We can hopefully spend next season having just as much fun waiting for Frankie's next 13 point outburst.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Lots of defensive Frank haters

The vehemence of some posters is absurd. If you posit that he's still young, perhaps he'll do better elsewhere, maybe he'll improve -- even if you simply say you are pulling for him -- you elicit a multi-paragraph diatribe (or ten) about how he's a piece of s#!t who hasn't earned s#!t. Christ almighty did the Frenchman take a merde on your cornflakes? My theory is it's the perception that it was Phil who took the perceived dump on their breakfast, but since after all Frankie was his "triangle" pick and Phil is long gone, why not let out the pent up rage on Frank?

Just ridiculous.

I’m positing that Frank is 22 and other players, given the opportunity, have imporoved. That’s some audacity right there.

All I’m saying is he should be in the rotation next year and benching him in favor of Elf who sucked at everything and playing a 32 year old Derrick Rose 35+ minutes a night in the playoffs was a mistake

Real question. What was our record when Elf and Rose started? Was this not the best year we have had in a long time? Yet Frank had little to do with it and Elf and Rose did? But you are still mad? Would you rather Frank play 30 minutes and we still have a ****ty record?

What about Franks's numbers make you think he should be in the rotation. Don't you think the whole "I think he deserves more minutes" is getting old after four years of playing like a fringe rotation player?

You’re seriously trying to say Elfrid Payton is why we got the 4th seed? lol

I think RJ blossoming after getting away from toxic Fizz, Randle playing MVP caliber, IQ playing ROY caliber and the rest of the roster playing well had something to do with it

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Lots of defensive Frank haters

The vehemence of some posters is absurd. If you posit that he's still young, perhaps he'll do better elsewhere, maybe he'll improve -- even if you simply say you are pulling for him -- you elicit a multi-paragraph diatribe (or ten) about how he's a piece of s#!t who hasn't earned s#!t. Christ almighty did the Frenchman take a merde on your cornflakes? My theory is it's the perception that it was Phil who took the perceived dump on their breakfast, but since after all Frankie was his "triangle" pick and Phil is long gone, why not let out the pent up rage on Frank?

Just ridiculous.

I’m positing that Frank is 22 and other players, given the opportunity, have imporoved. That’s some audacity right there.

All I’m saying is he should be in the rotation next year and benching him in favor of Elf who sucked at everything and playing a 32 year old Derrick Rose 35+ minutes a night in the playoffs was a mistake

Real question. What was our record when Elf and Rose started? Was this not the best year we have had in a long time? Yet Frank had little to do with it and Elf and Rose did? But you are still mad? Would you rather Frank play 30 minutes and we still have a ****ty record?

What about Franks's numbers make you think he should be in the rotation. Don't you think the whole "I think he deserves more minutes" is getting old after four years of playing like a fringe rotation player?

Some knicks Fans don't care if we loss 82 games, as long as the guy we drafted plays heavy minutes.

How many times in the past have you heard "I don't care if we lose I JUST WANNA SEE THE YOUNG GUYS PLAY" They don't care if he goes 1-15 with 7 TO's they will talk about the one 3 pointer he made on 2 attempts in 30 minutes.

What about Elfrid Payton’s numbers made him such a no brainer to be a full time pg?

Teams win-loss record. Nobody stepped up behind him.
Elf was better starter than Frank. Thibs made his decision.
There were parts of the season Frank “COULD” have been given more rope but all in all thats not how it went.
Elf drew a lot of the attention yet the team finished real strong and Thibs went more to Rose. He played great and demonstrated despite his fragility the team was very good as long as he could play.
Frank could not give us those quality minutes and the organization was desperate to get that high seed and perhaps make a run. There was a small path to have made a Miami type run. we went for it. ATL was the “it team” and took Milwaukee to the limit.
I’d like to see frank back because I’d like to think he can still be a player. That don’t mean I’m predictions it our advocating as some savant a superior take on him and others. I see a player with many tools inching his way and yet something befalls him and he gets left behind.
Most likely scenario is he is not in our plans going forward. I can live with that because there will be others to follow and root for.
The FIBA Frank highlights last week he hung a finger roll in the lane?

