knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:It's not out of the question to see some significant growth from our young players next season. I can see them having a more positive impact after another summer of work and growth. They don't have to become superstars overnight to actually contribute to wins next season.

MELO is the only player in a hurry to win a title. The rest of the youth on the team has a much longer timeline. I think that Phil has shifted the focus of the team already. It's a more forward looking roster and will likely continue in that direction this summer. Phil is under no compunction to bend towards MELO's desires. If MELO is unhappy he can ask for a trade.

that's your thinking, I know damn well phill did't recently tell melo were going to focus on the developing of the young guns and your just here for the ride..

Galloway looked much better last season, so that tells you what direction we are going in

Phil wouldn't have to say anything as insulting as that! Just looking at things practically it's a low chance that we'll add players this summer that suddenly make this a title team so in essence what I suggest above is the only logical conclusion!

Using Gallo's season as an argument is weak IMO. The team got younger and will get younger still this summer! Wroten is an example! Willy is probably coming! I'm sure Phil will buy or trade for a pick as he often does. We still have camp invites that may make the team. I don't even know if Phil will use all of his cap space this summer or rather save some for 2017.

WROTEn IS A 4 YR VET, and is not that young, grant is 24, so how young are we

Wroten is going on 23! Jerian being 24 doesn't make him an old grizzled vet! The team is going to lose older guys and bring in younger players, so YES the team is getting younger.

Wroten is the second youngest guy on the team.

I know it's hard for some to accept but Wroten is young! He's also been in some bad situations for a young developing player. Plus when Willy comes in and we bring in Camp invites, the team is very likely to get even younger.

we just got all of our vets, so how much younger are you talking here

All what vets? There are going to be some old guys not coming back.

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Once the playoffs became unrealistic a smartly run team would have preserved Melo, experimented with an offense revolving around Porzingis and Grant’s skills, and used two or three roster spots to try to find cheap talent to add to the team gong forward.

Preserve Melo for what? Another 29 win Larry Brown season? Hey, Mr. aptly named BGibberman, welcome to New York City, where we have all the patience of a microwave with the runs. Where every other line in every rag in this city is "THIRD YEAR WITHOUT THE PLAYOFFS". I love this line of logic. Preserve Melo, like adopting the Popovich approach is going to suddenly make Melo more attractive to other teams. "Hey look, our hands down best player is now going to sit the bench two or three times a week, and we're also instituting a nice minutes restriction! But please, don't take that to mean he's not worth that huge investment we made in him! Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled first round draft picks....pretty please...?"

Grant's skills? What exactly are those at this point? Being 6'6" with a fine lineage?

Preserve Melo for the physical for when we trade him after he waives his No Trade Clause.

are you confident that the kknicks can trade melo into something better..give me a time in the last 2 decades, that the knicks made a good move, trading their best player usually results in a even more fck up contract, weak role players, and garbage draft picks like nate robinson, ariza, sweetney, frye..oh gosh the list will never end

It's not about getting equal value at this point, his trade value is rapidly diminishing by the day. It's about getting something before it equals nothing and before he experiences a career ending injury, which is very possible.

We're not winning a championship during Melo's remaining 3 years, this is already fact. We may not even make the playoffs in 3 years, this is debatable, but not far off since the rest of the East has gotten better.

We need to move on, and acquire young talent, hungry vets, and hit home runs in the draft. We show steady improvement with KP, add some studs in the lottery hopefully, then swing for the fences with key free agents in 2018 and beyond.

That's what it's all about right now.

Doesn't matter what route we take, we all depend on the same amount of luck and hope. As shown in the other thread, I can sell just as many dreams. Knicks need to put more focus on being a stable org rather then one changing Directions, Players, Coaches, GMs, Prez every couple of yrs.

What your proposing is what every team in the league who goes full rebuild tries to accomplish. What is the success rate though?

Wariors, Spurs, Heat, Mavs, Lakers, Celtics, Pistons have won the championships over the last 10-11yrs. How many of them followed this plan of to winning a championship?

Warriors - Curry, Thompson, Green, Barnes

Spurs - Duncan, Manu, Parker, Kawhi

Lakers - Kobe, Bynum and then went after free agents

Celtics - Pierce endured several long years in Boston, before they mortgaged several of their young talent and picks for Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen, then proceeded to draft a gem in Rondo

In fact, if Melo's amenable, he should take a page out of KG's playbook since he was also 31 at the time he was traded to Celtics. It's Melo only real shot at winning.

Long story short, besides the few instances in Detroit and Miami superfriending, you need some draft studs and young assets before you can either sprinkle free agents to get there or make a blockbuster trade.

Knicks only have 1 young stud asset. Need to accumulate more.

lol this reads exactly like my posts from 5-10yrs ago.

Still waiting while the Knicks keep trying to patch up the roster with bandaids.