foosballnick wrote:

Kemet wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:Short of Kawhi or Luka there is no superstar I would like to trade for right now. The stars are across the East River. I like the team that we have and would like it to develop experience and cohesiveness as presently constituted. If Randle maintains his high level of play, RJ develops a couple of go to moves, and no one slacks off or is injured, and with utmost team effort, we could be a contender.

The only thing exciting bout the Knicks 2021-22 season will be the creative 2nd unit lineup .. D.Rose, Quickley, Obi, and Noel or MitchRob or Taj.

For the past two decade the Knicks been looking for a young creative starter PG they could sign for 6 years .. Ben Simmons !!!

Ben Simmons cannot be just signed - he is currently under contract for the upcoming 4 seasons at between $33M - $40M per season, so he could only be acquired via trade at this point. Even if the Knicks were willing to put together a trade package to take on Simmons and have him eat up over 30% of their cap space - it is very unlikely the Sixers would trade him to a division rival.

FYI - max contract is 5 years.

The prospects of the Knicks 2nd unit is exciting - but will be projected to be the same as much of last year. Not sure how any Knicks fan would not be excited about seeing the changes made with the starters. Certainly the impact of Kemba vs. Payton and the return of Mitch in with a PNR guy at the point - or the difference that EF brings vs. Bullock (i.e. if the impacts on offense will outweigh the loss of Bullock on D).

Which begs the question. Are you even a Knicks fan or just here to troll?

Bullocks performance last season prove to be a KEEPER in to many categories during the regular-season and postseason games!
The Building move was .... to resign Bullocks 2-Way hustle performance, then sign FA Evan Fournier to have both hustle & scorer holding down the 48 minute in the SF rotation. this type of move would've added a new lucrative veteran scorer (EF) to the rotation. Will Knox replace Bullocks next season at SF?
Bullocks consistent performance will be missed Big-Time in Thibs rotation.

At the start of the offseason, Kemba Walker knees has been turned down by two NBA teams whom both teams are in search of a starter PG this offseason. Are Kemba's knees able to play back to back games next season?
Why not sign PG Shroeder too, for insurance?
I guess rookie PG-Deuce McBribe will be receiving plenty of playing time next season.

foosballnick wrote:

Kemet wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Kemet wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:Short of Kawhi or Luka there is no superstar I would like to trade for right now. The stars are across the East River. I like the team that we have and would like it to develop experience and cohesiveness as presently constituted. If Randle maintains his high level of play, RJ develops a couple of go to moves, and no one slacks off or is injured, and with utmost team effort, we could be a contender.

The only thing exciting bout the Knicks 2021-22 season will be the creative 2nd unit lineup .. D.Rose, Quickley, Obi, and Noel or MitchRob or Taj.

For the past two decade the Knicks been looking for a young creative starter PG they could sign for 6 years .. Ben Simmons !!!

Ben Simmons cannot be just signed - he is currently under contract for the upcoming 4 seasons at between $33M - $40M per season, so he could only be acquired via trade at this point. Even if the Knicks were willing to put together a trade package to take on Simmons and have him eat up over 30% of their cap space - it is very unlikely the Sixers would trade him to a division rival.

FYI - max contract is 5 years.

The prospects of the Knicks 2nd unit is exciting - but will be projected to be the same as much of last year. Not sure how any Knicks fan would not be excited about seeing the changes made with the starters. Certainly the impact of Kemba vs. Payton and the return of Mitch in with a PNR guy at the point - or the difference that EF brings vs. Bullock (i.e. if the impacts on offense will outweigh the loss of Bullock on D).

Which begs the question. Are you even a Knicks fan or just here to troll?

Bullocks performance last season prove to be a KEEPER in to many categories during the regular-season and postseason games!
The Building move was .... to resign Bullocks 2-Way hustle performance, then sign FA Evan Fournier to have both hustle & scorer holding down the 48 minute in the SF rotation. this type of move would've added a new lucrative veteran scorer (EF) to the rotation. Will Knox replace Bullocks next season at SF?
Bullocks consistent performance will be missed Big-Time in Thibs rotation.

At the start of the offseason, Kemba Walker knees has been turned down by two NBA teams whom both teams are in search of a starter PG this offseason. Are Kemba's knees able to play back to back games next season?
Why not sign PG Shroeder too, for insurance?
I guess rookie PG-Deuce McBribe will be receiving plenty of playing time next season.

I know you love Bullock but I see him as more limited than the guy they chose to re-sign (Burks) who can play 3 positions. Unless Knox improves dramatically he will not see much time. Rotation at the 3 will be Evan, Burks and RJ. All 3 can play both the 2 and 3.

Kemba's knees are a risk and we may likely see IQ, Burks and Deuce at the point to spell him from time to time. Shroeder was likely not signing here to be the 3rd PG behind Kemba and Rose.

kemba's knees were a risk so well worth taking at that price. and smart to sign drose and draft deuce. plus vildoza's coming back to ny today and report is his foot healed with rest.

foosballnick wrote:

Kemet wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Kemet wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:Short of Kawhi or Luka there is no superstar I would like to trade for right now. The stars are across the East River. I like the team that we have and would like it to develop experience and cohesiveness as presently constituted. If Randle maintains his high level of play, RJ develops a couple of go to moves, and no one slacks off or is injured, and with utmost team effort, we could be a contender.

