blkexec wrote:I find it hallarious that the fans who dogged rose from the very beginning, wothout any facts.....zero.....calling him names and everything else are now hiding in the closet, with their heads between their legs. Of course they will now reply and say, rose is still guilty of mis- treating a female. And so are 70% or more knick fans (made up number of course) and 90% of any young stud in their sexual prime.

Stick to the facts first....leave the assumptions and bias views alone. Treat everybody equal....Remember innocent before proven guilty? That actually applies to everybody, not just a select few.

Life is full of success and learning lessons.....Lets hope Rose learned his lesson from this.....and can now focus on basketball.

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:I find it hallarious that the fans who dogged rose from the very beginning, wothout any facts.....zero.....calling him names and everything else are now hiding in the closet, with their heads between their legs. Of course they will now reply and say, rose is still guilty of mis- treating a female. And so are 70% or more knick fans (made up number of course) and 90% of any young stud in their sexual prime.

Stick to the facts first....leave the assumptions and bias views alone. Treat everybody equal....Remember innocent before proven guilty? That actually applies to everybody, not just a select few.

Life is full of success and learning lessons.....Lets hope Rose learned his lesson from this.....and can now focus on basketball.

guilty or innocent, in the grand scheme of things, he still did something with someone, mistreatment notwithstanding, that is kind of disgusting. he's not a member of isis, he's not donald trump, but this sort of event still impugns his character and smarts, and the people he surrounds himself with.

Some people think group sex is disgusting....others get turned on by it. Who am I to judge.

Only God can judge a mans heart.....I look at knick players like family members. I lean more on the positive optimistic side. If he was with the bulls, then i mightve been a little harder on him. Im not saying your right or wrong.....just showing how its ok to have a different perspective on the same situation. The only thing i dont like is when people arent treated equal due to unconscious biases.

yes unconscious bias is a genuine psychological phenomenon everyone has to deal with-- unless they are in denial or simply refuse to explore themselves. i would like to give any knick the benefit of the doubt as though they were someone i know personally, but if that person behaves badly or stupidly or in a way that gives me the creeps, i can't look past that. i am not in the "hate the sin, love the sinner" mold. jr smith, marbury, melo until recently, kidd with the dwi in the hamptons, now rose. and of course there's the lowlife twins thomas and dolan.

as others have said, rose may be a knick but knowing what sort of shenanigans he has been involved with, it makes him harder to root for. and for me, i don't like people who do not show inwardness and contrition, or take ownership of their deeds.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:I find it hallarious that the fans who dogged rose from the very beginning, wothout any facts.....zero.....calling him names and everything else are now hiding in the closet, with their heads between their legs. Of course they will now reply and say, rose is still guilty of mis- treating a female. And so are 70% or more knick fans (made up number of course) and 90% of any young stud in their sexual prime.

Stick to the facts first....leave the assumptions and bias views alone. Treat everybody equal....Remember innocent before proven guilty? That actually applies to everybody, not just a select few.

Life is full of success and learning lessons.....Lets hope Rose learned his lesson from this.....and can now focus on basketball.

guilty or innocent, in the grand scheme of things, he still did something with someone, mistreatment notwithstanding, that is kind of disgusting. he's not a member of isis, he's not donald trump, but this sort of event still impugns his character and smarts, and the people he surrounds himself with.

Some people think group sex is disgusting....others get turned on by it. Who am I to judge.

Only God can judge a mans heart.....I look at knick players like family members. I lean more on the positive optimistic side. If he was with the bulls, then i mightve been a little harder on him. Im not saying your right or wrong.....just showing how its ok to have a different perspective on the same situation. The only thing i dont like is when people arent treated equal due to unconscious biases.

yes unconscious bias is a genuine psychological phenomenon everyone has to deal with-- unless they are in denial or simply refuse to explore themselves. i would like to give any knick the benefit of the doubt as though they were someone i know personally, but if that person behaves badly or stupidly or in a way that gives me the creeps, i can't look past that. i am not in the "hate the sin, love the sinner" mold. jr smith, marbury, melo until recently, kidd with the dwi in the hamptons, now rose. and of course there's the lowlife twins thomas and dolan.

as others have said, rose may be a knick but knowing what sort of shenanigans he has been involved with, it makes him harder to root for. and for me, i don't like people who do not show inwardness and contrition, or take ownership of their deeds.

