WaltLongmire wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Intriguing stuff...my gut feeling is that there is a ring of truth to it.

This has Lebron's fingerprints on it, IMO.

Have to figure he is desperate to win another title, and doesn't think Love can help him get it. The losses to GS were wake-up calls, no doubt.

He's great friends with Carmelo, and you figure he threw the idea out to Melo after Fisher got canned. James gets a player he trusts and respects, while Anthony can be the great complimentary player that he is when on our National teams.

Celtics have a pretty good group of players, and they seem to believe that Love can still be a valuable player.

I'd want Brooklyn's pick and a #1 for the next draft, and some of their 2nd round picks. I assume that we would also have to take back some contracts...No?

This trade sounds plausible, and it sounds like it centers around GS' greatness, James not loving Love, and Anthony's desperation with his situation.

To dismiss this rumor outright would be foolish.

I doubt we are getting the Nets pick. I bet its Cleveland's future late 1st rd picks. The best we can hope for is that they are unprotected. Maybe some Boston picks but not this years first when they have a shot at Simmons. I'm fine either way. This is about hitting the reset button and doing it in a realistic manor. I'm sure people thought we'd get more than the 60th pick in 2019 for Shumpert & JR too

The payoff in that trade was getting rid of Smith, who could have been playing with us this year if he had not been traded.

Cavs gave up two 1st rounders for Mosgov, because they were desperate for a center...

Cavs gave up the top pick in the draft and more for Love, who they though they needed.

We got a #19 for Hardaway, because Atlanta believed he could be important for their future.

If this trade rumor is true, The Cavs (a.k.a. Lebron) clearly believe they are a player away (Love) from being able to defeat GS (or SA) IN THE FINALS, and the Celtics believe that Love might allow them to take the next step in the EC.

Cleveland and the Celtics are the teams in need...we would be the facilitator in this 3 way, and we would be giving up our "star," a player we signed to a big contract instead of looking at other players in FA.

We would look like fools if we took back late Cleveland #1 picks, which were probably given up for Mosgov, anyway, so are not available.

Seems to me that we are the ones needed to make this trade go...so we should we benefit. Cavs in a win now mode, and we have what they want...and Boston seems to believe that the Cavs have what they need. We should get as much as we can if this is the case.

Would you give up lottery picks for a guy who is 32 and missed a boatload of games the past 2yrs with with bad knees? Sure I'd love that Nets pick and some but usually it's only the Knicks who give up lottery picks for damaged goods. Wiggins for Love was a huge mistake by Lebron & Cleveland but at least it was justified as Love was only 25 & putting up 20 & 12.

Cleveland and GM Lebron ever been good at at targeting players in trades and free agency. They've been bailed out by the draft. In this case Cleveland can benefit from adding this version of Olympic Melo without losing significant picks so this is very intriguing for all sides. Not 100% sold on Boston having interest in Love but they do have a boatload of picks and are the one team that can take him on. So hopefully we we can get the Nets pick or any other lottery picks they acquired. However if it came down to only getting a few of their own picks in the 15 range, 2nd rd pick from them and Cleveland I would still do the deal. We may not draft KP's running mate unless we get lucky but we will have ample cap space and KP to attrack significant FA's

Hard to understand how certain coaches, GMs and owners are feeling.

Cavs have a window of opportunity, and in some ways Anthony fits through that window nicely.

Celtics have a bunch of number ones, but also have a team on the rise right now that has a legitimate chance to earn a top 4 spot in the playoffs...they have to decide whether Love fits into their plans and can take them to the next level. The story is that they wanted to sign him, but he stayed with the Cavs. Now they have a chance to get him.

We would be losing Anthony and probably taking on contracts from the other teams.

Phil has to be strong if this rumor has any legs, and if we are the only other team who can help facilitate the deal, he needs to get the Brooklyn pick any way he can, IMO.

Melo has already turned down this trade. I don't think he wants to go to Cleveland to win a ring in Lebron's shadow. I think the only place he'd go would be the Clippers with CP3.

Knicks could work a very similar trade there, routing Blake to the Celtics for the same sort of package. Probably get more out of Boston for Blake than for Love anyway.