The only thing exciting bout the Knicks 2021-22 season will be the creative 2nd unit lineup .. D.Rose, Quickley, Obi, and Noel or MitchRob or Taj.

For the past two decade the Knicks been looking for a young creative starter PG they could sign for 6 years .. Ben Simmons !!!

Ben Simmons cannot be just signed - he is currently under contract for the upcoming 4 seasons at between $33M - $40M per season, so he could only be acquired via trade at this point. Even if the Knicks were willing to put together a trade package to take on Simmons and have him eat up over 30% of their cap space - it is very unlikely the Sixers would trade him to a division rival.

FYI - max contract is 5 years.

The prospects of the Knicks 2nd unit is exciting - but will be projected to be the same as much of last year. Not sure how any Knicks fan would not be excited about seeing the changes made with the starters. Certainly the impact of Kemba vs. Payton and the return of Mitch in with a PNR guy at the point - or the difference that EF brings vs. Bullock (i.e. if the impacts on offense will outweigh the loss of Bullock on D).

Which begs the question. Are you even a Knicks fan or just here to troll?

Bullocks performance last season prove to be a KEEPER in to many categories during the regular-season and postseason games!
The Building move was .... to resign Bullocks 2-Way hustle performance, then sign FA Evan Fournier to have both hustle & scorer holding down the 48 minute in the SF rotation. this type of move would've added a new lucrative veteran scorer (EF) to the rotation. Will Knox replace Bullocks next season at SF?
Bullocks consistent performance will be missed Big-Time in Thibs rotation.

At the start of the offseason, Kemba Walker knees has been turned down by two NBA teams whom both teams are in search of a starter PG this offseason. Are Kemba's knees able to play back to back games next season?
Why not sign PG Shroeder too, for insurance?
I guess rookie PG-Deuce McBribe will be receiving plenty of playing time next season.

I know you love Bullock but I see him as more limited than the guy they chose to re-sign (Burks) who can play 3 positions. Unless Knox improves dramatically he will not see much time. Rotation at the 3 will be Evan, Burks and RJ. All 3 can play both the 2 and 3.

Kemba's knees are a risk and we may likely see IQ, Burks and Deuce at the point to spell him from time to time. Shroeder was likely not signing here to be the 3rd PG behind Kemba and Rose.

knicks1248 wrote:

Could Karl-Anthony Towns be Knicks' disgruntled star after Timberwolves' surprise head of basketball ops firing?
Scott Thompson
Thu, September 23, 2021, 8:45 AM

Everything is definitely not alright in Minnesota.

The Timberwolves surprisingly fired their head of basketball operations, Gersson Rosas, which caused their star center, Karl-Anthony Towns, to tweet this:

Self-explanatory, right? Do we have a disgruntled star on our hands right before the start of the season?

If that is the case, the Knicks will certainly be watching. On The Putback with SNY's Ian Begley earlier this year, Begley noted that head coach Tom Thibodeau would welcome a reunion as the head coach "just wants to win."

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Towns is one of the most dynamic centers in the league, with his scoring ability stretching all lengths of the floor. He also has the history with Thibs' system during their time with the Wolves together.

It's also worth noting that Towns is close with Knicks president Leon Rose and William "World Wide Wes" Wesley. His father, Karl Towns Sr., made it a point to go to Madison Square Garden with World Wide Wes for Rose's first game as team president.

Other connections point to assistant coach Kenny Payne, who Towns knows well from his one year at Kentucky. There's also Julius Randle, another Kentucky product, that is close with Towns.

And finally, a New Jersey native, Towns would be close to home.

But this is all speculative until Minnesota actually makes it known that the center of their franchise is up on the trade block. If that happens, it would send the franchise back to the rebuild stage yet again, something that would be hard to do.

But after what occurred on Wednesday, it may be hard to convince KAT that his T-Wolves will be competing in the Western Conference anytime soon.

That could mean good things for the Knicks if they see the fit.

Do we even have the trade pieces for him?

It would probably take 2 1st round picks, RJ, Kemba, noel, knox

That you constructed a response than that was more empty than what was written is a unique talent. To take somthing that offers nothing and turn it into something less than is remarkable.

Philc1 wrote:Pass on KAT. Way overrated player and we already have PFs

Agree 1000% - overhyped, slow with the ball and little defense. His post game would clog up the little room remaining for Randle anyway. Keep Mitch, 3 picks and RJ instead. As long as Randle is our focal point - our focus should be on acquiring better outside shooting, wings and only defenders.

I get the story:

Played for Thibs
Was Client of Leon
From NJ.

