GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knicks head coach Jeff Hornacek said the Knicks wouldn't hesitate to cut a player who has a guaranteed contract if the situation calls for it, according to Ian Begley of ESPN.

Begley noted that the Knicks have 15 players on guaranteed deals, meaning one player would have to be cut if the team wanted to keep a player on a partially-guaranteed deal.

Keith Schlosser, SNY.TV Twitter | Archive

Derrick Rose and Brandon Jennings are about as strong of a one-two punch at point guard as there is in the league, but the Knicks can't win on talent alone. Chemistry and stamina will come into play as well.

Obviously the aforementioned pair has had their fair share of injuries in recent seasons. New York can hope for the best, but some added depth wouldn't hurt. As camp continues, it should be considered a crucial need.

Hornacek suggesting the Knicks aren't afraid to shed a guaranteed contract confirms he's well aware (and in agreement) of this void at the one. The team's final roster spot should be up for grabs. With that in mind, Ron Baker and Chasson Randle are coming for it. It's either young gun's spot to win. Depending on how things shake out as camp progresses, it should be Marshall Plumlee or Maurice Ndour's to lose.

Each of the above big men may boast more intrigue and arguably even pure talent than a guy like Lou Amundson. However, Amundson's veteran contract costs more to let go, and the team appears to value veteran leadership and continuity on this roster. His tenure and seniority provides him with an advantage.

As far as Baker and Randle are concerned, Randle is more of a pure point guard. Similarly to Rose and Jennings, he ikes to penetrate, which can open things up for those around him on the floor. Potentially subbing him in, if need be, would allow the Knicks to execute the same style of play. It'd be nice to see him play well in camp and the preseason and really make a run at this final spot.

A higher level of competition this time of year is very healthy, because it makes guys hungrier. Randle would obviously fit a more pressing need. Knowing that in itself could light the fire under guys like Plumlee and Ndour and force them to show everyone what they're made of. No one toward the end of the roster is safe, but that's how it should be.

bye lou,

Yup, bye Lou. Would rather keep N'Dour, Randle. Maybe Phil finds more frontcourt help as the season progresses.

Definitely. Those are the two I want as well: N'Dour and Randle. I've always considered N'Dour a keeper regardless, even if he played poorly in training camp/preseason for whatever reason (nice to see that isn't the case so far -- looks like he's showing well and Hornacek likes him. Plus, we already know Phil, Gaines and co. like him a lot too: http://dailyknicks.com/2016/10/01/new-york-knicks-jeff-hornacek-maurice-ndour/). Absolutely LOVE that dude's energy and effectiveness/potential on both ends. There's been talk about Cheese playing some SG at times in certain matchups -- I actually think N'Dour might be even more capable to slide over to that position. I like Kuz a lot but it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see N'Dour quickly develop into the better player and get the most minutes out of those two...And yeah, Randle should be the 15th man, just on necessity alone (obvious need for more PG depth). I would love to keep this kid Baker too somehow. Signing Vujacic hurt his chances.. Maybe they have a strategy with Plumlee--they already paid him handsomely, surprising considering he went undrafted and isn't the most skilled big man around. But with the money issue out of the way, maybe he'd agree to go to Westchester full-time for the time being, which could then leave a spot open on the 15-man for Baker. Maybe that's the plan.

Finestrg wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knicks head coach Jeff Hornacek said the Knicks wouldn't hesitate to cut a player who has a guaranteed contract if the situation calls for it, according to Ian Begley of ESPN.

Begley noted that the Knicks have 15 players on guaranteed deals, meaning one player would have to be cut if the team wanted to keep a player on a partially-guaranteed deal.

Keith Schlosser, SNY.TV Twitter | Archive

Derrick Rose and Brandon Jennings are about as strong of a one-two punch at point guard as there is in the league, but the Knicks can't win on talent alone. Chemistry and stamina will come into play as well.

Obviously the aforementioned pair has had their fair share of injuries in recent seasons. New York can hope for the best, but some added depth wouldn't hurt. As camp continues, it should be considered a crucial need.

Hornacek suggesting the Knicks aren't afraid to shed a guaranteed contract confirms he's well aware (and in agreement) of this void at the one. The team's final roster spot should be up for grabs. With that in mind, Ron Baker and Chasson Randle are coming for it. It's either young gun's spot to win. Depending on how things shake out as camp progresses, it should be Marshall Plumlee or Maurice Ndour's to lose.

Each of the above big men may boast more intrigue and arguably even pure talent than a guy like Lou Amundson. However, Amundson's veteran contract costs more to let go, and the team appears to value veteran leadership and continuity on this roster. His tenure and seniority provides him with an advantage.

As far as Baker and Randle are concerned, Randle is more of a pure point guard. Similarly to Rose and Jennings, he ikes to penetrate, which can open things up for those around him on the floor. Potentially subbing him in, if need be, would allow the Knicks to execute the same style of play. It'd be nice to see him play well in camp and the preseason and really make a run at this final spot.

A higher level of competition this time of year is very healthy, because it makes guys hungrier. Randle would obviously fit a more pressing need. Knowing that in itself could light the fire under guys like Plumlee and Ndour and force them to show everyone what they're made of. No one toward the end of the roster is safe, but that's how it should be.

bye lou,

Yup, bye Lou. Would rather keep N'Dour, Randle. Maybe Phil finds more frontcourt help as the season progresses.

