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nixluva
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2/13/2016  12:35 PM
crzymdups wrote:
callmened wrote:but you just said it...they "lack the right ingredients"...Melo is getting older. i just think he has a better chance on winning elsewhere - specifically on a team with better ingredients.

True. But again it's Melo's decision

I also think MELO is the kind of player that will age well. His game is mostly a skill game and with younger players around him he will be fine. No one is saying it's easy but it is possible to improve this team from where it is and MELO seems to want to stay and be part of it.

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2/13/2016  12:43 PM
if he didnt have knee problems then i would agree. 90% of athletes with that particular surgery (Patellofemoral tendon debridement) need a 2nd surgery.
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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2/13/2016  12:44 PM
nixluva wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
CashMoney wrote:Bottom line is that Melo doesn't care about winning. If he did he would have went to the Bulls during free agency. I believe Melo would be a great fit with LBJ in Cleveland but there is no way Melo would agree to go to Cleveland. I read something some time ago where Melo said that when he goes to Cleveland on road trips he doesn't leave the hotel.

He's here to stay fells. Guess he feels that NYC is the best place for his "brand."

You're assuming quite a lot here. Maybe Melo would rather win in NY than go to Cleveland. Any ring in Cleveland would be Lebron bringing a chip "back to the 'Land". Maybe Melo would rather bring a chip back to NY, a place he has a connection to.

And, frankly, my parents lived outside Cleveland for three years and it was terrible. I wouldn't want to live there. It's one of the most depressing cities I've ever visited.

The problem is Melo is not going to win in NY. He's already breaking down and as each year passes he's another year older. No draft picks this year but cap room. Another problem is that no one looks like they want to play for the Knicks.

I'm a Melo fan but he's not a fit for the Knicks. We are no where close to putting together a championship roster anytime soon. Melo moved to Baltimore when he was 8. He has as much of a connection to the Wizards as he does the Knicks.

We can't say MELO isn't going to win in NY. With KP already showing so much promise it's very possible this team can get going with the right additions. This team is competitive but lacking the right ingredients to get over the top. It's not impossible for them to fill their needs.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12307054/nba-free-agents-2016-2017

We need everything with the exception of SF, PF & C although I hate Lopez's contract. With the exception of KD this summer there is not a difference maker this summer. I would sign up for Conley but I don't believe the Knicks are on Conley's radar.

2017 FA Class worth mentioning
Westbrook
Tyreke Evans
Jrue Holiday
Steph Curry LOL
Taj Gibson
Derek Rose
Kyle Korver
Jeff Teague
Tiago Splitter

Hard to add in FA when there are only scraps.

KP is legit but he still has a way to go to even be a consistent number 2. Maybe next year he can average 16 PPG but realistically he's still at least 2-3 more years away from an 18-20 PPG Player.

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2/13/2016  1:16 PM
callmened wrote:if he didnt have knee problems then i would agree. 90% of athletes with that particular surgery (Patellofemoral tendon debridement) need a 2nd surgery.

I didn't know that. That's not good.
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2/13/2016  1:22 PM
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
callmened wrote:but you just said it...they "lack the right ingredients"...Melo is getting older. i just think he has a better chance on winning elsewhere - specifically on a team with better ingredients.

True. But again it's Melo's decision

I also think MELO is the kind of player that will age well. His game is mostly a skill game and with younger players around him he will be fine. No one is saying it's easy but it is possible to improve this team from where it is and MELO seems to want to stay and be part of it.

i dont necessarily agree. Melo has a TON of miles on him. His knee is already messed up and probably will get worse. Like i said before i have been happy with him play this year but it makes more sense to do this trade considering where we are at as a team and www dont have any draft picks
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2/13/2016  4:27 PM
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nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
callmened wrote:but you just said it...they "lack the right ingredients"...Melo is getting older. i just think he has a better chance on winning elsewhere - specifically on a team with better ingredients.

