Knixkik wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

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of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

This is the NBA.....not city league or little league. NBA has different rules. In the NBA, you play for the foul.....Melo is 1 of many...if not all NBA players that do this! Stick your arm out there, and the shot is going up.....regardless if someone is open or not. Thats what shooters do. They learn how to use the rules in their favor.

his arm was grabbed BEFORE he went into his shooting motion and his shot attempt was pretty much free and clear, AND his vision was not impaired. his entire focus is on the basket because he never intended to pass the ball no matter what. do you not see anything wrong with this approach???

it's the NBA, thats a shooting foul.

Yep. For the record the league ruled Rondo's foul impacted Melo's RSBQ - Rhythm, Speed, Balance, Quickness.

It was a foul. He should have been shooting free throws. Probably three. At the least it should have been two.

crzymdups wrote:Sounds like a shooting foul to me.

"Rondo grabs Anthony's arm prior to the start of his upward shooting motion"

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Yeah there is no doubt that call is made 90% of the time and is called a shooting foul 100% of the time in the NBA. Unlucky for us and for Melo. Can't argue with his decision to shoot after drawing the contact.

Knicks1969 wrote:Mreinman hates Carmelo as much as I hate Fisher:::)))

crzymdups wrote:Since this thread started with a hyperbolic Marc Berman article, let's end it with one.

NBA admits Carmelo Anthony got shafted on game-ending miss
By Marc Berman December 11, 2015 | 5:44pm

PORTLAND, Ore. – Carmelo Anthony was vindicated Friday, when the NBA acknowledged in its daily reports analyzing the final two minutes of games he was fouled by Rajon Rondo on his final heave during Thursday’s loss to the Kings.

After taking the inbounds pass with 4.6 seconds left at midcourt, Anthony drove to behind the arc, where he was met by Rondo and Rudy Gay. Replays appeared to show Rondo tugged at his arm as Anthony rose for the shot, which missed off the left side of the rim as the buzzer sounded.

Rookie Kristaps Porzingis was open underneath, but it didn’t appear Anthony had enough time or a clear lane to get him a pass cleanly.

After the game, Anthony was coy but acknowledged he thought he was fouled. The incident came just one day after he lobbied to the referees through a small group of Knicks writers in Utah that he wasn’t getting any calls because he never resorts to flopping. Anthony has not been fined.

Of course, the NBA’s written report and $4 will get Anthony a good cup of coffee in one of the fine Portland cafes.

After the game, when asked him about the final shot, Anthony said, “Did you see [the replay]? When you see it, let me know what you think about it in Portland.’’

When asked why he didn’t argue to the referees after the final buzzer, a frustrated Anthony said, “There’s nothing else to say to them. Just ask them. I don’t want to hear the explanations anymore.’’

Anthony’s miss made him 1 for 19 in the final 10 seconds of a one-possession game since the 2012-2013 season. From 2010-2012, Anthony was 8 of 15 in the those situation (53.5 percent).

crzymdups wrote:Since this thread started with a hyperbolic Marc Berman article, let's end it with one.

NBA admits Carmelo Anthony got shafted on game-ending miss
By Marc Berman December 11, 2015 | 5:44pm

PORTLAND, Ore. – Carmelo Anthony was vindicated Friday, when the NBA acknowledged in its daily reports analyzing the final two minutes of games he was fouled by Rajon Rondo on his final heave during Thursday’s loss to the Kings.

After taking the inbounds pass with 4.6 seconds left at midcourt, Anthony drove to behind the arc, where he was met by Rondo and Rudy Gay. Replays appeared to show Rondo tugged at his arm as Anthony rose for the shot, which missed off the left side of the rim as the buzzer sounded.

Rookie Kristaps Porzingis was open underneath, but it didn’t appear Anthony had enough time or a clear lane to get him a pass cleanly.

After the game, Anthony was coy but acknowledged he thought he was fouled. The incident came just one day after he lobbied to the referees through a small group of Knicks writers in Utah that he wasn’t getting any calls because he never resorts to flopping. Anthony has not been fined.

Of course, the NBA’s written report and $4 will get Anthony a good cup of coffee in one of the fine Portland cafes.

After the game, when asked him about the final shot, Anthony said, “Did you see [the replay]? When you see it, let me know what you think about it in Portland.’’

When asked why he didn’t argue to the referees after the final buzzer, a frustrated Anthony said, “There’s nothing else to say to them. Just ask them. I don’t want to hear the explanations anymore.’’

Anthony’s miss made him 1 for 19 in the final 10 seconds of a one-possession game since the 2012-2013 season. From 2010-2012, Anthony was 8 of 15 in the those situation (53.5 percent).

