ekstarks94 wrote:

wargames wrote:How do you trade someone putting up these stats at 26?

You can’t even offer him to other teams because that implies you think it’s a fluke. They got to engage you after this holds up for a few weeks. Even then who do you trade him for? Thibs runs a system based on two offensive initiators in his Offense. Randle/RJ. You got to try and get that back for him.

Randle’s deal is also a steal. I just don’t see how they trade him right now.

I agree with u 100% ....Randle is the fulcrum for this offense and his defense has been good as well. He is only 26 I say if this continues you roll with and you got your one star you look for a pairing to add to RJ and Mitch....this is a good problem for the Knicks....

Not sure what you can get that would make you better now and in the future...but if they choose to his play right now can grease the skids on a lot of deals...this is not Dantoni pumping up Boris Diaw’s value in the valley of the sun....I think his play is sustainable....let’s just hope he holds up under Thibs heavy mins because he riding RJ and Randle like secretariat....

It pretty much means that we have our frontcourt set. Did you see that play vs. Atlanta where Mitch did not go for fakes and altered that shot and Randle ripped that rebound like noones business? That's exactly what we need. Mitch gets the stop. Randle boxes out and grabs the board. It's like basketball music.

The ideal player to add to the Knicks team is Kawhi Leonard - a 29 year old 2-way wing that does a lot of things at an elite level. But unless he goes to Ballmer and says he wants out and wants to specifically go to the Knicks, I don't think he'll ever end up here.

Randle is pretty much the ideal age (26) for a young superstar addition and for now, is producing like a $40m max-type player. We're very fortunate to have him at 2 years at basically half that price. He may indeed not be a true #1 option, but I don't see where we find a clear upgrade in the 25-30 age range. You can't really go much older than that, because the rest of the team is basically made of 20-22 year olds that are still finding their games.

The Knicks imho could use a better 3&D SF and PG - Basically we see opportunity for much better play from Bullock/Payton's minutes. I think both of them have fine contracts for what they give - at least we're not overpaying them.

Quickley and Rivers might already be the guys that take over those minutes. The Knicks would have to be comfortable with RJ taking the physical punishment guarding somewhat bigger players at SF.

If we're looking at a more traditional lineup, we probably can get improve at PG with either Quickley/Rivers getting the bulk of the minutes running point, and Frank/Knox/Obi stepping up.

I think what we will probably end up seeing is Randle sticking with the Knicks and some of our young assets moving on for mild upgrades. Plus we have 2 first rounders coming next year.

technomaster wrote:Obviously, we need to look at where we are as a team to determine what to do with Randle. With the emergence of Rivers and Quickley, PG may be far less of a need than originally thought.

The ideal player to add to the Knicks team is Kawhi Leonard - a 29 year old 2-way wing that does a lot of things at an elite level. But unless he goes to Ballmer and says he wants out and wants to specifically go to the Knicks, I don't think he'll ever end up here.

Randle is pretty much the ideal age (26) for a young superstar addition and for now, is producing like a $40m max-type player. We're very fortunate to have him at 2 years at basically half that price. He may indeed not be a true #1 option, but I don't see where we find a clear upgrade in the 25-30 age range. You can't really go much older than that, because the rest of the team is basically made of 20-22 year olds that are still finding their games.

The Knicks imho could use a better 3&D SF and PG - Basically we see opportunity for much better play from Bullock/Payton's minutes. I think both of them have fine contracts for what they give - at least we're not overpaying them.

Quickley and Rivers might already be the guys that take over those minutes. The Knicks would have to be comfortable with RJ taking the physical punishment guarding somewhat bigger players at SF.

If we're looking at a more traditional lineup, we probably can get improve at PG with either Quickley/Rivers getting the bulk of the minutes running point, and Frank/Knox/Obi stepping up.

I think what we will probably end up seeing is Randle sticking with the Knicks and some of our young assets moving on for mild upgrades. Plus we have 2 first rounders coming next year.