Definitely. Those are the two I want as well: N'Dour and Randle. I've always considered N'Dour a keeper regardless, even if he played poorly in training camp/preseason for whatever reason (nice to see that isn't the case so far -- looks like he's showing well and Hornacek likes him. Plus, we already know Phil, Gaines and co. like him a lot too: http://dailyknicks.com/2016/10/01/new-york-knicks-jeff-hornacek-maurice-ndour/). Absolutely LOVE that dude's energy and effectiveness/potential on both ends. There's been talk about Cheese playing some SG at times in certain matchups -- I actually think N'Dour might be even more capable to slide over to that position. I like Kuz a lot but it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see N'Dour quickly develop into the better player and get the most minutes out of those two...And yeah, Randle should be the 15th man, just on necessity alone (obvious need for more PG depth). I would love to keep this kid Baker too somehow. Signing Vujacic hurt his chances.. Maybe they have a strategy with Plumlee--they already paid him handsomely, surprising considering he went undrafted and isn't the most skilled big man around. But with the money issue out of the way, maybe he'd agree to go to Westchester full-time for the time being, which could then leave a spot open on the 15-man for Baker. Maybe that's the plan.

Ditto. I was sold on N'Dour in last year's SL, was PO'd Phil didn't sign him, worked out anyway. Loved how he was always trying to affect the game in some way, high energy player.

What struck me as well were his post game interviews, a great deal of enthusiasm, most of his comments were about the team. The kind of player you want on the roster, keeping things positive, in addition to what they can do on the court. Havent seen enough of cheese and Randle to comment, but Ive seen enough of Lou to know we need to give the yoots a real shot.

GustavBahler wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knicks head coach Jeff Hornacek said the Knicks wouldn't hesitate to cut a player who has a guaranteed contract if the situation calls for it, according to Ian Begley of ESPN.

Begley noted that the Knicks have 15 players on guaranteed deals, meaning one player would have to be cut if the team wanted to keep a player on a partially-guaranteed deal.

Keith Schlosser, SNY.TV Twitter | Archive

Derrick Rose and Brandon Jennings are about as strong of a one-two punch at point guard as there is in the league, but the Knicks can't win on talent alone. Chemistry and stamina will come into play as well.

Obviously the aforementioned pair has had their fair share of injuries in recent seasons. New York can hope for the best, but some added depth wouldn't hurt. As camp continues, it should be considered a crucial need.

Hornacek suggesting the Knicks aren't afraid to shed a guaranteed contract confirms he's well aware (and in agreement) of this void at the one. The team's final roster spot should be up for grabs. With that in mind, Ron Baker and Chasson Randle are coming for it. It's either young gun's spot to win. Depending on how things shake out as camp progresses, it should be Marshall Plumlee or Maurice Ndour's to lose.

Each of the above big men may boast more intrigue and arguably even pure talent than a guy like Lou Amundson. However, Amundson's veteran contract costs more to let go, and the team appears to value veteran leadership and continuity on this roster. His tenure and seniority provides him with an advantage.

As far as Baker and Randle are concerned, Randle is more of a pure point guard. Similarly to Rose and Jennings, he ikes to penetrate, which can open things up for those around him on the floor. Potentially subbing him in, if need be, would allow the Knicks to execute the same style of play. It'd be nice to see him play well in camp and the preseason and really make a run at this final spot.

A higher level of competition this time of year is very healthy, because it makes guys hungrier. Randle would obviously fit a more pressing need. Knowing that in itself could light the fire under guys like Plumlee and Ndour and force them to show everyone what they're made of. No one toward the end of the roster is safe, but that's how it should be.

bye lou,

Yup, bye Lou. Would rather keep N'Dour, Randle. Maybe Phil finds more frontcourt help as the season progresses.

Definitely. Those are the two I want as well: N'Dour and Randle. I've always considered N'Dour a keeper regardless, even if he played poorly in training camp/preseason for whatever reason (nice to see that isn't the case so far -- looks like he's showing well and Hornacek likes him. Plus, we already know Phil, Gaines and co. like him a lot too: http://dailyknicks.com/2016/10/01/new-york-knicks-jeff-hornacek-maurice-ndour/). Absolutely LOVE that dude's energy and effectiveness/potential on both ends. There's been talk about Cheese playing some SG at times in certain matchups -- I actually think N'Dour might be even more capable to slide over to that position. I like Kuz a lot but it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see N'Dour quickly develop into the better player and get the most minutes out of those two...And yeah, Randle should be the 15th man, just on necessity alone (obvious need for more PG depth). I would love to keep this kid Baker too somehow. Signing Vujacic hurt his chances.. Maybe they have a strategy with Plumlee--they already paid him handsomely, surprising considering he went undrafted and isn't the most skilled big man around. But with the money issue out of the way, maybe he'd agree to go to Westchester full-time for the time being, which could then leave a spot open on the 15-man for Baker. Maybe that's the plan.

Ditto. I was sold on N'Dour in last year's SL, was PO'd Phil didn't sign him, worked out anyway. Loved how he was always trying to affect the game in some way, high energy player.

What struck me as well were his post game interviews, a great deal of enthusiasm, most of his comments were about the team. The kind of player you want on the roster, keeping things positive, in addition to what they can do on the court. Havent seen enough of cheese and Randle to comment, but Ive seen enough of Lou to know we need to give the yoots a real shot.

Agree 100% Gus.