TripleThreat wrote:joec32033 wrote:The Knicks have had several times when the full front office was minorities (Pres. GM. Coach), they have repeatedly shown that color no bearing on who they hire.
The irony is, of course, what the Knicks have done, WITHOUT CONTEXT, will be evidence to some that you shouldn't hire black coaches nor executives at all. If you have an all black front office regime and it fails again and again, what does that say?
Of course, WITH CONTEXT, having James Dolan as an inept owner and poor resource management ( trading away so many draft picks, poor use of the cap, etc) is more likely a larger culprit for failure.
This is a huge part of the problem. Social media leaves little to no room for context. It allows people to say what they are thinking right as they think it without regard for introspection. And since the NBA cannot generate enough real basketball news to fill a 365/24/7 news cycle, the marketing machine fabricates fake/manipulated conflicts.
Ty Lue doesn't have the skill set or disposition to be a head coach in the NBA.
Mark Jackson and especially Patrick Ewing are a couple of huge ****ing morons. This is the conflict within the general media and sports media. It's apparently impossible for a black athlete or black coach or black executive in sports to be an imbecile. Saying it out loud makes you a target for being called a racist. Michael Vick was a low IQ quarterback in the NFL who happens to also have low life IQ. With the Jets, he had the same problems he had his entire career. But no one could just come out and say it. "Are you saying black people are stupid!" No, they want to say Michael Vick is stupid and whom just happens to be black. Just like Rich Kotite was stupid and just happened to be white. And like most stupid people, Vick ended up doing stupid **** like killing a bunch of dogs then getting caught doing it.
People also don't want to separate the player from the person from the non player career. Jordan was a true franchise player. He is also one of the worst executives in the history of any modern era professional sport.
Of course a low speed high drag mouthbreather like David West will immediately cite that Lue, Jackson and Ewing were all former players. Yes, and do good doctors make good executives to run an entire hospital? Does a great bartender or waitress mean they will be good at running an entire restaurant? Does a good street cop instantly make that person a great future chief of police? The job of being an NBA player is nothing like being an NBA coach nor being an NBA executive. A few rare ones are lucky enough to be skilled at both or all three, nearly all are not.
If David West was 5'8, he'd be working at a Sbarros. Fuck David West.
What has David West done to help the plight of black coaches in professional sports? He cries and demands but won't lift a finger on his own, sounds like a typical suburban stay at home entitled "Karen" who spends all their time doing Soul Cycle and sitting in a Starbucks expecting the lush life that Oprah promised her. David West doesn't need more black coaches, he needs to change his tampon.
As a Knicks diehard, I have nothing but love in my heart for Patrick Ewing the player. But fandom and homerism doesn't go far enough to escape the reality that Ewing is a total ****ing moron. You don't want someone with that toxic set of ego, narcissism, lack of self awareness, lack of critical thinking ability, lack of basic communication skills anywhere near young players and/or the media and/or other coaches/agents/owners/executives. Do you see any other team rushing to hire Patrick Ewing?
If "Karen" West needed his tampon changed and Patrick Ewing was tasked to do the job, guess what? You'd have a puddle of DNA on the ground large enough to keep every different cast of CSI happy and West would have a Kotex shoved in his right ear.
All hail Karen West, Queen of Sbarros
"Morons" are people that speak on matters they know nothing about. "Morons" are people that take their simple mindless opinions that lack knowledge or fact and try to project them as truth. How the **** would you know if Jackson or Ewing are "Morons" and lack "Critical Thinking"? Let me guess, your endless posting on fan forums, internet browsing, numerous arm chair GM takes (which you hope are read by more than the 42 eyes usually on them) has given you the ability to speak on how much "Critical Thinking" two Pro athletes and coaches possess? Think there might be more evidence of the the lack of "Critical thinking" right here on the forums. Judging by some of your extended posts, you may be guilty of what you claim those two to have. No offense.
By far the oddest thing about your post was that you felt the best way to combat an obvious incorrect take, by David West, was to attack two other African American coaches. And not based on merit but their "lack of Critical thinking'? I mean why would you point out that although West did have a point that there needs to be more African American coaches in a predominantly African American sport, one can point to the Knicks as one of the better minority hiring organizations in the last 20 years? Or perhaps to the fact that the Knicks currently have several minorities at high positions in the front office. Or even maybe that they have hired minority coaches 2 out of the last 3 coaching searches? Nah, just go right to the attacking the lack of intellect of the African American coaches named in the rant? Hmmm
As for West. His point was misdirected and misinformed. For several reasons including the ones mentioned above. He also failed to judge all the candidates on merit and failed to factor in what the Knicks were looking for. It did not make sense for the Knicks to hire yet another "Hopeful" after failing with several of those types of hires in the last 10 years. He failed to realize that the Knicks, perhaps, were looking for a tougher defensive identity. They wanted a coach that has had more than a couple of years of NBA experience. They may have wanted to have a coach that is going to hold players accountable and have a great work ethic. Did Thibs have any negatives? Absolutely. But think you can say that about any of the mentioned candidates. Think West was trying to make a point but did not take the time to gather all the facts. Par for the course in today's social media environment. Where all can act like they know what they are talking about if the y say it often enough.
'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020