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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/21/2015 2:46 PM
dk7th wrote:yes one is never too old to learn. I see what you did there so here is what phil is thinking ....
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
7/21/2015 3:45 PM
Jmpasq wrote:dk7th wrote:john stockton .38:1 which is incredible you rang? http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01.html#advanced::none scroll down to "Advanced" then look at the columns named USG and AST carmelo anthony 2:1 which is terrible for a small forward, 2.6:1 during the woodson 54-28 mirage knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/21/2015 3:53 PM
dk7th wrote:Jmpasq wrote:dk7th wrote:john stockton .38:1 which is incredible Gallo? Pretty bad too. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
7/21/2015 4:02 PM LAST EDITED: 7/21/2015 4:04 PM
mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:Jmpasq wrote:dk7th wrote:john stockton .38:1 which is incredible For small forwards, I think it's more natural for them to be "finishers" than play makers. I bet if you look at Amar'e and Marion in Phoenix when they played with Nash they had very high usage and low assist rates. It depends a lot on how the team is built. The problem with Me7o is that this team needs him to be a distributor. Specifically, the Triangle and lack of playmaking PG call for Me7o to be more of a distributor. However, during the supposed "woodson mirage" season (really coulda sworn that one happened!), Me7o did get a ton of "hockey assists" where he would kick the ball out to the perimeter and it would swing for an open three. I don't think that should count as actual assists in the NBA - but since people are getting all advanced with their metrics, it'd be nice to see those types of teamwork passes recorded and rewarded somewhere. I'm not a huge Me7o fan, but the assist rate stat seems kinda unsophisticated. I'd love to see it somehow reflect the pass that leads to the pass that creates an assist as well. ¿ △ ?
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/21/2015 4:06 PM
crzymdups wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:Jmpasq wrote:dk7th wrote:john stockton .38:1 which is incredible hockey assists are now tracked and Melo does not "pass" there either unfortunately, the ball usually does not come out once he gets it in the post unless he is quadruple teamed and even then, there must be zero sunshine so here is what phil is thinking ....
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
7/21/2015 4:06 PM
crzymdups wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:Jmpasq wrote:dk7th wrote:john stockton .38:1 which is incredible i think it accounts for what you are asking, since it is defined as "an estimate of teammate field goals a player assisted while he was on the floor." knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
7/21/2015 4:13 PM
mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:Jmpasq wrote:dk7th wrote:john stockton .38:1 which is incredible yes but in gallo's defense he has been jerked around and marginalized a bunch during his career, but he has shown ability in two seasons in denver. if he can maintain his health he can work on that part of his game like durant has done. i expect him to be closer to 1.4:1 this next season now that he is being paid like a featured player, but i have some real doubts about mudiay hindering the offense rather than helping. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/21/2015 4:16 PM
crzymdups wrote:dk7th wrote: http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?sort=AST_SEC&dir=1 so here is what phil is thinking ....
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
7/21/2015 4:17 PM
dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:Jmpasq wrote:dk7th wrote:john stockton .38:1 which is incredible your are making excuses for him. If you do that, then you need to start looking at every stat far deeper. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
7/21/2015 4:23 PM
mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:Jmpasq wrote:dk7th wrote:john stockton .38:1 which is incredible well i could but really the only other player in these ratios that i would look deeper at is paul pierce. everything else has been pretty consistent. at any rate i left him off the list on purpose because he has been too injured too much of the time to really develop his game. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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