If Randle stays close to his current output and Mitch can develop any kind of consistent mid-range game, and without any significant injuries, the team can be pretty damn good even without other major additions.

knicks1248 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

technomaster wrote:Obviously, we need to look at where we are as a team to determine what to do with Randle. With the emergence of Rivers and Quickley, PG may be far less of a need than originally thought.

The ideal player to add to the Knicks team is Kawhi Leonard - a 29 year old 2-way wing that does a lot of things at an elite level. But unless he goes to Ballmer and says he wants out and wants to specifically go to the Knicks, I don't think he'll ever end up here.

Randle is pretty much the ideal age (26) for a young superstar addition and for now, is producing like a $40m max-type player. We're very fortunate to have him at 2 years at basically half that price. He may indeed not be a true #1 option, but I don't see where we find a clear upgrade in the 25-30 age range. You can't really go much older than that, because the rest of the team is basically made of 20-22 year olds that are still finding their games.

The Knicks imho could use a better 3&D SF and PG - Basically we see opportunity for much better play from Bullock/Payton's minutes. I think both of them have fine contracts for what they give - at least we're not overpaying them.

Quickley and Rivers might already be the guys that take over those minutes. The Knicks would have to be comfortable with RJ taking the physical punishment guarding somewhat bigger players at SF.

If we're looking at a more traditional lineup, we probably can get improve at PG with either Quickley/Rivers getting the bulk of the minutes running point, and Frank/Knox/Obi stepping up.

I think what we will probably end up seeing is Randle sticking with the Knicks and some of our young assets moving on for mild upgrades. Plus we have 2 first rounders coming next year.

If Randle stays close to his current output and Mitch can develop any kind of consistent mid-range game, and without any significant injuries, the team can be pretty damn good even without other major additions.

I still think we can Use a stretch big and lonzo ball

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

technomaster wrote:Obviously, we need to look at where we are as a team to determine what to do with Randle. With the emergence of Rivers and Quickley, PG may be far less of a need than originally thought.

The ideal player to add to the Knicks team is Kawhi Leonard - a 29 year old 2-way wing that does a lot of things at an elite level. But unless he goes to Ballmer and says he wants out and wants to specifically go to the Knicks, I don't think he'll ever end up here.

Randle is pretty much the ideal age (26) for a young superstar addition and for now, is producing like a $40m max-type player. We're very fortunate to have him at 2 years at basically half that price. He may indeed not be a true #1 option, but I don't see where we find a clear upgrade in the 25-30 age range. You can't really go much older than that, because the rest of the team is basically made of 20-22 year olds that are still finding their games.

The Knicks imho could use a better 3&D SF and PG - Basically we see opportunity for much better play from Bullock/Payton's minutes. I think both of them have fine contracts for what they give - at least we're not overpaying them.

Quickley and Rivers might already be the guys that take over those minutes. The Knicks would have to be comfortable with RJ taking the physical punishment guarding somewhat bigger players at SF.

If we're looking at a more traditional lineup, we probably can get improve at PG with either Quickley/Rivers getting the bulk of the minutes running point, and Frank/Knox/Obi stepping up.

I think what we will probably end up seeing is Randle sticking with the Knicks and some of our young assets moving on for mild upgrades. Plus we have 2 first rounders coming next year.

If Randle stays close to his current output and Mitch can develop any kind of consistent mid-range game, and without any significant injuries, the team can be pretty damn good even without other major additions.

I still think we can Use a stretch big and lonzo ball

Lonzo Ball is trash

I wouldn't call him trash, but I'd rather play IQ than pay a guard of Lonzo's caliber and legitimate stretch center don't grow on trees. I was hoping Omari could fill the niche. Who knows, he still might.

technomaster wrote:Obviously, we need to look at where we are as a team to determine what to do with Randle. With the emergence of Rivers and Quickley, PG may be far less of a need than originally thought.

