SupremeCommander wrote:if this is the guy that Dolan wanted I have no problem with this. The last time the Knicks were any good all the important players came from CAA. also, the Warriors and Lakers hired former agents and I would trade our situation for theirs. This guy represented some of the best players alive. You do that by being able to sell and being able to identify young talent early. You don't make any money by representing someone AFTER they make their money. You get paid by representing talented players as soon as they're eligible. Then you hope they don't fire you before they sign their UFA deals. He could suck but even if he does I bet he is way better than Mills

Pelinka was nearly run out of town around the same time last year because of the dysfunction in LA. LeBron joined the Lakers because they are the best franchise in basketball. Also, Magic was the Prez at the time. I give most of the credit to LeBron and Paul for landing AD.

But would Rose shyt where he sleeps?

Take your time interview people, gauge if Masii, Buford, Presti, Morey are available. They should have allowed Perry to sell the vets today and acquire draft picks to give the next GM ammo to play with.

Another hire with no experience. It’s amazing that you can be this incompetent.

Uptown wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:if this is the guy that Dolan wanted I have no problem with this. The last time the Knicks were any good all the important players came from CAA. also, the Warriors and Lakers hired former agents and I would trade our situation for theirs. This guy represented some of the best players alive. You do that by being able to sell and being able to identify young talent early. You don't make any money by representing someone AFTER they make their money. You get paid by representing talented players as soon as they're eligible. Then you hope they don't fire you before they sign their UFA deals. He could suck but even if he does I bet he is way better than Mills

Pelinka was nearly run out of town around the same time last year because of the dysfunction in LA. LeBron joined the Lakers because they are the best franchise in basketball. Also, Magic was the Prez at the time. I give most of the credit to LeBron and Paul for landing AD.

Maybe we should've hired Paul hahaha Honestly, this move shows Dolan hasn't learned from his mistakes. I get it, agent relationships are vital. But are over reliance on forced agent relationships is part of the reason we're at the stage we are now. The willingness to gamble on guys with FO experience is the also a reason. Instead of learning from those past mistakes, we doubled down. It's like Dolan looked at the broad strokes and didn't really see why the idea of FO led by former agents worked in LA in GSW. This organization is needs an overhaul. Maybe the sell the team chants end for a few months, like they did when we hired Phil. I hope they do. I just don't see it.

PresIke wrote:

martin wrote:I am kind of on this train:

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https://twitter.com/TommyBeer/status/1225449303197523968

You really need someone sooner rather than later. The question mark surrounding this would make a lot of things difficult.

If someone came in in June they'd have no time to settle in and would have to immediately figure out the ins and outs of the organization, draft prospects, free agents, etc. leaving little time to make clearer decisions.

I'm not saying he's the right choice. I'm not sure what to think. I can see some positives and certainly negatives.

Pros:

- Has insights and connections to NBA players' interests/needs
- Has relationships with players/CAA clients/agents that can lead to improving the chance of getting free agents or orchestrating trades for "disgruntled" players
- Not having been an exec of an NBA team could lead to new ideas (maybe he's shared some)

Cons:

- Never an NBA exec which can lead to several problems. One, especially, is knowing as a leader how to run an NBA team well when we've had such an awful way of running things for decades
- While being an agent is more valuable with trades and free agents rather than the draft and assessing talent
- May be more of a wheeler and dealer than assessor/identifier of talent
- Knicks have had a relationship with CAA for some time and it hasn't led to positive results on the court and could smell of a different brand of nepotism

I'm a fan of the quick hire if Dolan knows who he wanted. Nothing was going to change with Ujiri. What's the point of waiting until June to hire someone you want in Feb? Why not eliminate that uncertainty around the team and just hire the guy you want to get the new era of Knicks basketball started? I'm glad it saved us months of speculation.

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

The New York Knicks will hire Leon Rose as President of Basketball Operations.

Rose is a longtime agent and currently works for CAA.

Rose represents Carmelo Anthony, Karl-Anthony Towns, D'Angelo Russell, Devin Booker, Joel Embiid, Kyle Kuzma, Chris Paul and many other NBA players.

Ian Begley reports that William Wesley is under consideration to have a role with the Knicks. Rose and Wesley are longtime associates.

Wes has massive connects all over

omg like you know. WE are going to have a $150mm payroll full of CAA 30 year old retreads, make the 7th seed and amoebas like you will be dancing in the streets talking about winning culture

YUP. Lot's of fans are wetting their panties in anticipation of the next dumbstarfukk.

Uptown wrote:Simmons has clowned the Knicks for years...

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Was about to post this. Intriguing. One thing is clear - Rose and Wes have very large juice cards.

meloshouldgo wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

The New York Knicks will hire Leon Rose as President of Basketball Operations.

Rose is a longtime agent and currently works for CAA.

Rose represents Carmelo Anthony, Karl-Anthony Towns, D'Angelo Russell, Devin Booker, Joel Embiid, Kyle Kuzma, Chris Paul and many other NBA players.

Ian Begley reports that William Wesley is under consideration to have a role with the Knicks. Rose and Wesley are longtime associates.

Wes has massive connects all over

omg like you know. WE are going to have a $150mm payroll full of CAA 30 year old retreads, make the 7th seed and amoebas like you will be dancing in the streets talking about winning culture

YUP. Lot's of fans are wetting their panties in anticipation of the next dumbstarfukk.

Sambakick wrote:I'll try to explain why this could be good:

Agents are salesmen. They first have to sell themselves to the player to get hired. Then they have to sell the player to the team president and GM to get the player and himself paid. Then they have to recruit new players to start the cycle again.

A great Salesman is what this team needs.
Remember last summer we got no interviews with any top players.
Remember Donnie Walsh in a wheelchair pitching to LeBron.
We need a respected voice and a great salesman who can present the VISION and sell that vision to players.

indefensible