Reality he was immature but did not love Thibs intensity. Being a client is a friendship but Leon has Knicks to put first.
NJ sucks, why would he want back?
The would not covet RJ and Kat/Randle is redundant. Thibs likes and has done well with athletic offensive challanged centers. Noah did great under him. Kat is more a power forward, and you’ll need a rim protecter. Knicks are a bad trade partner for Minny if it came to that. Minny should move KAT buddy D’angelo for Simmons. Better fit. Give Edwards could be a star in a year. KAT and MInny have a nice young core and he should be happy Rosas gone and Taylor is phasing out. MInny is poised well for the future despite mistakes.

SergioNYK wrote:We do need another Star but KAT and Simmons aren't it.

The Formula of Sign one in free agency, grow one, Trade for one got a boast with Randle. Dude is all NBA and on a team friendly contract. Luck born from opportunity. KP door closed, another opened.
RJ at this moment and by all measures by others far more talented than Nalod, is not going to be an all NBA type “star” but at 21 it is too early to draw a ceiling but could very well be 3rd option on a contending team.
We tend to look at players who did succeed and get him even if past prime. I get it, the odds are rare to get Randle type players and then watch them grow. Lakers and pels blew it because they did not even get any value in return for letting him walk. RJ might be our future trade bait (with picks and players) as could every other player on this team. I’d reserve Randle as not only because he is our cultural cornerstone for now.
Lakers needed space for Lebron and Pels are languishing in their own issues until otherwise noted. BTW, Zion had foot surgery and they only telling people now? NBA has a vested stake in legal gambling and teams need to stop acting like this does not matter. It does.
The homer in me would cringe to even trade Randle for Zion straight up with all the drama that JUGGERNAUT brings. Hell of an athlete, just a baby. One that will get thicker and bigger with time. Not that he is lazy, he is genetically unchartered as a basketball player and all teens eventually fill out. Except Frank of course.
Wating for Tatum or another to be set free is a nice thought. These guys have to take the money when its in front of them or use the leverage to be traded. Super doubtful they go fully free agent. Logic says so, not my crystal ball.
Meanwhile Fornier will be 9 in a few weeks. I doubt he does a “Randle” for us. Good player though.

We are getting deep with opportunistic players who could develop for on court or as a trade asset. Nalod is finding joy and interest in this team as it is.
I don’t need no starphuch to get me thru a season.

Nalod wrote:

SergioNYK wrote:We do need another Star but KAT and Simmons aren't it.

The Formula of Sign one in free agency, grow one, Trade for one got a boast with Randle. Dude is all NBA and on a team friendly contract. Luck born from opportunity. KP door closed, another opened.
RJ at this moment and by all measures by others far more talented than Nalod, is not going to be an all NBA type “star” but at 21 it is too early to draw a ceiling but could very well be 3rd option on a contending team.
We tend to look at players who did succeed and get him even if past prime. I get it, the odds are rare to get Randle type players and then watch them grow. Lakers and pels blew it because they did not even get any value in return for letting him walk. RJ might be our future trade bait (with picks and players) as could every other player on this team. I’d reserve Randle as not only because he is our cultural cornerstone for now.
Lakers needed space for Lebron and Pels are languishing in their own issues until otherwise noted. BTW, Zion had foot surgery and they only telling people now? NBA has a vested stake in legal gambling and teams need to stop acting like this does not matter. It does.
The homer in me would cringe to even trade Randle for Zion straight up with all the drama that JUGGERNAUT brings. Hell of an athlete, just a baby. One that will get thicker and bigger with time. Not that he is lazy, he is genetically unchartered as a basketball player and all teens eventually fill out. Except Frank of course.
Wating for Tatum or another to be set free is a nice thought. These guys have to take the money when its in front of them or use the leverage to be traded. Super doubtful they go fully free agent. Logic says so, not my crystal ball.
Meanwhile Fornier will be 9 in a few weeks. I doubt he does a “Randle” for us. Good player though.

We are getting deep with opportunistic players who could develop for on court or as a trade asset. Nalod is finding joy and interest in this team as it is.
I don’t need no starphuch to get me thru a season.

KAT is an interesting player and a lot of folks on this board are intrigued by his outside/inside game. He is more talented than any player on our team. If it really made sense, you might change the team to build around him. I think the questions about KAT and Randle working well in the same front court are legitimate. That said, I don't see it that Randle/Towns couldn't co-exist together - its just that I would want to believe that they would both play team ball in sharing that front court and be accountable for the team plays. There are questions about KAT's willingness to do the other things not covered by money stats (box out, for example).

I'd like to see where Barrett is developmentally on 12/15 before we discuss including him in any trade. He has a chance to put up a much better season this year -- all my excuses for him from last year are now gone. With Fournier and Walker on the floor at the same time, there should be better floor spacing. If he starts making a few more of those drives in the paint, he should see a dramatic increase in his visible money stats. However, Fournier and Walker should have an impact on usage rate. Still only one ball on the court at a time. We will see who gets the most opportunities on offense.

So, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on a KAT frontcourt. I have questions about cost/benefit and whether he is a Thibs player. I don't recall last time with Tbibs ending well so, I am not sure his prior experience is a positive as this article suggests.

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