The ideal player to add to the Knicks team is Kawhi Leonard - a 29 year old 2-way wing that does a lot of things at an elite level. But unless he goes to Ballmer and says he wants out and wants to specifically go to the Knicks, I don't think he'll ever end up here.

Randle is pretty much the ideal age (26) for a young superstar addition and for now, is producing like a $40m max-type player. We're very fortunate to have him at 2 years at basically half that price. He may indeed not be a true #1 option, but I don't see where we find a clear upgrade in the 25-30 age range. You can't really go much older than that, because the rest of the team is basically made of 20-22 year olds that are still finding their games.

The Knicks imho could use a better 3&D SF and PG - Basically we see opportunity for much better play from Bullock/Payton's minutes. I think both of them have fine contracts for what they give - at least we're not overpaying them.

Quickley and Rivers might already be the guys that take over those minutes. The Knicks would have to be comfortable with RJ taking the physical punishment guarding somewhat bigger players at SF.

If we're looking at a more traditional lineup, we probably can get improve at PG with either Quickley/Rivers getting the bulk of the minutes running point, and Frank/Knox/Obi stepping up.

I think what we will probably end up seeing is Randle sticking with the Knicks and some of our young assets moving on for mild upgrades. Plus we have 2 first rounders coming next year.

Kawhi is a west coast guy. He ain’t coming here. He could have stayed in Toronto for the max with a team he won with but chose not to

Giannis and Harden are both realistic trades next summer. If the Knicks continue to play well and finish with the 5th or 6th seed I can see a scenario where we package Randle, Mitch and 3x First Round picks for Giannis and then sign Drummond in free agency to take Mitch’s place at C

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

technomaster wrote:Obviously, we need to look at where we are as a team to determine what to do with Randle. With the emergence of Rivers and Quickley, PG may be far less of a need than originally thought.

The ideal player to add to the Knicks team is Kawhi Leonard - a 29 year old 2-way wing that does a lot of things at an elite level. But unless he goes to Ballmer and says he wants out and wants to specifically go to the Knicks, I don't think he'll ever end up here.

Randle is pretty much the ideal age (26) for a young superstar addition and for now, is producing like a $40m max-type player. We're very fortunate to have him at 2 years at basically half that price. He may indeed not be a true #1 option, but I don't see where we find a clear upgrade in the 25-30 age range. You can't really go much older than that, because the rest of the team is basically made of 20-22 year olds that are still finding their games.

The Knicks imho could use a better 3&D SF and PG - Basically we see opportunity for much better play from Bullock/Payton's minutes. I think both of them have fine contracts for what they give - at least we're not overpaying them.

Quickley and Rivers might already be the guys that take over those minutes. The Knicks would have to be comfortable with RJ taking the physical punishment guarding somewhat bigger players at SF.

If we're looking at a more traditional lineup, we probably can get improve at PG with either Quickley/Rivers getting the bulk of the minutes running point, and Frank/Knox/Obi stepping up.

I think what we will probably end up seeing is Randle sticking with the Knicks and some of our young assets moving on for mild upgrades. Plus we have 2 first rounders coming next year.

If Randle stays close to his current output and Mitch can develop any kind of consistent mid-range game, and without any significant injuries, the team can be pretty damn good even without other major additions.

I still think we can Use a stretch big and lonzo ball

Lonzo Ball is trash

I wouldn't call him trash, but I'd rather play IQ than pay a guard of Lonzo's caliber and legitimate stretch center don't grow on trees. I was hoping Omari could fill the niche. Who knows, he still might.

Yeah Lonzo isn’t trash by any means, but I don’t think he moves the needle

technomaster wrote:Obviously, we need to look at where we are as a team to determine what to do with Randle. With the emergence of Rivers and Quickley, PG may be far less of a need than originally thought.

The ideal player to add to the Knicks team is Kawhi Leonard - a 29 year old 2-way wing that does a lot of things at an elite level. But unless he goes to Ballmer and says he wants out and wants to specifically go to the Knicks, I don't think he'll ever end up here.