Good Post. I have never accused rose of a criminal act HOWEVER i still dont like what he did. Of course ive gotten accused of hating on him which was not the case. If KP did the same thing i wouldnt like it. Truthfully i want this case to be over and to start the season fresh. Truthfully i have never been a big fan of the rose trade, i loved the jennings signing much more. However both should help a lot if healthy

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:I find it hallarious that the fans who dogged rose from the very beginning, wothout any facts.....zero.....calling him names and everything else are now hiding in the closet, with their heads between their legs. Of course they will now reply and say, rose is still guilty of mis- treating a female. And so are 70% or more knick fans (made up number of course) and 90% of any young stud in their sexual prime.

Stick to the facts first....leave the assumptions and bias views alone. Treat everybody equal....Remember innocent before proven guilty? That actually applies to everybody, not just a select few.

Life is full of success and learning lessons.....Lets hope Rose learned his lesson from this.....and can now focus on basketball.

guilty or innocent, in the grand scheme of things, he still did something with someone, mistreatment notwithstanding, that is kind of disgusting. he's not a member of isis, he's not donald trump, but this sort of event still impugns his character and smarts, and the people he surrounds himself with.

Some people think group sex is disgusting....others get turned on by it. Who am I to judge.

Only God can judge a mans heart.....I look at knick players like family members. I lean more on the positive optimistic side. If he was with the bulls, then i mightve been a little harder on him. Im not saying your right or wrong.....just showing how its ok to have a different perspective on the same situation. The only thing i dont like is when people arent treated equal due to unconscious biases.

yes unconscious bias is a genuine psychological phenomenon everyone has to deal with-- unless they are in denial or simply refuse to explore themselves. i would like to give any knick the benefit of the doubt as though they were someone i know personally, but if that person behaves badly or stupidly or in a way that gives me the creeps, i can't look past that. i am not in the "hate the sin, love the sinner" mold. jr smith, marbury, melo until recently, kidd with the dwi in the hamptons, now rose. and of course there's the lowlife twins thomas and dolan.

as others have said, rose may be a knick but knowing what sort of shenanigans he has been involved with, it makes him harder to root for. and for me, i don't like people who do not show inwardness and contrition, or take ownership of their deeds.

Sprewell wasn't exactly walking around with a halo over his head, but we sure did love him when he helped take us to the NBA finals.

EnySpree wrote:Sprewell is a douche but for the period he was with us he was almost a model citizen. I think one time he got in trouble for driving cross country missing some of training camp.

Outside of work people are free to do what they want. Alot of you act like you all live on a religious compound and thus is your only outlet to the outside world.

Rose is pretty much a scumbag.... but we live in America. Before we condemn anone they have rights. Facts need to be gathered. You can't pick and chose when who gets that. The fact is this woman is a piece of **** her self and is lying about this case. Rose is definitely still a scumbag regardless.

As far as basketball. We root and cheer for a team. If Rose has on the jersey, I'm cheering for the jersey. He can be a scumbag and still work. As long as his legal problems get sorted out and he stays out of the garbage can, all will be good.

You forgot about "HandGate"?

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:I find it hallarious that the fans who dogged rose from the very beginning, wothout any facts.....zero.....calling him names and everything else are now hiding in the closet, with their heads between their legs. Of course they will now reply and say, rose is still guilty of mis- treating a female. And so are 70% or more knick fans (made up number of course) and 90% of any young stud in their sexual prime.

Stick to the facts first....leave the assumptions and bias views alone. Treat everybody equal....Remember innocent before proven guilty? That actually applies to everybody, not just a select few.

Life is full of success and learning lessons.....Lets hope Rose learned his lesson from this.....and can now focus on basketball.

guilty or innocent, in the grand scheme of things, he still did something with someone, mistreatment notwithstanding, that is kind of disgusting. he's not a member of isis, he's not donald trump, but this sort of event still impugns his character and smarts, and the people he surrounds himself with.

Some people think group sex is disgusting....others get turned on by it. Who am I to judge.

