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How do you guys feel if the big price of this trade deadline is Andre Drummond?
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GustavBahler
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3/29/2021  5:06 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
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technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

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3/29/2021  7:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/29/2021  7:27 AM
Not our problem for the next several months any more. We get to see how he does with the Lake Show and whether he would be worth signing in the offseason.

Kudos to the Knicks FO for not making any rushed dumbass moves at the deadline and beyond. We are not getting a high lottery pick this season, which is a bummer, but I am content we have not mortgaged or shackled our future either.

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3/29/2021  12:01 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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3/29/2021  12:40 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

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3/29/2021  1:13 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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3/29/2021  1:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/29/2021  1:28 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

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3/29/2021  1:42 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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3/29/2021  2:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/29/2021  2:19 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Seems ridiculous to believe that no one pointed out to Drummond that his career worst numbers was making him less tradeable. Less likely to sign another big contract. Dont think he gave two cents Sounds like he just jacked up shots. Sounds like mgmt gave up on him.

Believe Drummond can play more efficiently, if properly motivated. Especially on a LeBron led team.

Guess we'll see what happens.

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3/29/2021  2:24 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Seems ridiculous to believe that no one pointed out to Drummond that his career worst numbers was making him less tradeable. Less likely to sign another big contract. Dont think he gave two cents Sounds like he just jacked up shots. Sounds like mgmt gave up on him.

Believe Drummond can play more efficiently, if properly motivated. Especially on a LeBron led team.

Guess we'll see what happens.

Flanked by AD and Lebron this dude is gonna look good. I’d look good.

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3/29/2021  2:51 PM
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Seems ridiculous to believe that no one pointed out to Drummond that his career worst numbers was making him less tradeable. Less likely to sign another big contract. Dont think he gave two cents Sounds like he just jacked up shots. Sounds like mgmt gave up on him.

Believe Drummond can play more efficiently, if properly motivated. Especially on a LeBron led team.

Guess we'll see what happens.

Flanked by AD and Lebron this dude is gonna look good. I’d look good.

Not if he's as bad as you both are implying. They arent bringing him to LA to "look good". Which means they believe he has value. Just not enough for me to want to see him in a Knick uniform.

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3/29/2021  3:04 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Seems ridiculous to believe that no one pointed out to Drummond that his career worst numbers was making him less tradeable. Less likely to sign another big contract. Dont think he gave two cents Sounds like he just jacked up shots. Sounds like mgmt gave up on him.

Believe Drummond can play more efficiently, if properly motivated. Especially on a LeBron led team.

Guess we'll see what happens.

Flanked by AD and Lebron this dude is gonna look good. I’d look good.

Not if he's as bad as you both are implying. They arent bringing him to LA to "look good". Which means they believe he has value. Just not enough for me to want to see him in a Knick uniform.

Lebron did make Dwight Howard look good at point when nobody wanted him. It's not out the question that Andre becomes a role player whose play can impact winning. At the very least, he gives them 5 more fouls. The Lakers are only paying him $794,536, so it's a small gamble.

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3/29/2021  6:27 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Seems ridiculous to believe that no one pointed out to Drummond that his career worst numbers was making him less tradeable. Less likely to sign another big contract. Dont think he gave two cents Sounds like he just jacked up shots. Sounds like mgmt gave up on him.

Believe Drummond can play more efficiently, if properly motivated. Especially on a LeBron led team.

Guess we'll see what happens.

Flanked by AD and Lebron this dude is gonna look good. I’d look good.

Not if he's as bad as you both are implying. They arent bringing him to LA to "look good". Which means they believe he has value. Just not enough for me to want to see him in a Knick uniform.

I’m in the “In Thibs we trust”. If he wanted him then I’m good. I’m not into this “Perry’s guy so........”
Thibs gonna play who he gonna play. Might need a nudge to remind him about development and not lock the doghouse but seems to be all in synch with things. Last game Frank was glued to the pine. I’m fine with that. Thibs don’t answer my calls like he does some of you guys.

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3/29/2021  6:33 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Seems ridiculous to believe that no one pointed out to Drummond that his career worst numbers was making him less tradeable. Less likely to sign another big contract. Dont think he gave two cents Sounds like he just jacked up shots. Sounds like mgmt gave up on him.

Believe Drummond can play more efficiently, if properly motivated. Especially on a LeBron led team.

Guess we'll see what happens.

Flanked by AD and Lebron this dude is gonna look good. I’d look good.

Not if he's as bad as you both are implying. They arent bringing him to LA to "look good". Which means they believe he has value. Just not enough for me to want to see him in a Knick uniform.

“Look good”=“Play good”

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3/29/2021  8:23 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Seems ridiculous to believe that no one pointed out to Drummond that his career worst numbers was making him less tradeable. Less likely to sign another big contract. Dont think he gave two cents Sounds like he just jacked up shots. Sounds like mgmt gave up on him.

Believe Drummond can play more efficiently, if properly motivated. Especially on a LeBron led team.

Guess we'll see what happens.

Flanked by AD and Lebron this dude is gonna look good. I’d look good.