We won in spite of Payton. The guy is horrible and got exposed in the playoffs. He’s Charlie Ward minus the hustle on defense

TheGame wrote:FIBA Frank v. USA at 8:00 am EST on Sunday. Must See TV!! Will Frank send the USA home again with no medal? I hope not because the USA needs to win, but this USA team looks suspect this year.

Frank isn't playing, he is rested with a minor injury (who'd have tought?)

France management probably marked this game as a defeat and they want to keep players fresh for the ones they can win.

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Lots of defensive Frank haters

The vehemence of some posters is absurd. If you posit that he's still young, perhaps he'll do better elsewhere, maybe he'll improve -- even if you simply say you are pulling for him -- you elicit a multi-paragraph diatribe (or ten) about how he's a piece of s#!t who hasn't earned s#!t. Christ almighty did the Frenchman take a merde on your cornflakes? My theory is it's the perception that it was Phil who took the perceived dump on their breakfast, but since after all Frankie was his "triangle" pick and Phil is long gone, why not let out the pent up rage on Frank?

Just ridiculous.

I’m positing that Frank is 22 and other players, given the opportunity, have imporoved. That’s some audacity right there.

All I’m saying is he should be in the rotation next year and benching him in favor of Elf who sucked at everything and playing a 32 year old Derrick Rose 35+ minutes a night in the playoffs was a mistake

Real question. What was our record when Elf and Rose started? Was this not the best year we have had in a long time? Yet Frank had little to do with it and Elf and Rose did? But you are still mad? Would you rather Frank play 30 minutes and we still have a ****ty record?

What about Franks's numbers make you think he should be in the rotation. Don't you think the whole "I think he deserves more minutes" is getting old after four years of playing like a fringe rotation player?

Some knicks Fans don't care if we loss 82 games, as long as the guy we drafted plays heavy minutes.

How many times in the past have you heard "I don't care if we lose I JUST WANNA SEE THE YOUNG GUYS PLAY" They don't care if he goes 1-15 with 7 TO's they will talk about the one 3 pointer he made on 2 attempts in 30 minutes.

What about Elfrid Payton’s numbers made him such a no brainer to be a full time pg?

Teams win-loss record. Nobody stepped up behind him.
Elf was better starter than Frank. Thibs made his decision.
There were parts of the season Frank “COULD” have been given more rope but all in all thats not how it went.
Elf drew a lot of the attention yet the team finished real strong and Thibs went more to Rose. He played great and demonstrated despite his fragility the team was very good as long as he could play.
Frank could not give us those quality minutes and the organization was desperate to get that high seed and perhaps make a run. There was a small path to have made a Miami type run. we went for it. ATL was the “it team” and took Milwaukee to the limit.
I’d like to see frank back because I’d like to think he can still be a player. That don’t mean I’m predictions it our advocating as some savant a superior take on him and others. I see a player with many tools inching his way and yet something befalls him and he gets left behind.
Most likely scenario is he is not in our plans going forward. I can live with that because there will be others to follow and root for.
The FIBA Frank highlights last week he hung a finger roll in the lane?

We won in spite of Payton. The guy is horrible and got exposed in the playoffs. He’s Charlie Ward minus the hustle on defense

No denying this. It was an issue even before the ATL series. His play declined yet the team did well. Rose was the factor, not ELF.

But the win loss stat

Philc1 wrote:

Juliano wrote:

TheGame wrote:FIBA Frank v. USA at 8:00 am EST on Sunday. Must See TV!! Will Frank send the USA home again with no medal? I hope not because the USA needs to win, but this USA team looks suspect this year.

Frank isn't playing, he is rested with a minor injury (who'd have tought?)

France management probably marked this game as a defeat and they want to keep players fresh for the ones they can win.

That's one of the reasons why I never gamble. :-)