True. But again it's Melo's decision

I also think MELO is the kind of player that will age well. His game is mostly a skill game and with younger players around him he will be fine. No one is saying it's easy but it is possible to improve this team from where it is and MELO seems to want to stay and be part of it.

i dont necessarily agree. Melo has a TON of miles on him. His knee is already messed up and probably will get worse. Like i said before i have been happy with him play this year but it makes more sense to do this trade considering where we are at as a team and www dont have any draft picks

This team isn't really that far off despite the recent losing. It may be frustrating to endure but there's also no reason to panic either. I think Melo has a chance to still be helpful to this team and his knee is of course going to have a Time Limit on it, but he was expected to have some periods of soreness and Fish did push him too hard. Melo may in fact end up needed another knee procedure as many end up needing with this type of knee issue. That doesn't mean he's not going to be able to play a lot longer in his career, tho a bit diminished. If Melo stays it's really gonna be about how they address the guard spots. Improve at the guard spots and this is a TOTALLY different team.

There will be opportunities to improve the guard spots and really that along with internal growth of our young players is gonna be the key. The better the roster is around him the less Melo has to push himself. There should be no need to have Melo log heavy minutes in order to win games. The key will be improving at the guard spots IMO.

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2/13/2016  4:44 PM
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
callmened wrote:but you just said it...they "lack the right ingredients"...Melo is getting older. i just think he has a better chance on winning elsewhere - specifically on a team with better ingredients.

True. But again it's Melo's decision

I also think MELO is the kind of player that will age well. His game is mostly a skill game and with younger players around him he will be fine. No one is saying it's easy but it is possible to improve this team from where it is and MELO seems to want to stay and be part of it.

i dont necessarily agree. Melo has a TON of miles on him. His knee is already messed up and probably will get worse. Like i said before i have been happy with him play this year but it makes more sense to do this trade considering where we are at as a team and www dont have any draft picks

This team isn't really that far off despite the recent losing. It may be frustrating to endure but there's also no reason to panic either. I think Melo has a chance to still be helpful to this team and his knee is of course going to have a Time Limit on it, but he was expected to have some periods of soreness and Fish did push him too hard. Melo may in fact end up needed another knee procedure as many end up needing with this type of knee issue. That doesn't mean he's not going to be able to play a lot longer in his career, tho a bit diminished. If Melo stays it's really gonna be about how they address the guard spots. Improve at the guard spots and this is a TOTALLY different team.

There will be opportunities to improve the guard spots and really that along with internal growth of our young players is gonna be the key. The better the roster is around him the less Melo has to push himself. There should be no need to have Melo log heavy minutes in order to win games. The key will be improving at the guard spots IMO.

who said panic? Nobody said melo isnt helpful, in fact most are happy with his play. However there are other factors to at least consider a trade. The knee is a issue thats just reality. Also his contract is a big one. Im not saying to trade him BUT if we are getting back picks and a good young player it would be dumb to dismiss it
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2/13/2016  4:49 PM
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
callmened wrote:but you just said it...they "lack the right ingredients"...Melo is getting older. i just think he has a better chance on winning elsewhere - specifically on a team with better ingredients.

True. But again it's Melo's decision

I also think MELO is the kind of player that will age well. His game is mostly a skill game and with younger players around him he will be fine. No one is saying it's easy but it is possible to improve this team from where it is and MELO seems to want to stay and be part of it.

i dont necessarily agree. Melo has a TON of miles on him. His knee is already messed up and probably will get worse. Like i said before i have been happy with him play this year but it makes more sense to do this trade considering where we are at as a team and www dont have any draft picks

This team isn't really that far off despite the recent losing. It may be frustrating to endure but there's also no reason to panic either. I think Melo has a chance to still be helpful to this team and his knee is of course going to have a Time Limit on it, but he was expected to have some periods of soreness and Fish did push him too hard. Melo may in fact end up needed another knee procedure as many end up needing with this type of knee issue. That doesn't mean he's not going to be able to play a lot longer in his career, tho a bit diminished. If Melo stays it's really gonna be about how they address the guard spots. Improve at the guard spots and this is a TOTALLY different team.

There will be opportunities to improve the guard spots and really that along with internal growth of our young players is gonna be the key. The better the roster is around him the less Melo has to push himself. There should be no need to have Melo log heavy minutes in order to win games. The key will be improving at the guard spots IMO.