Randle is pretty much the ideal age (26) for a young superstar addition and for now, is producing like a $40m max-type player. We're very fortunate to have him at 2 years at basically half that price. He may indeed not be a true #1 option, but I don't see where we find a clear upgrade in the 25-30 age range. You can't really go much older than that, because the rest of the team is basically made of 20-22 year olds that are still finding their games.

The Knicks imho could use a better 3&D SF and PG - Basically we see opportunity for much better play from Bullock/Payton's minutes. I think both of them have fine contracts for what they give - at least we're not overpaying them.

Quickley and Rivers might already be the guys that take over those minutes. The Knicks would have to be comfortable with RJ taking the physical punishment guarding somewhat bigger players at SF.

If we're looking at a more traditional lineup, we probably can get improve at PG with either Quickley/Rivers getting the bulk of the minutes running point, and Frank/Knox/Obi stepping up.

I think what we will probably end up seeing is Randle sticking with the Knicks and some of our young assets moving on for mild upgrades. Plus we have 2 first rounders coming next year.

I agree that Quickley and Rivers eventually taking over for Payton and Bullock may be the improvements needed. I originally thought Burks instead of Rivers, which may still be the case, but Rivers offers more playmaking and defense while still providing adequate floor spacing. Burks and Toppin provide a ton of offense off the bench. Between Rivers and Quickley, a PG may not be needed and they probably offer enough playmaking between them to take pressure off of Randle and Barrett. This is assuming Quickley adjusts to the nba game well. Obviously shooting becomes less of a concern too. And Rivers continues to serve as a closer at times.

C Robinson, Randle, Barrett, Rivers, and Quickley with Toppin and Burks leading the bench. We have 7 guys to be really excited about, loads of cap space and multiple first round picks to get better. We are in a really good place even if we don’t add an elite free agent any time soon.

Knixkik wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

technomaster wrote:Obviously, we need to look at where we are as a team to determine what to do with Randle. With the emergence of Rivers and Quickley, PG may be far less of a need than originally thought.

The ideal player to add to the Knicks team is Kawhi Leonard - a 29 year old 2-way wing that does a lot of things at an elite level. But unless he goes to Ballmer and says he wants out and wants to specifically go to the Knicks, I don't think he'll ever end up here.

Randle is pretty much the ideal age (26) for a young superstar addition and for now, is producing like a $40m max-type player. We're very fortunate to have him at 2 years at basically half that price. He may indeed not be a true #1 option, but I don't see where we find a clear upgrade in the 25-30 age range. You can't really go much older than that, because the rest of the team is basically made of 20-22 year olds that are still finding their games.

The Knicks imho could use a better 3&D SF and PG - Basically we see opportunity for much better play from Bullock/Payton's minutes. I think both of them have fine contracts for what they give - at least we're not overpaying them.

Quickley and Rivers might already be the guys that take over those minutes. The Knicks would have to be comfortable with RJ taking the physical punishment guarding somewhat bigger players at SF.

If we're looking at a more traditional lineup, we probably can get improve at PG with either Quickley/Rivers getting the bulk of the minutes running point, and Frank/Knox/Obi stepping up.

I think what we will probably end up seeing is Randle sticking with the Knicks and some of our young assets moving on for mild upgrades. Plus we have 2 first rounders coming next year.

If Randle stays close to his current output and Mitch can develop any kind of consistent mid-range game, and without any significant injuries, the team can be pretty damn good even without other major additions.

I still think we can Use a stretch big and lonzo ball

Lonzo Ball is trash

I wouldn't call him trash, but I'd rather play IQ than pay a guard of Lonzo's caliber and legitimate stretch center don't grow on trees. I was hoping Omari could fill the niche. Who knows, he still might.

Yeah Lonzo isn’t trash by any means, but I don’t think he moves the needle