gunsnewing wrote:This thread sucks by the way. "Some of you are terrible fans" Coming from a poster who is a pretty terrible poster and then the usual suspects chime in in agreement.

But effective..Gave a few vet posters a platform to say why they no longer post..Some good posters who are missed around these parts..

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:This thread sucks by the way. "Some of you are terrible fans" Coming from a poster who is a pretty terrible poster and then the usual suspects chime in in agreement.

But effective..Gave a few vet posters a platform to say why they no longer post..Some good posters who are missed around these parts..

No its an awful thread because it is implying that anyone who is critical of Knick players is a terrible fan. I find that very offensive and im sure im not the only one

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:This thread sucks by the way. "Some of you are terrible fans" Coming from a poster who is a pretty terrible poster and then the usual suspects chime in in agreement.

But effective..Gave a few vet posters a platform to say why they no longer post..Some good posters who are missed around these parts..

and I am sure that they would not like that you are critical of phil and you did not like our pick. For either of those transgression, you may have caused those missed guys to stay away.

Also, I'm rooting for Phil...I'm critical of Phil when I don't agree with his moves..And there have been lots of things I haven't agreed with...I would be the happiest guy if I'm wrong and Phil is right..Know why, we will be winning...

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:This thread sucks by the way. "Some of you are terrible fans" Coming from a poster who is a pretty terrible poster and then the usual suspects chime in in agreement.

But effective..Gave a few vet posters a platform to say why they no longer post..Some good posters who are missed around these parts..

and I am sure that they would not like that you are critical of phil and you did not like our pick. For either of those transgression, you may have caused those missed guys to stay away.

yea which is exactly why this thread is a complete utter disgrace and only created to get posters to attack other posters with a ridiculous generalization. Zero intent to have an open discussion about basketball here

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Instead of refraining from posting all together how about we wait until the Knicks with Melo become a legitimate contender. I love guarantee you there will be very little Melo hate if any. This is the year for the Knicks to show drastic improvement and an initial step towards building a winning culture and ultimately contending. This is out up or shut up time for Melo. As others have said, you better believe Phil and Derek are trying to finally get through to him. He will either be better for it or it's going to be sayonara Melo to Washington, Charlotte or Chicago.

It's a stupid argument..You can't be a contender without all stars on your roster...When you come up against 5 hall of fame players on the Spurs roster and then lose, later start a thread saying you can't win with Melo, it's a bit misleading..Silly to be honest...Knicks are not built to compete at the next level..Spurs are honing their skills for the playoffs, toying with us as ATL was...Spurs weren't playing hard at all..Aldridge didn't play the entire second quarter..

I personally want to see Melo traded..I'm a big fan of the game..I want to see if he has what it takes to compete at the next level..I want to see that of all top players in this league..I wanted to see it here but that won't happen given our off season..The Clippers had big time trouble last year because their "stars" couldn't take the next step..Curry took the next step in the playoffs and it was great to see him grow as a player...You saw both instances plain as day..That's what this is all about..Ain't about getting your favorite player in Uni..I want to see competitive ball...I could care less who is in Uni as long as we win..

then don't defend him taking the money over an opportunity to win. u come across as a hypocrite.

My desires also embraces reality..Its a business and no one will leave 60 mil on the table, not even David West.. A few years back, the catcher for KC Royals signed a long term deal with his club for about 1 mil a year for about 10 year..I think it gets bumped up to 5 mil per in the 7th or 8th year, club option ..He is a stud..He was naive to sign that deal new to the country and without an agent..U think KC will do the right thing and pay the kid his true value knowing they took advantage of him? ..Do you now think highly of him knowing his employer is pocketing the money he has help them earned with reaching back to back World Series?

i thought it was agreed that you're not allowed to compare baseball to basketball. besides, the kid won and he is happy and is a hero and is universally loved. does he have fu money? no, but almost. is he a made man? yes. is melo? no.

alex rodriguez is 700 times richer and miserable.

C'mon ... melo was not going to leave 60 million on the table and its silly for anyone to expect him to.

translation: melo had no choice.

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:This thread sucks by the way. "Some of you are terrible fans" Coming from a poster who is a pretty terrible poster and then the usual suspects chime in in agreement.

But effective..Gave a few vet posters a platform to say why they no longer post..Some good posters who are missed around these parts..

No its an awful thread because it is implying that anyone who is critical of Knick players is a terrible fan. I find that very offensive and im sure im not the only one

It probably was an awful thread. I took it more as a venting of frustrations. I personally post less these days because everything spirals out of control into some Melo anti-Christ thread. It is annoying. If people want to be critical, that is fine, but we need to pass judgment equally when other take bad shots or make poor decisions with the ball. Also, the contract talks are insane given the current landscape of player salaries. Got role-players making 15 mil or more.

ChuckBuck wrote:Anyone here criticizing fans for calling out poor performances, namely MELO, needs to get their fan card revoked.

He is not playing well. Period.

Normally if you don't play well, you sit, but not in his $124m case. I get it. He sells tickets, sells jerseys, sells LaLa to Maino etc. Truth is, in a basketball sense, he doesn't bring much to the table, except for the occasional efficient scoring outburst 1 out of 4 games...

Doesn't play D (see Kawhi Alley Oop, post and toast, and open 3 pointer), doesn't pass unless doubled or tripled (3.1 career assist average and 3.5 this season), doesn't provide any sort of real leadership. He's a true 1 dimensional suck hole. Just check out his average plusminus for the season(-2.7). If he's not scoring at a efficient rate...he ain't helping the team. PERIOD.

Well done, Knicks1969, even if your grammar needs work.