Not that far off from what? We're in 12th place out of 15 teams in our conference.
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2/13/2016  6:47 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
callmened wrote:but you just said it...they "lack the right ingredients"...Melo is getting older. i just think he has a better chance on winning elsewhere - specifically on a team with better ingredients.

True. But again it's Melo's decision

I also think MELO is the kind of player that will age well. His game is mostly a skill game and with younger players around him he will be fine. No one is saying it's easy but it is possible to improve this team from where it is and MELO seems to want to stay and be part of it.

i dont necessarily agree. Melo has a TON of miles on him. His knee is already messed up and probably will get worse. Like i said before i have been happy with him play this year but it makes more sense to do this trade considering where we are at as a team and www dont have any draft picks

This team isn't really that far off despite the recent losing. It may be frustrating to endure but there's also no reason to panic either. I think Melo has a chance to still be helpful to this team and his knee is of course going to have a Time Limit on it, but he was expected to have some periods of soreness and Fish did push him too hard. Melo may in fact end up needed another knee procedure as many end up needing with this type of knee issue. That doesn't mean he's not going to be able to play a lot longer in his career, tho a bit diminished. If Melo stays it's really gonna be about how they address the guard spots. Improve at the guard spots and this is a TOTALLY different team.

There will be opportunities to improve the guard spots and really that along with internal growth of our young players is gonna be the key. The better the roster is around him the less Melo has to push himself. There should be no need to have Melo log heavy minutes in order to win games. The key will be improving at the guard spots IMO.


Not that far off from what? We're in 12th place out of 15 teams in our conference.

bonnie downer?? Be happy that we are not 15th.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/13/2016  7:54 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
callmened wrote:but you just said it...they "lack the right ingredients"...Melo is getting older. i just think he has a better chance on winning elsewhere - specifically on a team with better ingredients.

True. But again it's Melo's decision

I also think MELO is the kind of player that will age well. His game is mostly a skill game and with younger players around him he will be fine. No one is saying it's easy but it is possible to improve this team from where it is and MELO seems to want to stay and be part of it.

i dont necessarily agree. Melo has a TON of miles on him. His knee is already messed up and probably will get worse. Like i said before i have been happy with him play this year but it makes more sense to do this trade considering where we are at as a team and www dont have any draft picks

This team isn't really that far off despite the recent losing. It may be frustrating to endure but there's also no reason to panic either. I think Melo has a chance to still be helpful to this team and his knee is of course going to have a Time Limit on it, but he was expected to have some periods of soreness and Fish did push him too hard. Melo may in fact end up needed another knee procedure as many end up needing with this type of knee issue. That doesn't mean he's not going to be able to play a lot longer in his career, tho a bit diminished. If Melo stays it's really gonna be about how they address the guard spots. Improve at the guard spots and this is a TOTALLY different team.

There will be opportunities to improve the guard spots and really that along with internal growth of our young players is gonna be the key. The better the roster is around him the less Melo has to push himself. There should be no need to have Melo log heavy minutes in order to win games. The key will be improving at the guard spots IMO.


Not that far off from what? We're in 12th place out of 15 teams in our conference.

So you're gonna just ignore the fact that we clearly have issues at guard that hold the team back? The record doesn't tell you what is needed to make a significant improvement for this team. It doesn't tell you how many close losses the team had while they were stumbling along with injuries and Coaching issues in the last 11 games. IMO it's not a team that is bad in every area. It needs to be improved at the guard spots!!! The team is fine at the Forward and Center spots. To be weak at guard is a horrible problem in a league with so many dangerous guards.

This is where we lose games. This team has competed and battled in many of these games. We just saw how a John Wall, Isaiah Thomas, Ish Smith, Reggie Jackson, Kemba Walker, Kyle Lowry, Emanuel Mudiay and Chris Paul have all abused this team in the last 11 games. Those losses really defined the source of this team's inability to get over the top. So when I say not far off, I'm saying that the biggest hole is at the guard spot and so filling that hole is one thing that can make the biggest improvement for this team.

Melo getting closer to reconsidering Knicks future

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