fishmike
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knicks1248 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:fishmike wrote:Uptown wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:TheGame wrote:Fiz just needs to turn the team over to Frank and stop with his fantasy of making DSJ the starter at some point in the future. The team plays better with Frank, and DSJ is never going to be a good enough defender to start in the league, so unless his offense and passing jumps up 2-3 levels, he should be used as a spark plug off the bench. The team needs to continue to build up Frank's confidence so we can start getting FIBA Frank every game. I actually felt he had Smith sit for to long. But understand it because we were rolling in that third. But the long term effect of that is he cooled off from what he had going earlier. And Frank had to take a later longer rest. The 14 pt collapse wasnt on Smith. Don't know why he is the one taking the hit. Besides Philly is a more talented team. A run is inevitable. We aren't 14 pts better than Philly. When the game was in crunch time and on the line. Morris selfishness tryna stunt for his home is what lost is the game. Barrett also attempted some poor hero ball drives. When Morris tried to run the coast to coast fast break on 3 defenders, getting blocked. I stopped watching the rest of the game. This loss was on Fix not taking control of the game Agree with pretty much everything you said...Smith played one of his better games, but some posters have a bad habit of pitting one knick vs the other (Chandler/Gallo...Spree/Houston, etc) so some Frank supporters are going to place blame on Smith even when its not warranted and vice versa... Morris definitely forced the action on that play and on the previous play as well....You could see plays like this coming from the summer when he reneged on the Spurs and joined the Knicks. On the Spurs, he's a number 3 option, here, he's a number 1 option. That, and the money was motivating factors I'm sure. Expect more of this as the season prolongs. Fiz mos def should have called a time-out on the play before the 1 on 3 fastbreak to organize a play (the pick and roll was working from the top of the key and the sidelines). But, in the end, the better team usually clamps down on the D during the last 5 minutes which is what Philly did. the bold is absolute madness. Totally true but like literally the dumbest part of fandom... the best and fastest path for the Knicks to get better is for BOTH of these PGs to elevate their game. For Frank is hitting the 3 and exploiting physical matchups to score. Obviously being aggressive and efficient at the same time. I believe his low usage and superior D make him the best pairing next to RJ. Thats a huge and imposing starting starting backcourt as it matures (and hopefully blossoms). As for DS he's the 6th man. Start at backup PG and go from there. One thing Fizdale never does is go small. All his linups are big, big and bigger. He's played Knox at SG. The only reason DS shouldnt be getting 30 mins off the bench is DS, I mean he's gotta earn it but for me thats the hope. Pretty stunning +/- numbers for the season. I threw them into excel cause I am bored. 720 minutes of play this season the Knicks are -104 on the season 363 minutes of play Frank has been on the floor Knicks are -9 (almost a perfect 50% of the time) 357 minutes of play with Frank on the bench Knicks are -95 Franks last 5 games: +2,+4,+4,+22,+2 10 games as a starter: 30mpg, 44.6% FG, 40% 3FG, 7.8ppg, 3.7ast, 1.2TO, 1.9Stl, 1.0blk, 3.3PF Looks and sounds good. I know you don't think I like Frank, but if he can keep that (fck it) attitude, it's definitely encouraging. when he plays passive and defers, I hate him While the fck it attitude is nice. The goal shouldn't be to install more selfishness. It should be to have the whole team fall in line to move the ball to get the best shot possible no matter who is taking it. Players shouldn't be fighting for shot attempts which the player who proves to be the most selfish wins. Frank shouldn't have to take matters into his own hands because his teammates are to selfish. That's not a culture that will produce consistent long term results. Great a Post!!! It’s not about how many shots you take, your point total, or how many fast break points you have. It’s about keeping the ball moving and trying to create the best shot selection. Frank is doing the right things. He is more aggressive taking shots but doesn’t take bad shots which is important. I don’t like selfish players. Like you said the team needs to work as a unit not fight over who gets the ball I think the reference to the fck it attitude is referring to playing instinctively, with confidence and aggression. Not overthinking it or being tentative. I don’t think anyone is suggesting Frank be selfish. I want frank to play selfish you think Coby White, Sexton, Dinwiddie, Fox, trey young, kemba, rozier play selfish? There's a growing trend in the league where PGs are lighting it up every single night, if you don't have that type, your record will be like ours is now.. Copy White is a shooting guard. Rozier's team is 6-11, Fox was the 5th pick and regarded as top tier talent as opposed to a project like Monk/DS/Frank later in the draft. Trey Young? Great. Funny... for a guy who hates losing you like talking about players who were acquired by teams after terrible seasons. See how that works?
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