Not if he's as bad as you both are implying. They arent bringing him to LA to "look good". Which means they believe he has value. Just not enough for me to want to see him in a Knick uniform.

Lebron did make Dwight Howard look good at point when nobody wanted him. It's not out the question that Andre becomes a role player whose play can impact winning. At the very least, he gives them 5 more fouls. The Lakers are only paying him $794,536, so it's a small gamble.

Agree, not for what Drummond will want to play in NY.

LeBron got Howard to keep his eyes on the prize, so to speak. Howard was a former DPOY, and All Star, who had trouble staying focused. Like JR.

LeBron doesnt gives them skills they didnt already have. He motivates teammates to stay focused. Took a little time, but JR got focused, long enough to win a ring.

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3/30/2021  7:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/30/2021  7:28 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Seems ridiculous to believe that no one pointed out to Drummond that his career worst numbers was making him less tradeable. Less likely to sign another big contract. Dont think he gave two cents Sounds like he just jacked up shots. Sounds like mgmt gave up on him.

Believe Drummond can play more efficiently, if properly motivated. Especially on a LeBron led team.

Guess we'll see what happens.

Flanked by AD and Lebron this dude is gonna look good. I’d look good.

Not if he's as bad as you both are implying. They arent bringing him to LA to "look good". Which means they believe he has value. Just not enough for me to want to see him in a Knick uniform.

The Lakers didn't have to give up anything for him. We would of had to part with players and a low level pick. Getting him for noth8ng in a buyout there is zero risk

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3/30/2021  8:54 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
technomaster wrote:Well, perhaps he'll think about it with the Mitch injury...

My concern is that Drummond comes to NY, plays well enough to get a long term deal. Then goes back to what got him moved from his last two teams.


Wasn't this year his contract year? How much better can he play?

They benched him pretty early. Has been available for more than a month. Im guessing its about effort. Getting traded to a playoff team might provide Drummond with the necessary motivation. Until he gets another big payday. Lakers want him. They're trying to win a ring.


No, they benched him because Jarret Allen is better player. Better defender, better at the rim, more range on his J. The fact that Allen is younger and cheaper didn't help Drummond's case either.

Its one thing to fall back in the rotation. Its another to be out of the rotation entirely, for almost 2 months. Its more than getting outplayed. Coaches usually give players, (especially All-Stars) a chance at redemption. They gave up on Drummond, not halfway through the season.

My point remains, if Drummond was so bad at this point, I doubt the Lakers would be adding him for depth. With a title defense on the line. Believe its motivation, more than anything.

No, Drummond was motivated for a new deal. He wanted another max. He was pissed at the idea of getting benched because it killed his value. He tried to force a trade as much as the Cavs were pushing a trade. The Lakers have Harrell and Gasol at center, so they are just desperate at this point.

Motivated for a new deal, but NOT playing like he was motivated. Hence the benching. Normal to be pissed at being benched. Not normal to stay on the bench for 2 months. Didnt hear anything about Drummond refusing to play. Looks like they gave up on him. We should do the same. No matter how well Drummond plays in the offseason. He gets paid by NY, we'll be his latest sucker.

I think many people would say he played pretty much the same. He's always been a stat compiler who's play never really impacted winning. The gamble is that the Lakers hope playing with LeBron will help get him in line. I agree, the Knicks needed to steer clear. It's not realistic to expect him to suddenly turn the corner after he's been paid.

He was posting career worst numbers. What do you think are the odds that changes in LA? Im guessing pretty good. Maybe not right off the bat, with that layoff. But within a week or two.

The man has more money than he'll ever need. Contract year with the Cavs isnt the same as a playoff run with LeBron, when you're already set for life. Drummond wins a ring,gets paid somewhere else(like NY) I would give him his gold watch now, lol. Because he will already be halfway there Im guessing.

Here's the context. He was posting career worse shooting numbers on a career high usage. You like at his shooting numbers when his usage hits the 20s and his shooting numbers turn to crap. All of his other numbers (high rebounds, crappy passing) are the same. That's why this idea that he improves the offense is ridiculous. He's effective as a rim runner who stays in the dunker's spot. I have no doubt hell play better because he will have the ball in his hands a lot less.

Seems ridiculous to believe that no one pointed out to Drummond that his career worst numbers was making him less tradeable. Less likely to sign another big contract. Dont think he gave two cents Sounds like he just jacked up shots. Sounds like mgmt gave up on him.

Believe Drummond can play more efficiently, if properly motivated. Especially on a LeBron led team.

Guess we'll see what happens.

Flanked by AD and Lebron this dude is gonna look good. I’d look good.

Not if he's as bad as you both are implying. They arent bringing him to LA to "look good". Which means they believe he has value. Just not enough for me to want to see him in a Knick uniform.

The Lakers didn't have to give up anything for him. We would of had to part with players and a low level pick. Getting him for noth8ng in a buyout there is zero risk

There is the risk of giving a roster spot to a player who wont help, might even hurt their chance at repeating. Looking at the moves Brooklyn has made lately, Lakers dont have much room for error. They must see something beyond his bad stats. Not enough for me to. want to see the Knicks overpay for Drummond.

How do you guys feel if the big price of this trade deadline is Andre Drummond?

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