holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:What we paid RoLo isn't really the issue. To get stuck on that misses the point of what RoLo can give this team.
We know he's not the sexy pick but in terms of filling the role as the defensive anchor, screen setter, roll man and Triangle Post big he fits the needs the team had very well. He's not flashy but he's functional and effective.
He also is impactful without needing the ball.

RoLo also helps Melo and KP by doing the grunt work and physical things on the floor. Melo and KP can save their bodies for the scoring they can bring. At the same time RoLo does have the ability to hold his position in the post in the side Triangle and he's an Excellent Offensive Rebounder. This system will give him some additional touches and opportunities to expand his game.

Sorry, but you just described a totally different player. Robin Lopez has never been a "defensive anchor". How can you be if you dont average even 30 minutes per game. You dont need to pay 15 mil for a big that can roll to the basket and set screens. he is good on the offensive glass, but thats more indicative of a team that shoot and offensive rebounding is grossly overrated. The worth of a center will always be his defensive boards and Lopez is dismal on that end. He';ll be the biggest disappointment on the Knicks and the team is stuck with him for a full four years. Doubling his yearly salary was a gross overpay.

Sorry but you're wrong about RoLo. He is a defensive anchor and he has the ability to fill that role at a high level. He does need to be a bit more aggressive on the defensive boards but if he was perfect we'd have to have paid even more for him. I think he will help this team a lot as he did for the Blazers.

RoLo was excellent in 2013-14. He held opponents to just 42.8% at the rim.

                                                        Total   Opp FGM Opp FGA Opp FGP
Player	          Team	GP	MPG	STL 	BLK	BLK	at Rim 	at Rim 	at Rim
Serge Ibaka	  OKC	81	33.2	0.5	2.7	219	4.1	9.1	45.0%
Anthony Davis	  NOP	67	35.4	1.3	2.8	189	3.2	6.6	48.8%
DeAndre Jordan	  LAC	82	35.3	1.0	2.5	203	5.1	10.2	49.8%
Roy Hibbert	  IND	81	29.9	0.4	2.2	182	4.0	9.8	41.1%
Robin Lopez	  POR	82	31.9	0.3	1.7	139	4.4	10.2	42.8%
Tim Duncan	  SAS	74	29.3	0.6	1.9	139	4.4	9.1	47.6%
Dwight Howard	  HOU	71	34.0	0.8	1.8	128	4.2	8.7	48.1%
Andrew Bogut	  GSW	66	26.6	0.7	1.8	118	3.5	7.6	45.6%
Joakim Noah	  CHI	80	35.4	1.2	1.5	121	3.6	7.7	47.2%
Marcin Gortat	  WAS	80	32.9	0.5	1.5	120	4.7	9.3	49.9%

RoLo had an off year last year which was marred by a broken hand, but still he was a force for the Blazers even if not as good as the year before.

After two years of steady growth on the defensive end anchored by center Robin Lopez, the Trail Blazers head into the 2015-16 season relying on a new crop of big men to protect the basket.

Lopez was credited as the key factor in the Blazers' transformation into a top 10 defense over the past two seasons. In addition to Lopez, the Blazers will be tasked with replacing LaMarcus Aldridge's defensive prowess, the side of the court where his contributions were often overlooked.

Lopez fit perfectly in the Blazers' conservative defensive approach. He walled off the paint and protected the basket, contesting 50.3 percent of shots at the rim when he was on the court, according to Seth Partnow of Nylon Calculus. Aldridge limited opponents to 45.1 percent shooting at the rim, but didn't contest nearly as many attempts as Lopez. Opponents shot 48 percent at the rim when Lopez challenged their attempts last season. His activity around the basket helped save an estimated 1.47 points a game compared to an average center, the tenth best mark in the league according to Nylon Calculus.

