ChuckBuck wrote:

dk7th wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:trade which melo? the one that played here prior to this season or the one that is playing great since the arrival of kp?

What difference does it make? Trade the former you also traded the latter.

Correct. You trade both Melos, especially today's DadMelo to get some value back, so you can finally move forward as a franchise.

you're really getting carried away. melo is a very valuable player right now. i enjoy watching him play for the first time. the issue is the unfortunately-titled thread. seems like trying to stir up trouble where it just isn't warranted.

the issue is that we have not seen this melo ever before, so why pretend otherwise, which is why the thread-starter is a wee bit gratuitous and jejune.

I don't mind Melo's play right now. It's all the critics ever wanted from him from the get go.

From George Karl, from Mike D'Antoni, from Mike Woodson. They all wanted this version of Melo.

Someone that's a willing distributor that picks their spots to take over, and play defense on every possesion, not when they feel like it.

Anyone that thinks Melo's always played this way in the past is just delusional biased rose tinted glasses homer liars.

who thinks melo has played this way in the past? obviously hes changed his game up a bit and has started trusting his teammates much more than he ever has. i don't think there is a person on this board denying that.

nyk4ever wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

dk7th wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:trade which melo? the one that played here prior to this season or the one that is playing great since the arrival of kp?

What difference does it make? Trade the former you also traded the latter.

Correct. You trade both Melos, especially today's DadMelo to get some value back, so you can finally move forward as a franchise.

you're really getting carried away. melo is a very valuable player right now. i enjoy watching him play for the first time. the issue is the unfortunately-titled thread. seems like trying to stir up trouble where it just isn't warranted.

the issue is that we have not seen this melo ever before, so why pretend otherwise, which is why the thread-starter is a wee bit gratuitous and jejune.

I don't mind Melo's play right now. It's all the critics ever wanted from him from the get go.

From George Karl, from Mike D'Antoni, from Mike Woodson. They all wanted this version of Melo.

Someone that's a willing distributor that picks their spots to take over, and play defense on every possesion, not when they feel like it.

Anyone that thinks Melo's always played this way in the past is just delusional biased rose tinted glasses homer liars.

who thinks melo has played this way in the past? obviously hes changed his game up a bit and has started trusting his teammates much more than he ever has. i don't think there is a person on this board denying that.

There's a small segment in here that think Melo's always played like this, just his supporting cast has changed. That he's been passing as much as he is now and playing D, but the guys around him weren't good enough.

That is obviously patently wrong.

ChuckBuck wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

dk7th wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:trade which melo? the one that played here prior to this season or the one that is playing great since the arrival of kp?

What difference does it make? Trade the former you also traded the latter.

Correct. You trade both Melos, especially today's DadMelo to get some value back, so you can finally move forward as a franchise.

you're really getting carried away. melo is a very valuable player right now. i enjoy watching him play for the first time. the issue is the unfortunately-titled thread. seems like trying to stir up trouble where it just isn't warranted.

the issue is that we have not seen this melo ever before, so why pretend otherwise, which is why the thread-starter is a wee bit gratuitous and jejune.

I don't mind Melo's play right now. It's all the critics ever wanted from him from the get go.

From George Karl, from Mike D'Antoni, from Mike Woodson. They all wanted this version of Melo.

Someone that's a willing distributor that picks their spots to take over, and play defense on every possesion, not when they feel like it.

Anyone that thinks Melo's always played this way in the past is just delusional biased rose tinted glasses homer liars.

who thinks melo has played this way in the past? obviously hes changed his game up a bit and has started trusting his teammates much more than he ever has. i don't think there is a person on this board denying that.

There's a small segment in here that think Melo's always played like this, just his supporting cast has changed. That he's been passing as much as he is now and playing D, but the guys around him weren't good enough.

That is obviously patently wrong.

But more importantly, why is it relevant?

Porzingis is an awesome rookie who would be good without Melo and will someday be great without him.

Melo is a very good player who had been hurt by his own hand and his circumstances in the past.

Porzingis is likely better with Melo than without and that will likely be true for some time.

Melo is likely better with Porzingis and to other lesser degrees Lopez and Afflalo.

Knicks are improving and likely at their best this year and next with Porzingis and Melo.

These things can all be true at the same time. Why is the minutiae of it so important?

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

dk7th wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:trade which melo? the one that played here prior to this season or the one that is playing great since the arrival of kp?

What difference does it make? Trade the former you also traded the latter.

