ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Amazing how all he needed was a little help. Many of us have been saying you need to give him quality help to expect this type of result.

or maybe he needed to become a better player.

Its ok to say that melo needed to improve.

Melo is human. There are a lot of factors that go into Melo becoming this player.

To say Melo just improved doesn't seem to be a accurate analysis. Even if it was just a case of him improving, what factors lead to the improvement? Is it his age and him having a better understanding of what needs to be done? Is it Phil and Fisher being in his ear and displaying there leadership and communication skills. Is it guys like Affalo, O'Quinn, Lopez, Kristap, Calderon being like able lunch pale guys who he feels at piece with? Is it the triangle system that fits his skill set? Maybe its a combination of all these things.

Probably the most accurate analysis to why Melo has improved has to do with the human elements.

This is correct. There is a level of maturity here, and it has gone hand and hand with his new teammates. Do we really think Melo would be playing this way with last season's roster? It's silly to think he improved at 31, to imply he suddenly added elements to his game that weren't there before. He has neither improved, nor declined (as indicated here so often in nov-dec), he is more-less the same player he has been a majority of his career, but has adjusted his game based on his teammates and the positive environment that has been created this season.

The Melo we're seeing as of 1/7/16 is a combination of things. It isn't just an improved roster, or he just suddenly improved his play. It is both. He sees that guys can make shots now so he trusts them and doesn't try to Hero ball it, and also with Fish and Jax constantly harping in his ear, he's playing harder, not taking many plays off, and playing better and smarter overall.

Definitely not the same Melo from the beginning of the season, and I'm hoping this evolution is here to stay....until Kawhi puts him in a gym locker that is!

But it's KP's team now...

Soon padawan soon. Next year actually. Let the torch be passed naturally.

Funny, that is exactly what i was telling you in Nov when you were saying Melo was done.

Everybody with a logical mind thought that even when he was pronounced "healthy". He didn't trust his teammates yet, he was still Hero balling, not even close to the effort and smarts he's displayed of late.

I admit he's changed his game (for the better). He's making passes now that he'd probably just take it upon himself to shoot. He's doing that swipe block more and more this season, rather than once every other week in past seasons. Less arguing with officials. Less cringe worthy post game interviews. Better body language on the court, especially when faced with adversity.

I'm giving him props, what else do you want?

I want YouTubeMelo bumped. I want a ChuckBuck request that it be stickied. I want you to self-ban the usage of the tkf copyrighted "Melo ball wash" statements.

Welcome back, Chucky. Enjoy the ride.

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Amazing how all he needed was a little help. Many of us have been saying you need to give him quality help to expect this type of result.

or maybe he needed to become a better player.

Its ok to say that melo needed to improve.

Melo is human. There are a lot of factors that go into Melo becoming this player.

To say Melo just improved doesn't seem to be a accurate analysis. Even if it was just a case of him improving, what factors lead to the improvement? Is it his age and him having a better understanding of what needs to be done? Is it Phil and Fisher being in his ear and displaying there leadership and communication skills. Is it guys like Affalo, O'Quinn, Lopez, Kristap, Calderon being like able lunch pale guys who he feels at piece with? Is it the triangle system that fits his skill set? Maybe its a combination of all these things.

Probably the most accurate analysis to why Melo has improved has to do with the human elements.

This is correct. There is a level of maturity here, and it has gone hand and hand with his new teammates. Do we really think Melo would be playing this way with last season's roster? It's silly to think he improved at 31, to imply he suddenly added elements to his game that weren't there before. He has neither improved, nor declined (as indicated here so often in nov-dec), he is more-less the same player he has been a majority of his career, but has adjusted his game based on his teammates and the positive environment that has been created this season.

The Melo we're seeing as of 1/7/16 is a combination of things. It isn't just an improved roster, or he just suddenly improved his play. It is both. He sees that guys can make shots now so he trusts them and doesn't try to Hero ball it, and also with Fish and Jax constantly harping in his ear, he's playing harder, not taking many plays off, and playing better and smarter overall.