2014-15 Hollinger NBA Player Statistics - Centers
Season:
League: NBA | East | West
Position: All | PG | SG | SF | PF | C | Rookies | International
Qualified* | All Players
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Hollinger Stats - Player Efficiency Rating - Qualified Centers
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
1	Hassan Whiteside, MIA	48	23.8	.619	1.2	11.2	18.7	15.6	34.7	25.4	26.26	266.9	8.9
2	DeMarcus Cousins, SAC	59	34.1	.545	11.9	14.4	31.8	10.8	30.6	21.1	25.29	441.2	14.7
3	Brook Lopez, BKN	72	29.2	.558	4.0	8.2	23.7	11.5	17.1	14.3	22.76	381.2	12.7
4	Marc Gasol, MEM	81	33.2	.558	17.6	10.1	23.5	4.9	21.8	13.4	21.73	446.4	14.9
5	Nikola Vucevic, ORL	74	34.2	.548	9.2	9.3	23.8	10.4	26.0	18.1	21.62	416.0	13.9
6	Rudy Gobert, UTAH	82	26.3	.627	14.2	14.5	13.4	14.3	27.2	20.7	21.60	354.2	11.8
7	Andre Drummond, DET	82	30.5	.504	4.2	9.3	20.4	18.3	30.1	24.0	21.50	406.9	13.6
8	Al Horford, ATL	76	30.5	.563	17.8	7.3	20.9	6.7	19.8	13.4	21.43	374.8	12.5
9	Greg Monroe, DET	69	31.0	.549	11.0	11.5	22.7	11.2	25.1	17.9	21.26	311.4	10.4
10	DeAndre Jordan, LAC	82	34.4	.638	6.7	12.0	12.3	16.2	32.4	24.5	21.05	440.0	14.7
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
11	Jonas Valanciunas, TOR	80	26.2	.623	4.2	11.8	17.3	11.8	26.3	19.1	20.60	312.9	10.4
12	Enes Kanter, OKC/UTAH	75	28.5	.564	4.5	11.8	22.2	14.7	20.5	17.6	20.36	310.9	10.4
13	Tyson Chandler, DAL	75	30.5	.697	11.3	14.1	11.9	14.1	27.4	20.7	20.12	324.7	10.8
14	Alexis Ajinca, NO	68	14.1	.595	9.6	14.1	19.6	12.4	25.0	18.7	20.01	134.4	4.5
15	Chris Bosh, MIA	44	35.4	.548	9.2	9.2	25.9	3.6	20.0	12.0	19.87	215.2	7.2
16	Al Jefferson, CHA	65	30.6	.500	8.9	5.4	24.1	5.3	25.5	15.1	19.75	272.1	9.1
17	Marreese Speights, GS	76	15.9	.546	8.2	9.3	26.3	10.1	18.7	14.5	19.58	161.8	5.4
18	Dwight Howard, HOU	41	29.8	.596	7.1	16.3	21.4	10.0	28.9	19.5	19.31	159.0	5.3
19	Tyler Zeller, BOS	82	21.1	.594	12.7	8.5	18.4	9.1	20.5	14.7	19.01	217.2	7.2
20	Marcin Gortat, WSH	82	29.9	.587	9.2	9.5	16.1	8.5	24.1	16.5	18.28	281.1	9.4
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
21	Cole Aldrich, NY	61	16.0	.513	16.2	12.7	17.4	11.6	28.9	20.0	18.16	110.1	3.7
22	John Henson, MIL	67	18.3	.578	10.7	15.8	16.7	11.7	17.4	14.5	18.08	137.0	4.6
23	Anderson Varejao, CLE	26	24.5	.580	12.1	12.1	17.0	10.4	20.1	15.3	17.74	67.7	2.3
24	Chris Kaman, POR	74	18.9	.537	8.5	14.1	20.7	11.7	25.2	18.5	17.38	141.4	4.7
25	Gorgui Dieng, MIN	73	30.0	.573	16.4	14.1	14.4	11.3	20.8	15.9	17.26	218.1	7.3
26	Andrea Bargnani, NY	29	27.1	.527	9.3	8.5	24.4	4.6	14.4	9.3	16.71	71.6	2.4
27	Nikola Pekovic, MIN	31	26.3	.502	6.0	9.3	21.2	12.1	21.0	16.4	16.69	74.0	2.5
