture and development the media keeps harping on I mean, look at us with our two measly second-rounders at the center spot compared to their talented lottery pick. Moody was clearly the better pick over Grimes

Just 2? It’s 3!

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12/20/2022  10:05 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Man, I look at all the talent Warriors hit on the draft and I can see all this culture and development the media keeps harping on I mean, look at us with our two measly second-rounders at the center spot compared to their talented lottery pick. Moody was clearly the better pick over Grimes

Just 2? It’s 3!

And 2 second round point guards

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ToddTT
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12/20/2022  10:07 PM
Chandler wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Man, I look at all the talent Warriors hit on the draft and I can see all this culture and development the media keeps harping on I mean, look at us with our two measly second-rounders at the center spot compared to their talented lottery pick. Moody was clearly the better pick over Grimes

Just 2? It’s 3!

And 2 second round point guards

JB at 33. Which seems like a lucky number for us.

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12/20/2022  10:07 PM
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franco12 wrote:Golden State is not the Golden State of the past couple years.

They’re getting old. Curry is 34. Klay and Green are 32. No depth. Even Reggie Miller on the broadcast said they have no depth. Grizzlies in the West are better and so are nuggets and suns

Their lineup was good enough to be a top team last year and win a title.

It's kind of strange how they've struggled. Curry had been playing better than last season prior to his injury. You'd have expected Klay to be even better as he's farther since his injury - but he took it easy this summer. You'd expect Poole/Wiggins to emerge - but they've done less this year... plus you'd expect Kuminga and Wiseman to be ready for more. Could the Poole/Draymond incident have damaged the team? Complacency after winning a title and guys getting big contracts? Too much reliance on youth development? Rotations too long?

They lost Gary Payton II and his aggressive D off the bench. He didn't play all that much last year - but in general something has been missing.

You also see a little bit of the same problems the Knicks had before Thibs shortened the rotation - too many players, guys not feeling comfortable with their roles.

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12/20/2022  10:08 PM
Briggs is having the last laugh! His second guy Ty Jerome going off for a little bit Almost enough make me forget about how much he hyped Wiseman
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12/20/2022  10:14 PM
Hartenstein & Sims are a dynamic frontcourt pair when they are tandem in a lineup.
It look like Hart is a fan of Jokic LOL
Tonight, the Knicks beat the championship Warriors 132-94, holding GS Warriors under a 100 pts.
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12/20/2022  10:14 PM
Plus-minus: every Knicks player was a plus, every GS player a minus except one who stood at zero.
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12/20/2022  10:16 PM
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12/20/2022  10:16 PM
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12/20/2022  10:17 PM
Haha

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12/20/2022  10:20 PM
martin wrote:Haha

Anyone else old enough to remember when Red would bring out the cigar. Talk about Boss w/o trash talk

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12/20/2022  10:27 PM
Woo hoo! Last time we beat the Warriors at the Garden nearly 10 years ago.

I did not see the game - checked the progress on my phone and heard the last quarter (celebration) on the radio and listening to post game now. Great all round of course but I get the feeling Quickley is the the Y if not X factor. His lighting it up puts us closer to over the top. Not comparing them necessarily but could have the impact of a Vinnie "Microwave" Johnson if he finds some consistency.

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12/20/2022  10:31 PM
technomaster wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
franco12 wrote:Golden State is not the Golden State of the past couple years.

They’re getting old. Curry is 34. Klay and Green are 32. No depth. Even Reggie Miller on the broadcast said they have no depth. Grizzlies in the West are better and so are nuggets and suns

Their lineup was good enough to be a top team last year and win a title.

It's kind of strange how they've struggled. Curry had been playing better than last season prior to his injury. You'd have expected Klay to be even better as he's farther since his injury - but he took it easy this summer. You'd expect Poole/Wiggins to emerge - but they've done less this year... plus you'd expect Kuminga and Wiseman to be ready for more. Could the Poole/Draymond incident have damaged the team? Complacency after winning a title and guys getting big contracts? Too much reliance on youth development? Rotations too long?

They lost Gary Payton II and his aggressive D off the bench. He didn't play all that much last year - but in general something has been missing.

You also see a little bit of the same problems the Knicks had before Thibs shortened the rotation - too many players, guys not feeling comfortable with their roles.

Yep. We just beat the world champs.

Some might want to point out that Curry was sitting. But so was Obi. Seventh and eighth picks respectively, so virtually equal.

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12/20/2022  10:57 PM
I like us in that 6 spot.
Bring back dee-fense
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12/20/2022  11:00 PM
ToddTT wrote:Are Ernie and crew not going to discuss the game that was played and just talk about Jokic?

When we have a better center coming off the bench?

They only talk about the knicks when there's drama. Right now we are winning, so theres nothing to clown anymore. The media and fans aren't used to this. It's been since 2012 since we came close to a streak like this.

And Jokic is the real deal. Now the Warriors center is a different case. 2nd overall pick and he looks like the 2nd to last pick behind Mitch and Sims.

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12/20/2022  11:04 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Man, I look at all the talent Warriors hit on the draft and I can see all this culture and development the media keeps harping on I mean, look at us with our two measly second-rounders at the center spot compared to their talented lottery pick. Moody was clearly the better pick over Grimes

Team chemistry trumps individual talent all day. Grimes is more of a system player you plug into any lineup. I don't think the warrior have system players, but solid individual athletes and skilled players. Steve Kerr sure looks average these days, when you don't have your top guy.

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12/20/2022  11:21 PM
Can I just say, I love how Grimes is evolving and learning at the same time. He makes bone head fouls, but always shot ready. Thats exactly what this team needs from him. Just imagine how Grimes will look next season. The sky is the limit for him.

Can't say enough about JB. Definetly All Star worthy. Personally I thought we over pay, I'll be honest. Now I'm positive we under paid for JB and Mitch. Solid win!

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12/20/2022  11:41 PM
I'm. Shocked. Really thought Draymond would pull this one out without several of his usual future HOF's by his side.

8 in row! Best streak in 30 years.
We beat this team at every position.
Great overall team win.
Six players in double figures.

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12/21/2022  12:14 AM
It's pretty crazy how even with Curry out the Warriors are starting Poole, Klay, Draymond, and Looney. That team is deep. Knicks played a veteran game wearing the Warriors down over each quarter.

The broadcast team was terrible. What should have been the story is the rise of the Knicks in the East, instead it was innane jokes and lusting for Steph to come back.

[Game Thread 12/20/22] Knicks vs Warriors 7:30PM TNT

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