Correct. You trade both Melos, especially today's DadMelo to get some value back, so you can finally move forward as a franchise.

you're really getting carried away. melo is a very valuable player right now. i enjoy watching him play for the first time. the issue is the unfortunately-titled thread. seems like trying to stir up trouble where it just isn't warranted.

the issue is that we have not seen this melo ever before, so why pretend otherwise, which is why the thread-starter is a wee bit gratuitous and jejune.

I don't mind Melo's play right now. It's all the critics ever wanted from him from the get go.

From George Karl, from Mike D'Antoni, from Mike Woodson. They all wanted this version of Melo.

Someone that's a willing distributor that picks their spots to take over, and play defense on every possesion, not when they feel like it.

Anyone that thinks Melo's always played this way in the past is just delusional biased rose tinted glasses homer liars.

who thinks melo has played this way in the past? obviously hes changed his game up a bit and has started trusting his teammates much more than he ever has. i don't think there is a person on this board denying that.

There's a small segment in here that think Melo's always played like this, just his supporting cast has changed. That he's been passing as much as he is now and playing D, but the guys around him weren't good enough.

That is obviously patently wrong.

But more importantly, why is it relevant?

Porzingis is an awesome rookie who would be good without Melo and will someday be great without him.

Melo is a very good player who had been hurt by his own hand and his circumstances in the past.

Porzingis is likely better with Melo than without and that will likely be true for some time.

Melo is likely better with Porzingis and to other lesser degrees Lopez and Afflalo.

Knicks are improving and likely at their best this year and next with Porzingis and Melo.

These things can all be true at the same time. Why is the minutiae of it so important?

Shouldn't be any minutiae. Shouldn't be relevant is the whole point.

OP wanted to incite another Melo wankfest as to saying Melo's absence was the sole reason KP struggled and the Knicks lost.

It was a 1 possession game with 2 minutes left against the lowly Nets! Really this thread should never have been created.

Fair enough, but you're a big role player in this board dynamic too, consistently fixated on the minutiae of the pecking order of KP and Melo when it is not relevant and who is helping who more.

crzymdups wrote:Melo creates so much space and takes so much attention off KP. When the Nets played the Knicks at the Garden, they had to put Thad Young, their best defender, on Melo. Melo out? KP gets the other team's best defender and gets no space to operate.

Also, I think a lot of people noticed how much the defense suffered without Melo, too.

This is why keeping Melo really helps KP's development. He's not ready to be a #1 option - Melo's pressence immeasurably helps KP's game in all faucets.

Stupid post off one game -- how did KP do against Cavs first time he played without Melo? I seem to recall 24/13/4 blocks but not sure.

fishmike wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Melo creates so much space and takes so much attention off KP. When the Nets played the Knicks at the Garden, they had to put Thad Young, their best defender, on Melo. Melo out? KP gets the other team's best defender and gets no space to operate.

Also, I think a lot of people noticed how much the defense suffered without Melo, too.

This is why keeping Melo really helps KP's development. He's not ready to be a #1 option - Melo's pressence immeasurably helps KP's game in all faucets.

Good thread cause people were definitely starting the "this is KP's team" way too early. Without Melo we're back to being a average team.

below average. Cute to see Chuck clinging to his misguided and desperate notions... let me know how that works out for ya.

Everyone with a brain and eyes sees what Melo means to KP. Some just cant cope. Its bizarre but not my problem. Looking forward to Saturday.

YES and KP does nothing for Melo -- we get it.

newyorker4ever wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Also forget the missed dunks. KP shot 5-17. You are telling me he had his legs under him?

So you agree that whenever a player has a bad shooting game it's because they had tired legs?? Or is it just KP?? LOL On the gameday thread last night the only thing people were talking about was the rims were too tight but now i know that when a player has a bad shooting game it's cause their legs were tired. Thanks

Yea because the Nets tightening the iron rims is much more plausible

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

dk7th wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:trade which melo? the one that played here prior to this season or the one that is playing great since the arrival of kp?

What difference does it make? Trade the former you also traded the latter.

Correct. You trade both Melos, especially today's DadMelo to get some value back, so you can finally move forward as a franchise.

you're really getting carried away. melo is a very valuable player right now. i enjoy watching him play for the first time. the issue is the unfortunately-titled thread. seems like trying to stir up trouble where it just isn't warranted.

the issue is that we have not seen this melo ever before, so why pretend otherwise, which is why the thread-starter is a wee bit gratuitous and jejune.

I don't mind Melo's play right now. It's all the critics ever wanted from him from the get go.

From George Karl, from Mike D'Antoni, from Mike Woodson. They all wanted this version of Melo.

Someone that's a willing distributor that picks their spots to take over, and play defense on every possesion, not when they feel like it.