28	Timofey Mozgov, CLE/DEN	81	25.3	.594	6.6	13.9	16.7	11.0	21.4	16.1	16.59	182.9	6.1
29	Robin Lopez, POR	59	27.8	.574	8.9	11.8	14.2	12.7	13.1	12.9	16.26	138.4	4.6
30	Jordan Hill, LAL	70	26.8	.494	9.7	10.0	21.2	9.9	23.4	16.4	16.21	156.8	5.2
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
	Festus Ezeli, GS	46	11.0	.580	4.2	14.9	15.8	13.3	19.7	16.6	16.21	42.2	1.4
32	Kelly Olynyk, BOS	64	22.3	.558	13.7	12.3	19.9	7.0	16.5	11.7	15.93	113.2	3.8
33	Andrew Bogut, GS	67	23.6	.565	27.3	16.1	13.0	9.9	26.5	18.5	15.82	123.2	4.1
34	Zaza Pachulia, MIL	73	23.7	.506	19.6	14.6	18.3	13.1	19.9	16.5	15.68	131.2	4.4
	Tristan Thompson, CLE	82	26.8	.580	5.4	11.5	12.8	14.5	19.7	17.2	15.68	166.2	5.5
36	Omer Asik, NO	76	26.1	.545	10.6	14.0	13.1	14.0	28.8	21.4	15.49	144.6	4.8
37	Roy Hibbert, IND	76	25.3	.501	8.5	10.8	19.6	9.0	21.9	15.5	15.47	140.0	4.7
38	Joakim Noah, CHI	67	30.6	.482	33.2	13.1	14.4	11.9	22.1	17.1	15.35	145.2	4.8
39	Larry Sanders, MIL	27	21.7	.507	9.4	11.5	15.6	13.2	19.2	16.2	15.25	0.0	0.0
40	Nerlens Noel, PHI	75	30.8	.493	12.4	14.2	16.0	8.3	21.0	14.3	15.03	152.8	5.1
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
41	Meyers Leonard, POR	55	15.4	.631	9.7	11.8	14.6	5.9	25.3	15.8	14.85	53.7	1.8
42	Jusuf Nurkic, DEN	62	17.8	.483	8.7	14.9	19.2	11.8	26.1	18.7	14.84	69.8	2.3
43	Tarik Black, HOU/LAL	63	19.0	.583	10.1	11.6	11.6	12.8	21.4	17.0	14.76	58.1	1.9
44	Justin Hamilton, MIA/MIN	41	17.4	.551	13.8	10.0	11.4	9.2	12.7	11.0	14.67	43.2	1.4
45	Henry Sims, PHI	73	19.2	.521	10.7	13.4	19.3	8.9	19.4	13.9	14.52	81.9	2.7
46	Kosta Koufos, MEM	81	16.6	.530	7.4	13.8	14.5	10.3	25.8	18.1	14.21	72.6	2.4
47	Steven Adams, OKC	70	25.3	.549	10.1	15.1	13.5	12.2	19.3	15.8	14.14	93.5	3.1
48	Alex Len, PHX	69	22.0	.542	6.3	14.7	12.4	10.2	22.7	16.4	13.54	66.6	2.2
49	Miles Plumlee, MIL/PHX	73	16.4	.536	9.5	14.2	15.0	10.3	19.4	14.8	13.44	50.6	1.7
50	Dewayne Dedmon, ORL	59	14.3	.568	3.6	20.4	11.6	15.5	24.1	19.7	13.31	34.2	1.1

Why use the season when RoLo breaks his hand and use that to try and make some kind of point? What are you even trying to show with this post? You have to make it much more clear what your point is.

No one is suggesting that RoLo is some superstar. I surely am not trying to make him out to be special. He is what this team needed as a Defensive Center. He's shown that he can be a top defensive center in this league. He wasn't brought in to be a big time Go To player. RoLo is here to solidify the middle for this team. He's capable of doing that. KP is the big that is going to be groomed to be the LMA of this team. KP is the one with the talent and potential to be a Go To player.