But it is sounding like if anything happens on this front, it'll be the summer.

nixluva wrote:Well it was a very interesting trade! Now I guess we can go back to our regular scheduled program. LOL
Phil still needs to find a way to add guard help, so I hope that happens if this trade never materializes.

EXACTLY. lol. melo insisted that he wants to stay in nyc. dammit!

martin wrote:As complicated as it would be, NY should try to get Toronto involved in this. Make them ante up some how; moving Melo only means the pick they have of ours goes from mediocre to something very worthwhile.

I often thought about that angle as to giving us incentive to tank.

I remember last year Love visiting fenway park and hanging with Rondo sparking rumors about Loves pending free agency and the Celtics. Love still a 20 and 10 guy, still young? Handsome kid and very marketable.

Problem is Melo don't play ball if he don't want to be there.

Miami seems logical. But I don't have a source for this.

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:As complicated as it would be, NY should try to get Toronto involved in this. Make them ante up some how; moving Melo only means the pick they have of ours goes from mediocre to something very worthwhile.

I often thought about that angle as to giving us incentive to tank.

I remember last year Love visiting fenway park and hanging with Rondo sparking rumors about Loves pending free agency and the Celtics. Love still a 20 and 10 guy, still young? Handsome kid and very marketable.

Problem is Melo don't play ball if he don't want to be there.

Miami seems logical. But I don't have a source for this.

Miami only seems logical to me from Lala's perspective, no one else's.

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:As complicated as it would be, NY should try to get Toronto involved in this. Make them ante up some how; moving Melo only means the pick they have of ours goes from mediocre to something very worthwhile.

I often thought about that angle as to giving us incentive to tank.

I remember last year Love visiting fenway park and hanging with Rondo sparking rumors about Loves pending free agency and the Celtics. Love still a 20 and 10 guy, still young? Handsome kid and very marketable.

Problem is Melo don't play ball if he don't want to be there.

Miami seems logical. But I don't have a source for this.

Miami only seems logical to me from Lala's perspective, no one else's.

I still say the Clippers and CP3 is the only move that would REALLY tempt Melo. Play with CP3, be in LA for he and Lala. They'd have a puncher's chance at beating the Warriors.

Is putting Melo on the Cavs really going to beat the Warriors? And he'd be in Cleveland.

Miami is an also ran, basketball wise. Wade is on his list leg, Bosh is not a difference maker.

Melo on Cavs puts them in the finals and that's all you can ask for. Green can only guard one of LeBron, Melo.

crzymdups wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Intriguing stuff...my gut feeling is that there is a ring of truth to it.

This has Lebron's fingerprints on it, IMO.

Have to figure he is desperate to win another title, and doesn't think Love can help him get it. The losses to GS were wake-up calls, no doubt.

He's great friends with Carmelo, and you figure he threw the idea out to Melo after Fisher got canned. James gets a player he trusts and respects, while Anthony can be the great complimentary player that he is when on our National teams.

Celtics have a pretty good group of players, and they seem to believe that Love can still be a valuable player.

I'd want Brooklyn's pick and a #1 for the next draft, and some of their 2nd round picks. I assume that we would also have to take back some contracts...No?

This trade sounds plausible, and it sounds like it centers around GS' greatness, James not loving Love, and Anthony's desperation with his situation.

To dismiss this rumor outright would be foolish.

I doubt we are getting the Nets pick. I bet its Cleveland's future late 1st rd picks. The best we can hope for is that they are unprotected. Maybe some Boston picks but not this years first when they have a shot at Simmons. I'm fine either way. This is about hitting the reset button and doing it in a realistic manor. I'm sure people thought we'd get more than the 60th pick in 2019 for Shumpert & JR too

The payoff in that trade was getting rid of Smith, who could have been playing with us this year if he had not been traded.

Cavs gave up two 1st rounders for Mosgov, because they were desperate for a center...

Cavs gave up the top pick in the draft and more for Love, who they though they needed.

We got a #19 for Hardaway, because Atlanta believed he could be important for their future.

If this trade rumor is true, The Cavs (a.k.a. Lebron) clearly believe they are a player away (Love) from being able to defeat GS (or SA) IN THE FINALS, and the Celtics believe that Love might allow them to take the next step in the EC.

Cleveland and the Celtics are the teams in need...we would be the facilitator in this 3 way, and we would be giving up our "star," a player we signed to a big contract instead of looking at other players in FA.

