JrZyHuStLa wrote:holfresh wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:holfresh wrote:fishmike wrote:holfresh wrote:fishmike wrote:holfresh wrote:fishmike wrote:holfresh wrote:Knixkik wrote:In a way-too-early assessment of this rookie class it seems that it is very strong:Franchise Players:
1. Towns
2. Porzingis
Stars:
3. Mudiay
4. Okafor
5. Russell
Top-tier role players/starters
6. Winslow
7. Johnson
8. WCS
9. Turner
10. Herzonja
11. Booker
12. J. Grant
I get all the KP giddiness but Franchise player??...What is your definition of a franchise player?
elite impact player on both sides of the ball. A guy you build a defense and an offense around.
So what aspect of his offense do you consider elite and what type of players do you surround him with to compliment his play on offense?
nothing about him is elite right now.. he's a rookie. We are just talking potential. But he can score from anywhere. I mean when his jumper starts to hit and he can pull you out of the paint and his game in the paint is established how do you guard him? He's money at the FT line, so playing him physical doesnt seem smart. He seems like a guy who is happy to shoot 15-18 at the FT line if you want to send him there.I mean how do you guard a fluid athletic 7'3 guy who can knock down long jumpers, turn arounds, hooks, etc.. you cant. You just have to get him good looks. He's really unique. Should be interesting
But neither you or I have seen that..
then you havent been watching. The bank shot is new and hasnt been hitting. He's shooting poorly from downtown. The form and talent is there.. a 100%This has holfresh bait written all over it. Why not just make your point?
No bait at all..I'm just wondering what you consider a franchise talent if you are calling KP a talent to build around..I think it's a long way from projecting him as such..Doesn't mean he can't be but I haven't seen flashes of anything yet to indicate that he can be termed a franchise talent..He can be very a disruptive player on the offensive glass and a deterrent to driving guards in the lane but that's franchise??
Then you don't understand the definition of a projection.
Why can't he be projected to be something in someone's opinon? A projection is nothing but an estimate of a future situation or an estimate of what may happen.
We're a long way from actually knowing for sure if he DOES become one.
Because you have to have a basis for making that projection...You can't make a projection based of something that you have not seen...
In only 7 games into his rookie season, he is only one of two NBA players currently leading their team in rebounds, blocks and steals. He's also tallied 80 points and 60 rebounds in those first 7 career games. The only other guys to do that are Shaq, Webber, Duncan, Griffin and Lamar Odom. All franchise players (Shaq and Tim beyond franchise player caliber) with the exception of Odom who had a solid NBA career.
He's the first rookie with at least 3 double doubles in his first 7 games since Ewing did it 30 years ago.
He is their 2nd leading scorer at 20 years old despite playing less than 25 minutes per game.
This is what you call a basis.
Webber and Odom are not franchise players...Griffin is probably franchise but has not led his team like a franchise player...Those stat are just numbers, the way you effect the game with defenders on you are what creates that aura of franchise...When you can be a go to guy and the team depends on you for that, is franchise...When people game plan for you then that franchise..When you show you cannot be stopped, that franchise...You have to at least show some of these qualities before you project it...
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