Cartman718 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:the mavs... easily. without deandre, they get destroyed inside. blake would not be as effective.
with dirk and deandre starting for mavs, that would be a great frontcourt even with dirk staying outside mostly.

Jordan need Paul and Blake to be effective. Most of his scoring comes from their efforts.

Who is the PG with the Mavs at this point?

Clippers are closer to a title with Jordan than the Mavs are with him, IMO.

PGs are dime a dozen dude...they'll figure it out

TPercy wrote:Mavericks starting point gaurd is about to be Raymond Felton. LOL.

Talk about a drop off from CP. Felton had amari and chandler twice. Now DJ? Hes had the most PnR bigs in nba history.

jrodmc wrote:Can you spell no trade clause?

Phil: Ummm, Melo, how would you like Dallas? No state taxes, nice climate, Dirk's a great teammate...
Melo: Ummm, how do you say "go eff yourself on a dull fork" in Zen?

Dallas is a better team than the Knicks. Melo and Dirk can work together. There's nothing here for Melo.

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blkexec wrote:

TPercy wrote:Mavericks starting point gaurd is about to be Raymond Felton. LOL.

Talk about a drop off from CP. Felton had amari and chandler twice. Now DJ? Hes had the most PnR bigs in nba history.

Tyson didn't seem to have any problems away from Paul, he actually became more efficient.

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Knixkik wrote:

anrst wrote:Rivers is all about Rivers. I can't wait to here him spin this. Drama follows him everywhere.

You seen Blake's twitter post though with the chair in front of the door? These guys are making a mockery of the whole thing, knowing he's coming back. It's just crazy.

Its a done deal--the guys a Clipper--too bad for Dallas. Their owner is the ultimate big mouth --too bad for him.

TripleThreat wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Isn't it essentially a contract?

From a CBA standpoint, Jordan can do it, he can simply resign with the Clippers.

However this will be a point of contention in the next labor war and this will never be allowed to happen again, not after this offseason.

Doc Rivers is an idiot. Always was. So are his players and their Tweets/Instagram, etc.

Adam Silver can't make Jordan sign with the Mavericks, he can make sure that the Clippers and Jordan get ZERO CALLS this season, or maybe as long as Silver stays pissed. I mean ZERO CALLS. You are free to hit Jordan on the court up to a Flagrant 2 and there will be no call. Every time Chris Paul travels ( and he does a lot ) it's going to get called.

If Rivers and the Clippers do this, the next five years, they will be playing 8 on 5. The other team plus the three refs against them, every single game.

I think you are mistaken if you think Silver opposed this- why do you think the nba fined Cuban for speaking about the original deal if not to emphasis the deal was not official? The Clips owner paid a lot of money for that franchise, so likely the nba wants to reward him to encourage future buyers.

A lot of people on other forums are calling DJ dumb, but being indecisive has nothing to do with intelligence - sometimes you don't know you've made the wrong decision until you've made it. Rather than worry about what everyone else thought and spend 4 or 5 years unhappy or filled with regret, he changed his mind and did what was right for him. When Kerr and Lin renaged on their verbal deals they were lauded as doing the smart thing.

y2zipper wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Isn't it essentially a contract?

From a CBA standpoint, Jordan can do it, he can simply resign with the Clippers.

However this will be a point of contention in the next labor war and this will never be allowed to happen again, not after this offseason.

Doc Rivers is an idiot. Always was. So are his players and their Tweets/Instagram, etc.

Adam Silver can't make Jordan sign with the Mavericks, he can make sure that the Clippers and Jordan get ZERO CALLS this season, or maybe as long as Silver stays pissed. I mean ZERO CALLS. You are free to hit Jordan on the court up to a Flagrant 2 and there will be no call. Every time Chris Paul travels ( and he does a lot ) it's going to get called.

If Rivers and the Clippers do this, the next five years, they will be playing 8 on 5. The other team plus the three refs against them, every single game.

I think you are mistaken if you think Silver opposed this- why do you think the nba fined Cuban for speaking about the original deal if not to emphasis the deal was not official? The Clips owner paid a lot of money for that franchise, so likely the nba wants to reward him to encourage future buyers.

A lot of people on other forums are calling DJ dumb, but being indecisive has nothing to do with intelligence - sometimes you don't know you've made the wrong decision until you've made it. Rather than worry about what everyone else thought and spend 4 or 5 years unhappy or filled with regret, he changed his mind and did what was right for him. When Kerr and Lin renaged on their verbal deals they were lauded as doing the smart thing.

Yeah, basically this.

The moratorium period where no legally binding deal can take placee is actually good for the league becuase they use it to audit revenue for the next salary cap and because free agency keeps teams in the news and keeps attention on the league. This isn't the first time a player has reneged on a verbal commitment and probably won't be the last, but the drama is good for the league.

Yep, I remember Boozer did it, Elton Brand did it. It happens, there are consequences though. Sports agencies ususally cut the player (though considering Jordan's contract I doubt it) and that agency avoids the team for a while but considering the Clippers are capped out its not hurting either side.

This likely ruined the Mavs year, but hey at least this didn't happen to the knicks.

TripleThreat wrote:

y2zipper wrote:......keeps teams in the news and keeps attention on the league. This isn't the first time a player has reneged on a verbal commitment and probably won't be the last, but the drama is good for the league.

This isn't the kind of drama or attention the NBA wants.

It's one thing to do it, it's another for Chris Paul and Blake Griffin and Doc Rivers to go on Tweeting and Instagraming and rubbing it in everyone's faces. It makes a mockery of the system and doing so disrespects the Commissioner and the league administration.

Silver works for the owners, and the aggregate of owners aren't going to want to spend every offseason in a jet, trying to beg guys to stay to their word. There is too much room for raw abuse of this, which makes the league anti competitive. No way Silver will endorse risking teams using this kind of gamesmanship to tarnish the competitiveness of the entire league.

The players and the players union lost the last labor war and lost it badly. All this will do is incite the aggregate of owners into pushing for what they first proposed the last time, which was universal and widespread normalization of non guaranteed contracts and a hard cap. LeBron, Wade and Bosh went around and made owners beg and plead with them, while knowing what they were going to do anyway, then they flaunted it in front of the league and what happened? The owners in the next labor war crushed the players and made sure nothing like that could ever happen again. You can't have three close to max players and still have a functional team in the modern game.

NBA players have the most current leverage of all of the major US pro sports, however every time they flaunt it, they get hammered in the next labor war. No aging white billionaire is going to want to get on hands and knees and beg some 23 year old uneducated black kid to keep his word and then get humiliated in the press and public. And while some or many or most of the owners might hate Cuban personally, he is still one of them. Refusing to even acknowledge an owner, whom you've given your word to, and hide in a locked house and ignoring your own agents is a disrespect to Cuban, which by extension is a disrespect to all owners.

Mocking the league is not the kind of attention the NBA wants. Not a chance.

Looking like a circus isn't the kind of media glare the league wants.

Wow. You are making a lot of stereotypical assumptions in your post that are really out of line. The bottomline is there is a moratorium in which all verbal deals are non-final. Teams cannot even officially comment on those verbal agreements, which shows how non-binding they are. Jordan changed his mind, which he had a right to do. The solution is simple. Do away with the moratorium. If the NBA needs 7 days to figure out the cap figure (which I never understood why that was the case), then it should not let teams start negotiating until the end of the 7-day period. In that way, when a guy agrees to a deal, you can have him immediately sign a contract.