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Instead of refraining from posting all together how about we wait until the Knicks with Melo become a legitimate contender. I love guarantee you there will be very little Melo hate if any. This is the year for the Knicks to show drastic improvement and an initial step towards building a winning culture and ultimately contending. This is out up or shut up time for Melo. As others have said, you better believe Phil and Derek are trying to finally get through to him. He will either be better for it or it's going to be sayonara Melo to Washington, Charlotte or Chicago.

It's a stupid argument..You can't be a contender without all stars on your roster...When you come up against 5 hall of fame players on the Spurs roster and then lose, later start a thread saying you can't win with Melo, it's a bit misleading..Silly to be honest...Knicks are not built to compete at the next level..Spurs are honing their skills for the playoffs, toying with us as ATL was...Spurs weren't playing hard at all..Aldridge didn't play the entire second quarter..

I personally want to see Melo traded..I'm a big fan of the game..I want to see if he has what it takes to compete at the next level..I want to see that of all top players in this league..I wanted to see it here but that won't happen given our off season..The Clippers had big time trouble last year because their "stars" couldn't take the next step..Curry took the next step in the playoffs and it was great to see him grow as a player...You saw both instances plain as day..That's what this is all about..Ain't about getting your favorite player in Uni..I want to see competitive ball...I could care less who is in Uni as long as we win..

then don't defend him taking the money over an opportunity to win. u come across as a hypocrite.

My desires also embraces reality..Its a business and no one will leave 60 mil on the table, not even David West.. A few years back, the catcher for KC Royals signed a long term deal with his club for about 1 mil a year for about 10 year..I think it gets bumped up to 5 mil per in the 7th or 8th year, club option ..He is a stud..He was naive to sign that deal new to the country and without an agent..U think KC will do the right thing and pay the kid his true value knowing they took advantage of him? ..Do you now think highly of him knowing his employer is pocketing the money he has help them earned with reaching back to back World Series?

i thought it was agreed that you're not allowed to compare baseball to basketball. besides, the kid won and he is happy and is a hero and is universally loved. does he have fu money? no, but almost. is he a made man? yes. is melo? no.

alex rodriguez is 700 times richer and miserable.

Yeah, Arod looked truly miserable as a color commentator after having a pretty decent season for a 40 year old. With that disgusting WS ring on his finger.

You certainly have an interesting worldview.

If we do manage to win 42 or 47 games (or whatever your high side expectation was) this meaningless jv season, I will be truly interested in hearing your take on it.

jrodmc wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Anyone here criticizing fans for calling out poor performances, namely MELO, needs to get their fan card revoked.

He is not playing well. Period.

Normally if you don't play well, you sit, but not in his $124m case. I get it. He sells tickets, sells jerseys, sells LaLa to Maino etc. Truth is, in a basketball sense, he doesn't bring much to the table, except for the occasional efficient scoring outburst 1 out of 4 games...

Doesn't play D (see Kawhi Alley Oop, post and toast, and open 3 pointer), doesn't pass unless doubled or tripled (3.1 career assist average and 3.5 this season), doesn't provide any sort of real leadership. He's a true 1 dimensional suck hole. Just check out his average plusminus for the season(-2.7). If he's not scoring at a efficient rate...he ain't helping the team. PERIOD.

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Case in point for the existence of this thread. Pay close attention, boys and girls. Notice the ignorance of anything positive. Take special note of the need to use CAPS when referring to the team DOUCHE.

Well done, Knicks1969, even if your grammar needs work.

Did I say something false? Watch the tape.

jrodmc wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Anyone here criticizing fans for calling out poor performances, namely MELO, needs to get their fan card revoked.

Normally if you don't play well, you sit, but not in his $124m case. I get it. He sells tickets, sells jerseys, sells LaLa to Maino etc. Truth is, in a basketball sense, he doesn't bring much to the table, except for the occasional efficient scoring outburst 1 out of 4 games...

Doesn't play D (see Kawhi Alley Oop, post and toast, and open 3 pointer), doesn't pass unless doubled or tripled (3.1 career assist average and 3.5 this season), doesn't provide any sort of real leadership. He's a true 1 dimensional suck hole. Just check out his average plusminus for the season(-2.7). If he's not scoring at a efficient rate...he ain't helping the team. PERIOD.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Case in point for the existence of this thread. Pay close attention, boys and girls. Notice the ignorance of anything positive. Take special note of the need to use CAPS when referring to the team DOUCHE.

Well done, Knicks1969, even if your grammar needs work.

Did I say something false? Watch the tape.

ChuckBuck wrote:He is not playing well. Period.

Did you watch the Wizards game? Any chance of you getting your fan card revoked for not calling out great performances, by namely ME70? He took 2 more shots that KP did against the Spurs. Barely shot in the 4th quarter when the lead was cut down to 4. Why don't you post about how many passes he might have made that didn't convert? Why are lots of posters pointing out that he is exerting more effort on defense?

Why don't you respond to what's actually posted? Who said you lied? Take the cool Melohate hat off for just a second, Chucky.

Things are actually looking up.

I watched the Wizards game. 1 good game out of 4. I've posted that on numerous threads.

Keep up, jrodmc.

herkyJerky wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Exhibit A, B, C, Z of why he who shall not be named deserves criticism from now until beyond the grave

Let's see, pass the phucking ball or take it up against 2 of the greatest defenders known to man? Phuck it, let's get buckets!

But if he doesn't make those kinds of plays, then you criticize him for being too soft and not taking it hard to the rim. Right?

Like this?

Sums up his whole existence. Can't believe you guys root for this chump.