Chandler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Chandler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Chandler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:I think KD's chill statement will tarnish his legacy. I think by publicly refusing to take on a challenge how big or small it is should automatically take someone out of contention for the best player ever.

There is Mount Rushmore of top 5. Jordan, wilt, Russell, Jabbar, and Lebron. Best players who defined a generation. Then there are the MVP’s with rings. Its a crowded space.
Durant is George Gervin but has an MVP and a ring. But he did not define his team or his era. Durant is not better than Lebron. He is in Dirk Territory. Great career, MVP, HOF. Just not quite in that iconic space.

You forgot Magic and Larry

Magic and Larry are not on my Mount Rushmore. Room for just 5 players. I know Lebron will always bring an arguement but thats for another time. Magic and Larry were the alpha’s on great teams. I suppose one can also. Group MVP’s by how many they had and rings too. I left out a lot of players. Moses Malone has rings and Multiple MVPs. We can go on and one. Durant is an MVP with two rings. Its tarnished because he joined a great group by fans and Media. His numbers and playoff performances speak volumes.
Yes, he is a on the Mt Rushmore of SF’s.

Nalod how old are you? Wondering if you saw them much in real-time. I don't see how you leave those guys out. Larry and Magic not only were great but they had truly great competition. Lakers and Celts of course but there were a lot of great teams then (e.g., Sixers). And not only were they contemporaries but they defined a generation when the team's best player's greatest attribute was how much he elevated his teammates play. MJ was dominant but did he elevate teammates the same way (I would argue Pippen did a better job of elevating MJ than vice versa). ANd Lebron is amazingly talented and an awesome passer but still a tier below in terms of elevating teammates (who i suspect he like MJ refers to as his supporting case -- even now).

Query whether you can say the same level for MJ (who was also on a great team) or Lebron (where sorry teaming up with Dwayne and CHris is a negative -- and one of their rings has a big asterisk because the Celts honestly beat them in 6 except for NBA mandate that Lebron must get to finals)

Now re-do your homework; I'm giving you an incomplete. When you comeback i want an extra paragraph explaining that MJ and Lebron are as much a creature of Nike hegemony as they are of anything else.

Everyone has their own Mt. Rushmore. I limit mine to 5 players. I’m in my late 50’s. You might have more than 5 on yours. Go for it.

Mine are the right 5! I don't buy into nike-ist dialectic of what makes a player great

No player in history has ever gotten 16 all-NBA awards. Lebron just did that. Im not a gushing fan. I learned to see beyond the hate. the 9 straight finals appearances and the work he has done with Cleveland is impreesive. What sealed it? The 2016 season when GSW produced the greatest single season record of 72 wins and the Cav's came back to beat them. Naturally a player of this form for th elast 16 years in an era where more and more commercialism and hype exists Its easy to repel against the Lebron hype. I hated the decision as much as anyone and the Heatles hype was nausiating. Thru it I enjoyed when they mocked Dallas and lost year one.
Lebron was an immautre not to likable person but thru it I watched the games. While not much to say he stil spoke out on racial issue in an era most players stayed out of it. That he humbled a bit and then went back to Cleveland to fulfil a promise. He earned the right to pick and choose wehre he wanted to play. He built schools and speaks out. Not the sharpest crayon int he box but I watched him noow for many years and just amazed at his ability at this age with those miles on the legs. yes, 16 years and he is still top 5 at his age.
He earned my respect for what he does on the court.
Beating the 72 win GSW team is still an underated feat in my opinion.

smackeddog wrote:Jeez, he is so annoying

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How hypersensitive can this guy be?

fwk00 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Jeez, he is so annoying

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https://twitter.com/DailyKnicksFS/status/1307777854885826560

So he played the media and fans for well over a year and waits until *now* to talk about the fact that he never had any interest.

Please, Kevin, *DO* go on...

Lol, I bet he’s lurking here. What a wierdo