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

This is the NBA.....not city league or little league. NBA has different rules. In the NBA, you play for the foul.....Melo is 1 of many...if not all NBA players that do this! Stick your arm out there, and the shot is going up.....regardless if someone is open or not. Thats what shooters do. They learn how to use the rules in their favor.

his arm was grabbed BEFORE he went into his shooting motion and his shot attempt was pretty much free and clear, AND his vision was not impaired. his entire focus is on the basket because he never intended to pass the ball no matter what. do you not see anything wrong with this approach???

If that's your read, Kings were over the limit and it should have been a penalty foul and Melo should have gotten two free throws to tie the game. It was a foul. The league said it should have been called a foul. There's is literally no debate anymore as to whether it was a foul. The NBA has said it should have been called a foul.

whether it's a foul is beside the point. the point is that there was an open man underneath the basket with two seconds on the clock, and as melo is at the height of his shooting motion.

Rookie Kristaps Porzingis was open underneath, but it didn’t appear Anthony had enough time or a clear lane to get him a pass cleanly.

Knixkik wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

This is the NBA.....not city league or little league. NBA has different rules. In the NBA, you play for the foul.....Melo is 1 of many...if not all NBA players that do this! Stick your arm out there, and the shot is going up.....regardless if someone is open or not. Thats what shooters do. They learn how to use the rules in their favor.

his arm was grabbed BEFORE he went into his shooting motion and his shot attempt was pretty much free and clear, AND his vision was not impaired. his entire focus is on the basket because he never intended to pass the ball no matter what. do you not see anything wrong with this approach???

it's the NBA, thats a shooting foul. The NBA acknowledged he should have gone to the line for 3 free throws. There is no arguing that.

no arguing that? are you nuts? since when does a "foul prior to his upward shooting motion" result in a shooting foul? it's a two-shot foul. that it was not called has NOTHING to do with the fact that at the top of melo's shooting motion kp6 is at the basket with two seconds on the clock.

dk7th wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

This is the NBA.....not city league or little league. NBA has different rules. In the NBA, you play for the foul.....Melo is 1 of many...if not all NBA players that do this! Stick your arm out there, and the shot is going up.....regardless if someone is open or not. Thats what shooters do. They learn how to use the rules in their favor.

his arm was grabbed BEFORE he went into his shooting motion and his shot attempt was pretty much free and clear, AND his vision was not impaired. his entire focus is on the basket because he never intended to pass the ball no matter what. do you not see anything wrong with this approach???

it's the NBA, thats a shooting foul. The NBA acknowledged he should have gone to the line for 3 free throws. There is no arguing that.

no arguing that? are you nuts? since when does a "foul prior to his upward shooting motion" result in a shooting foul? it's a two-shot foul. that it was not called has NOTHING to do with the fact that at the top of melo's shooting motion kp6 is at the basket with two seconds on the clock.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

This is the NBA.....not city league or little league. NBA has different rules. In the NBA, you play for the foul.....Melo is 1 of many...if not all NBA players that do this! Stick your arm out there, and the shot is going up.....regardless if someone is open or not. Thats what shooters do. They learn how to use the rules in their favor.

his arm was grabbed BEFORE he went into his shooting motion and his shot attempt was pretty much free and clear, AND his vision was not impaired. his entire focus is on the basket because he never intended to pass the ball no matter what. do you not see anything wrong with this approach???

it's the NBA, thats a shooting foul. The NBA acknowledged he should have gone to the line for 3 free throws. There is no arguing that.

no arguing that? are you nuts? since when does a "foul prior to his upward shooting motion" result in a shooting foul? it's a two-shot foul. that it was not called has NOTHING to do with the fact that at the top of melo's shooting motion kp6 is at the basket with two seconds on the clock.

When the other team is in the penalty it is a shooting foul. It is either two free throws or three. Also, the video (not the still) makes it apparent that Melo probably couldn't make the pass. Berman said the same thing in his article.

if it's a foul at all-- and it certainly was-- it's two shots, not three, penalty or not. the foul was committed PRIOR TO his shooting motion. the shot itself was unimpeded. that berman-- berman, seriously?!?-- uses gray language does not help. "did not appear" is a phrase you use to state an opinion or hedge. thirty-one year old paul pierce makes that pass. same with jordan, james, bryant, heck even durant. paul george, kawhi leonard, jimmy butler. blake griffin.

wh4t wrote:the hate for melo man, smh.... fans are too critical and finicky.

If that isn't proof of something, then I don't know what is.