Anyone that thinks Melo's always played this way in the past is just delusional biased rose tinted glasses homer liars.

who thinks melo has played this way in the past? obviously hes changed his game up a bit and has started trusting his teammates much more than he ever has. i don't think there is a person on this board denying that.

There's a small segment in here that think Melo's always played like this, just his supporting cast has changed. That he's been passing as much as he is now and playing D, but the guys around him weren't good enough.

That is obviously patently wrong.

But more importantly, why is it relevant?

Porzingis is an awesome rookie who would be good without Melo and will someday be great without him.

Melo is a very good player who had been hurt by his own hand and his circumstances in the past.

Porzingis is likely better with Melo than without and that will likely be true for some time.

Melo is likely better with Porzingis and to other lesser degrees Lopez and Afflalo.

Knicks are improving and likely at their best this year and next with Porzingis and Melo.

These things can all be true at the same time. Why is the minutiae of it so important?

Shouldn't be any minutiae. Shouldn't be relevant is the whole point.

OP wanted to incite another Melo wankfest as to saying Melo's absence was the sole reason KP struggled and the Knicks lost.

It was a 1 possession game with 2 minutes left against the lowly Nets! Really this thread should never have been created.

Fair enough, but you're a big role player in this board dynamic too, consistently fixated on the minutiae of the pecking order of KP and Melo when it is not relevant and who is helping who more.

I'm all for righting wrongs. When I see a mistake I try to correct it.

You have no means to persuade others to what you see as more accurate views when you forgo credibility by hypocrisy. Responding with happy faces when this is fairly pointed out to you just undermines you more.

Stay in character then and don't point fingers at others. Yours have all been cut off long ago.

Looks like LivingLegend and gunsnewing have grown back my fingers.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

dk7th wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:trade which melo? the one that played here prior to this season or the one that is playing great since the arrival of kp?

What difference does it make? Trade the former you also traded the latter.

Correct. You trade both Melos, especially today's DadMelo to get some value back, so you can finally move forward as a franchise.

you're really getting carried away. melo is a very valuable player right now. i enjoy watching him play for the first time. the issue is the unfortunately-titled thread. seems like trying to stir up trouble where it just isn't warranted.

the issue is that we have not seen this melo ever before, so why pretend otherwise, which is why the thread-starter is a wee bit gratuitous and jejune.

I don't mind Melo's play right now. It's all the critics ever wanted from him from the get go.

From George Karl, from Mike D'Antoni, from Mike Woodson. They all wanted this version of Melo.

Someone that's a willing distributor that picks their spots to take over, and play defense on every possesion, not when they feel like it.

Anyone that thinks Melo's always played this way in the past is just delusional biased rose tinted glasses homer liars.

who thinks melo has played this way in the past? obviously hes changed his game up a bit and has started trusting his teammates much more than he ever has. i don't think there is a person on this board denying that.

There's a small segment in here that think Melo's always played like this, just his supporting cast has changed. That he's been passing as much as he is now and playing D, but the guys around him weren't good enough.

That is obviously patently wrong.

But more importantly, why is it relevant?

Porzingis is an awesome rookie who would be good without Melo and will someday be great without him.

Melo is a very good player who had been hurt by his own hand and his circumstances in the past.

Porzingis is likely better with Melo than without and that will likely be true for some time.

Melo is likely better with Porzingis and to other lesser degrees Lopez and Afflalo.

Knicks are improving and likely at their best this year and next with Porzingis and Melo.

These things can all be true at the same time. Why is the minutiae of it so important?

Shouldn't be any minutiae. Shouldn't be relevant is the whole point.

OP wanted to incite another Melo wankfest as to saying Melo's absence was the sole reason KP struggled and the Knicks lost.

It was a 1 possession game with 2 minutes left against the lowly Nets! Really this thread should never have been created.

Fair enough, but you're a big role player in this board dynamic too, consistently fixated on the minutiae of the pecking order of KP and Melo when it is not relevant and who is helping who more.

I'm all for righting wrongs. When I see a mistake I try to correct it.

You have no means to persuade others to what you see as more accurate views when you forgo credibility by hypocrisy. Responding with happy faces when this is fairly pointed out to you just undermines you more.

Stay in character then and don't point fingers at others. Yours have all been cut off long ago.

Looks like LivingLegend and gunsnewing have grown back my fingers.

Okay, are you saying there "shouldn't be any minutiae. Shouldn't be relevant is the whole point."

Or are you saying on any given day you are not fixated on the minutiae of the pecking order of Melo & KP?

Can't be both.

ChuckBuck wrote:it was an incompetent 2nd year noob coach...

Which of the 21 hasn't been?