Definitely not the same Melo from the beginning of the season, and I'm hoping this evolution is here to stay....until Kawhi puts him in a gym locker that is!

But it's KP's team now...

But KP's not that talented, right? Just like AA, and Rolo and DWilliams and ...

Cartman718 wrote:

Ira wrote:Someone said that the Spurs haven't lost this season in San Antonio. If that's true, beating them in their place would put the league on notice. But, like you say, it's by no means a must win. So we have everything to gain and nothing to lose on Friday.

they are 20-0 at home

The "Popovich machine" as the NYPost puts it, are actually 21-0.

And I'm sure just one quarter of pure Iso garbage and bad D will revert all these good feelings and backtracking that's now going on.

We always have everything to lose. It's the nature of some on the UK.

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Amazing how all he needed was a little help. Many of us have been saying you need to give him quality help to expect this type of result.

or maybe he needed to become a better player.

Its ok to say that melo needed to improve.

Depends on what you consider "improve." His skillset did not change, it was always there. He made the decision to change his game, and his supporting cast has been the biggest influence, which he even admitted.

his natural skillset did not change. The way he used it has and it has on both sides of the court. He is not better because of his cast, they are better because he is making them better.

Right, Rolo, AA, Zingus, DWill, Jerian Grant, Jose would all be in the NBDL or playing in Belgium if it wasn't for Melo finally improving.

jrodmc wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Amazing how all he needed was a little help. Many of us have been saying you need to give him quality help to expect this type of result.

or maybe he needed to become a better player.

Its ok to say that melo needed to improve.

Melo is human. There are a lot of factors that go into Melo becoming this player.

To say Melo just improved doesn't seem to be a accurate analysis. Even if it was just a case of him improving, what factors lead to the improvement? Is it his age and him having a better understanding of what needs to be done? Is it Phil and Fisher being in his ear and displaying there leadership and communication skills. Is it guys like Affalo, O'Quinn, Lopez, Kristap, Calderon being like able lunch pale guys who he feels at piece with? Is it the triangle system that fits his skill set? Maybe its a combination of all these things.

Probably the most accurate analysis to why Melo has improved has to do with the human elements.

This is correct. There is a level of maturity here, and it has gone hand and hand with his new teammates. Do we really think Melo would be playing this way with last season's roster? It's silly to think he improved at 31, to imply he suddenly added elements to his game that weren't there before. He has neither improved, nor declined (as indicated here so often in nov-dec), he is more-less the same player he has been a majority of his career, but has adjusted his game based on his teammates and the positive environment that has been created this season.

The Melo we're seeing as of 1/7/16 is a combination of things. It isn't just an improved roster, or he just suddenly improved his play. It is both. He sees that guys can make shots now so he trusts them and doesn't try to Hero ball it, and also with Fish and Jax constantly harping in his ear, he's playing harder, not taking many plays off, and playing better and smarter overall.

Definitely not the same Melo from the beginning of the season, and I'm hoping this evolution is here to stay....until Kawhi puts him in a gym locker that is!

But it's KP's team now...

Soon padawan soon. Next year actually. Let the torch be passed naturally.

Funny, that is exactly what i was telling you in Nov when you were saying Melo was done.

Everybody with a logical mind thought that even when he was pronounced "healthy". He didn't trust his teammates yet, he was still Hero balling, not even close to the effort and smarts he's displayed of late.

I admit he's changed his game (for the better). He's making passes now that he'd probably just take it upon himself to shoot. He's doing that swipe block more and more this season, rather than once every other week in past seasons. Less arguing with officials. Less cringe worthy post game interviews. Better body language on the court, especially when faced with adversity.

I'm giving him props, what else do you want?

I want YouTubeMelo bumped. I want a ChuckBuck request that it be stickied. I want you to self-ban the usage of the tkf copyrighted "Melo ball wash" statements.

