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Jmpasq wrote:I would trade for him. If he gets traded whatever team gets him will match the RFA offer

That is exactly why we need to trade for him rather than try to sign him in free agency. We need to be able to match any offer.

Is Lonzo really worth all of this (trading and signing to a big contract)? This kinda reminds me of drafting quarterbacks in the NFL. Just because you're the #1 rated quarterback in the draft doesn't mean you have the potential to be Elway or Peyton Manning. Lonzo may be the best available point guard right now, but it doesn't mean he's a franchise PG. Maybe he'll develop into one of the best, but that's a serious gamble considering what you would have to trade and pay him. He is clearly better than anybody we currently have, I just question if he's worth what it would take to get him?

He is from a sports family. He has improved on his game every season in the league. If we get him now he will be an all star under Thibs. He fits like a glove with our defensive approach and our transition game would finally be formidable. We have the D to start fast breaks. As far as his game the only knock on him was his shooting. Kinda like Jason Kidd when he was younger:) I would like to subscribe to your newsletter¡¡!!

Lonzo seems like he thrives more in the open court than in the half court game. Will Thibs be willing to play more up-tempo to better suit what Lonzo does best?

In our system every possession is valued more. Points scored lead to wins much more so when you also play defense. When defense leads to offense it's beautiful, basketball at its best IMHO. The name of the game is easy transition baskets initiated by stops on d. If we could put an extra 10 points on the board in transition per game I could see us challenging the East.

With the way things are going I am trusting the FO... obviously much of it comes down to cost

Jimbo5 wrote:I would like to see Lonzo in a knick uniform but the price might be to high, i dont want the knicks be involved with a bidding war with other teams to get the services of Lonzo. What do you guys think if the knicks go ahead with the plan B approach. I stead of getting Lonzo and Oladipo, what if they focus their attention to Malcom Brogdan and Graham? They are not superstars in the making but they are very good players. Plus their trade price is much lower. What is the outlook of a knicks team with Brogdan and Graham in the lineup long term?

Sometimes you pay for what you get.
Long term? We got three top 35 picks this June and IQ in incubating.
Don’t think Lonzo is not playing games behind the scenes. Those bird rights are important to him and he has the leverage of extorting a good payday and leaving NOLA with some tough choices. Even NOLA has a price to pay to even keep him.
If they are to trade him it has to be worth their while the team acquiring him has to understand he is still RFA if Lonzo was being drafted where would he be today?
That he was the 2nd pick is not relevant. Lonzo is worth a 10-5 pick perhaps. Knicks can’t afford to not protect the pick in the chance its top 5.
But thats just my opinion. Knicks seem to be a team that walks away from valuations they don’t agree with given last off season. I dont expect them to change unless the parameters are different and it can be with each player. I know what most of you think of Knox but know what FO does.
Why is Iggy even on the team BTW?? For that matter is KK going to get some time??
I’m not intimate with NOLA’s roster and what they want. Not even sure they want to trade Lonzo unless its a “Godfather trade”: Make me an offer you can’t refuse!

smackeddog wrote:Woj saying watch for the Bulls and Lonzo- honestly, that makes the most sense, good fit, they have cap space to sign him anyways in the offseason and they have young players they are ready to shed. I still think that’s where he ends up

I agree. Lonzo is the perfect player next to Zach and they are incentivized fo keep him happy with 2022 FA coming up as well. Conley/Dragic might be our only hope :(

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GustavBahler wrote:Probably would take Mitch to get the Pel's attention. If we knew that we're going to lose Mitch to free agency, Id be in favor of a deal.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/lonzowire.usatoday.com/2021/03/23/lonzo-ball-trade-rumors-pelicans-bulls-nuggets-bol-bol/amp/

Report: Bol Bol, Lauri Markannen offered in packages for Lonzo Ball

By Jacob Rude | March 23, 2021 2:17 pm

In search of the best potential offer for Lonzo Ball, the New Orleans Pelicans appear to at least have an eye on big men to pair with Zion Williamson long-term. Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer reported on Monday the Pelicans have had discussions with Chicago on a deal involving Lauri Markkanen and with Denver on a deal with Bol Bol included.

“…There were early discussions centered around swapping Lauri Markkanen for Ball, sources said, yet those talks have not yet seemed close to substantial.

Denver has repeatedly been mentioned by league sources as a Ball suitor, rumored to have offered Bol Bol in those early conversations…”

This is not the first time the Bulls have been mentioned. The Ringer’s Kevin O’Connor reported the team dangled Tomas Satoransky and second-round picks for Ball as well.

In theory, Markkanen and Bol would be complementary pieces to Williamson with their ability to stretch the floor. Both, however, would likely need to be packaged for more assets in a trade for Ball.

Markkanen has struggled to stay on the court and is also set for restricted free agency. Bol has been a high-potential player but is still pretty far away from contributing to a winning team.

This actually encourages me. The Knicks can pretty well smash either of those offers. I don't think Mitch and Laurie are comparable players. Both are injury prone, but Laurie seems very up and down while at least Mitch seems stable in his contributions. Bol Bol is whatever.

This to me established the market as pretty low for him and while I would want to get him without giving up assets, if we had to offer Knox and a 1st and a 2nd and take Reddick back I'd be ok with that. Hell...I'd aim bigger and try for Lonzo and Josh Hart to kill 2 birds with one stone.

jskinny35 wrote:The rumors are suggesting they would want at least 1 first rounder and a serviceable player for Ball. The Pels also reportedly would attach a 1st rounder for a team to take Bledsoe. Obviously we don't know how true the rumors are but if that is close to what the asking price is... we should offer to take Bledsoe (absorb him) and then only give up 1 low first rounder since taking Bledsoe would negate the 1st rounder needed for Ball? If we were the Heat or the Lakers we could probably wait until the offseason for free agency as they are desirable destinations - we're improving but not there yet.

I'd part with Knox or Frank (or Payton) and the Dallas 1st to ensure we get Ball. We would probably have to release Payton if he wouldn't agree to a trade. I don't like the Drummond rumors so hope we just stand pat vs including Mitch in any deals. Should be a fun 12 hours until deadline...

Oh man, that's a no brainer. We need to do this trade. Let's not outthink ourselves over here