Only God can judge a mans heart.....I look at knick players like family members. I lean more on the positive optimistic side. If he was with the bulls, then i mightve been a little harder on him. Im not saying your right or wrong.....just showing how its ok to have a different perspective on the same situation. The only thing i dont like is when people arent treated equal due to unconscious biases.

yes unconscious bias is a genuine psychological phenomenon everyone has to deal with-- unless they are in denial or simply refuse to explore themselves. i would like to give any knick the benefit of the doubt as though they were someone i know personally, but if that person behaves badly or stupidly or in a way that gives me the creeps, i can't look past that. i am not in the "hate the sin, love the sinner" mold. jr smith, marbury, melo until recently, kidd with the dwi in the hamptons, now rose. and of course there's the lowlife twins thomas and dolan.

as others have said, rose may be a knick but knowing what sort of shenanigans he has been involved with, it makes him harder to root for. and for me, i don't like people who do not show inwardness and contrition, or take ownership of their deeds.

This was not the POTUS, or a married middle aged man. This was a 24 year jock who had consensual sex with some chick who ended up going after him for a money grab, and rather than just pay her out he had his day in court. Zero perspective. I am not even defending him or his actions.. its his business and since this has not happened since I would suspect he's learned some lessons in partner selection. Glad this is almost over so we can move along to basketball

But the defense also scored points, with Rose’s attorney Mark Baute getting the accuser to admit that her last drink on the night of the 26th was around 11 p.m. The admission makes it hard to believe she was too intoxicated to consent to sex with Rose and two of his friends four hours later.

“You were able to send and receive over 20 texts with Ryan Allen and Derrick Rose … the entire time you were blacked out, right,” Baute asked, referring to Rose’s friend.

Baute said the accuser sent the messages with perfect punctuation and use of slang words despite her claim that she was wasted from a night of drinking.

this suit is so bogus

knicks1248 wrote:

But the defense also scored points, with Rose’s attorney Mark Baute getting the accuser to admit that her last drink on the night of the 26th was around 11 p.m. The admission makes it hard to believe she was too intoxicated to consent to sex with Rose and two of his friends four hours later.

“You were able to send and receive over 20 texts with Ryan Allen and Derrick Rose … the entire time you were blacked out, right,” Baute asked, referring to Rose’s friend.

Baute said the accuser sent the messages with perfect punctuation and use of slang words despite her claim that she was wasted from a night of drinking.

this suit is so bogus

Absoultely. Beyond bogus, to the point where I'm actually annoyed about it. One of the biggest bunch of BS chumped up accusations in recent memory. Can't understand how this case wasn't thrown out, honestly.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:I find it hallarious that the fans who dogged rose from the very beginning, wothout any facts.....zero.....calling him names and everything else are now hiding in the closet, with their heads between their legs. Of course they will now reply and say, rose is still guilty of mis- treating a female. And so are 70% or more knick fans (made up number of course) and 90% of any young stud in their sexual prime.

Stick to the facts first....leave the assumptions and bias views alone. Treat everybody equal....Remember innocent before proven guilty? That actually applies to everybody, not just a select few.

Life is full of success and learning lessons.....Lets hope Rose learned his lesson from this.....and can now focus on basketball.

guilty or innocent, in the grand scheme of things, he still did something with someone, mistreatment notwithstanding, that is kind of disgusting. he's not a member of isis, he's not donald trump, but this sort of event still impugns his character and smarts, and the people he surrounds himself with.

Some people think group sex is disgusting....others get turned on by it. Who am I to judge.

Only God can judge a mans heart.....I look at knick players like family members. I lean more on the positive optimistic side. If he was with the bulls, then i mightve been a little harder on him. Im not saying your right or wrong.....just showing how its ok to have a different perspective on the same situation. The only thing i dont like is when people arent treated equal due to unconscious biases.

yes unconscious bias is a genuine psychological phenomenon everyone has to deal with-- unless they are in denial or simply refuse to explore themselves. i would like to give any knick the benefit of the doubt as though they were someone i know personally, but if that person behaves badly or stupidly or in a way that gives me the creeps, i can't look past that. i am not in the "hate the sin, love the sinner" mold. jr smith, marbury, melo until recently, kidd with the dwi in the hamptons, now rose. and of course there's the lowlife twins thomas and dolan.

as others have said, rose may be a knick but knowing what sort of shenanigans he has been involved with, it makes him harder to root for. and for me, i don't like people who do not show inwardness and contrition, or take ownership of their deeds.

Good Post. I have never accused rose of a criminal act HOWEVER i still dont like what he did. Of course ive gotten accused of hating on him which was not the case. If KP did the same thing i wouldnt like it. Truthfully i want this case to be over and to start the season fresh. Truthfully i have never been a big fan of the rose trade, i loved the jennings signing much more. However both should help a lot if healthy

+1... said it better than I could