Welcome back, Chucky. Enjoy the ride.

My man jrodmc! Happy New Year's, hope it's been an eventful one for you.

There will be no bumping or stickying of anything. You guys rejoice when your prophet has a few good games, let's see if he can sustain this for the rest of the season and beyond.

I am indeed enjoying the ride. Anytime the Knicks play well and win, I celebrate, even if Melo has a huge part in it.

HofstraBBall wrote:

mreinman wrote:Carmelo anthony is starting to play like a real top 5 player. I love this Melo and I give Phil and Fisher credit for this.

This melo does not have to be on to help his team win.

The defense, the passing, the rebounding, the leadership ... this is great to see.

Nobody can hate this melo.

Agree. It is also a matter of his current physical condition and age. He was obviously more physically gifted early in his career. The ability to drive and pull up on just about anyone in the league made it hard not to try to score every time he touched the ball. If you look back to Denver playoffs in 09 he had a very good team. They fell short of the Finals and lost to the Lakers. He played very well, including passing and defense, but his game back then was more of a pure scorer. Additionally, knee surgery has hurt his physical ability and increased his need for help on offense.

However, maturity and the understanding of team development has been a big factor in his recent play. Phil and Fisher clearly reached him on the importance of involving his teammates on offenae. Helping them improve by making them a part of the offensive success. Making it possible for them to contribute when he needs their help the most, playoffs, late in games, days his game is off.
Like you said, I dont really care how his new game got here juat that he is on our team. Now that he seems to have a better understanding of other crucial aspects of the game he is truly our most valuable player.

Do feel he has always been a player a team can utilize to win as long as it surrounds him with the right players to fill certain voids in his game. There have been many successful teams that incorporated a pure scorer on their team. Including the Knicks 54 win season. Feel everyone has always expected him to be like Lebron and he just simply wasn't. Doesn't mean one should put him down just because he wasn't. There have been many really good, even great, players in the NBA that just didn't have an LBJ type of game. But like this Melo more.

Btw, he has earned the right to shoot techs. 21.5k points plus has earned him that right. Lol

he was always a gifted scorer but not necessarily efficient enough to be shooting all the time and not passing. He was always a very good passer but he would always rather shoot than pass. This really was why he struggled in playoff type basketball when you are forced to pass and he wouldn't.

Shooting the technical should not be a right but a foregone conclusion that it goes to the shooter with the highest likelihood of scoring.

People wanted him to play more like lebron because he had the ability to do so even if its not on lebrons level.

Phil of course saw this all along and the question was how he would get melo to modify his game on both sides of the ball. I am happy that we did not give up hope that he could do this.

A passing melo will be much harder to guard so if he likes buckets, this should help him get there with much fewer attempts.

mreinman wrote:this melo is playing like a top 5 mvp candidate

If he keeps this up, he will soon be in the running

Cartman718 wrote:Melo...stop talking about the past...
Carmelo Anthony had an interesting quote about his approach to sharing the ball this season: "I don't think it's new. I think I was always willing to pass the ball. But now I think it's just a little bit more of an emphasis of not worring about my scoring as much; doing everything else and then just letting the scoring come to me. So I don't think it was a fact of me not being willing, or wanting to be willing to distribute the ball. It's just a matter of me trying to not really focus on just scoring the basketball."

He is right. I PREFER this COMPLETE Carmelo

crzymdups wrote:Phil Jackson came in almost two years ago and got rid of every single player and coach on this team not named Carmelo Anthony.

And then he decided to max out Melo and build a team around him.

And now Melo is playing the best, most team-oriented basketball of his entire career.

Phil has told Melo he can be the Jordan or Kobe of this team. KP can be his Pippen or Gasol.

They need a few more pieces, or maybe just one really great one, to truly contend.

But you can see the shape of it starting to grow. And Phil built it around Melo, because he knew Melo could do it.

And Phil knows more about basketball than any of us.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/686611686099320832

Yet one more example of Anthony's change in attitude.