We would look like fools if we took back late Cleveland #1 picks, which were probably given up for Mosgov, anyway, so are not available.

Seems to me that we are the ones needed to make this trade go...so we should we benefit. Cavs in a win now mode, and we have what they want...and Boston seems to believe that the Cavs have what they need. We should get as much as we can if this is the case.

Would you give up lottery picks for a guy who is 32 and missed a boatload of games the past 2yrs with with bad knees? Sure I'd love that Nets pick and some but usually it's only the Knicks who give up lottery picks for damaged goods. Wiggins for Love was a huge mistake by Lebron & Cleveland but at least it was justified as Love was only 25 & putting up 20 & 12.

Cleveland and GM Lebron ever been good at at targeting players in trades and free agency. They've been bailed out by the draft. In this case Cleveland can benefit from adding this version of Olympic Melo without losing significant picks so this is very intriguing for all sides. Not 100% sold on Boston having interest in Love but they do have a boatload of picks and are the one team that can take him on. So hopefully we we can get the Nets pick or any other lottery picks they acquired. However if it came down to only getting a few of their own picks in the 15 range, 2nd rd pick from them and Cleveland I would still do the deal. We may not draft KP's running mate unless we get lucky but we will have ample cap space and KP to attrack significant FA's

Hard to understand how certain coaches, GMs and owners are feeling.

Cavs have a window of opportunity, and in some ways Anthony fits through that window nicely.

Celtics have a bunch of number ones, but also have a team on the rise right now that has a legitimate chance to earn a top 4 spot in the playoffs...they have to decide whether Love fits into their plans and can take them to the next level. The story is that they wanted to sign him, but he stayed with the Cavs. Now they have a chance to get him.

We would be losing Anthony and probably taking on contracts from the other teams.

Phil has to be strong if this rumor has any legs, and if we are the only other team who can help facilitate the deal, he needs to get the Brooklyn pick any way he can, IMO.

Melo has already turned down this trade. I don't think he wants to go to Cleveland to win a ring in Lebron's shadow. I think the only place he'd go would be the Clippers with CP3.

Knicks could work a very similar trade there, routing Blake to the Celtics for the same sort of package. Probably get more out of Boston for Blake than for Love anyway.

But it is sounding like if anything happens on this front, it'll be the summer.

Unfortunately you made a good point. He may not want to win in Lebron's shadow but maybe he is close enough friends with Lebron and it would sway him. It is unlikely this happens because after he weighs all these things especially moving his family again makes this very unlikely.

yellowboy90 wrote:What I don't understand is how is got this far with fans. Did anyone actual read the article or did they just look at the tweet?

This is why I said is was a click bait article last night.

People forget that Melo has always took the position that he was against moving his young son out of school. Also, financially it is better for him to wait because his trade kicker will go up as the cap explodes.

I think Melo will wait until this summer see what NY does and then consult with his peoples.

I enjoy the week before the trade deadline- think people are just having fun speculating. To be honest I can't really remember the last time a speculated deal actually happened- seems the deals that do get done tend to come out of the blue.

martin wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:As complicated as it would be, NY should try to get Toronto involved in this. Make them ante up some how; moving Melo only means the pick they have of ours goes from mediocre to something very worthwhile.

I often thought about that angle as to giving us incentive to tank.

I remember last year Love visiting fenway park and hanging with Rondo sparking rumors about Loves pending free agency and the Celtics. Love still a 20 and 10 guy, still young? Handsome kid and very marketable.

Problem is Melo don't play ball if he don't want to be there.

Miami seems logical. But I don't have a source for this.

Miami only seems logical to me from Lala's perspective, no one else's.

I still say the Clippers and CP3 is the only move that would REALLY tempt Melo. Play with CP3, be in LA for he and Lala. They'd have a puncher's chance at beating the Warriors.

Is putting Melo on the Cavs really going to beat the Warriors? And he'd be in Cleveland.

Miami is an also ran, basketball wise. Wade is on his list leg, Bosh is not a difference maker.

Melo on Cavs puts them in the finals and that's all you can ask for. Green can only guard one of LeBron, Melo.

what about on the other end..Everyone on GS contributes and Knows there roll. Are you telling me relying on JR and shump in the playoffs is a good thing