H1AND1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Also, this might open up a spot/time for Thanasis at SG

Good point. I had forgotten about The Greek Freak 2.0. Let's hope he's drilling 3 after 3 this summer. He can be a 3 and D monster with that athletic ability.

Super super psyched about the Grant trade! Someone took THjr! Haha! Suckers!

Don't know about the 3 part but definitely the D.

mreinman wrote:Atlanta made a very suspect move.

The irony is that in Atlanta they run very similar stuff to the Spurs, who run very similar elements to the Triangle.
It was not the Triangle that held back THj,

If so why did he struggle WORSE, as in career worst in Atlanta the 3rd year (and his first year with them)?

Too much bias here.

If it were Triangle, when THj gets to Atlanta he explodes right away. Instead he struggled, so bad, he was sent to the D league.

Then in his contract year, he realizes he may not even get a chance as a free agent, works his tail off in the summer, all of a sudden you see him shoot better, be more active, play with a higher motor, take better shots and he always had the talent. Never was a question of talent with him.

I just worry if now that he gets that contract if he reverts a little. I never expect him to go back to the Atlanta 15-16 (first year) or NY Knick 14-16 player he was, but like most free agents who have a big contract year, he may end up in between the player he was in Atlanta the last 2 months and the player he was the first 3 years of his career.

A decent, reasonable mean expectation for someone like him in the next 4 years would be 13 points a game, 28 minutes and decent defense. Not worth the money he got paid, but better than Afflalo or CLee. He's going to get paid all-star money, when he will produce (most likely) as if he were a top 20 starting level shooting guard.

nyknickzingis wrote:Hardaway is not a great player.
Come on.
He's a guy who was sent down to the D league.
Worked on his defense and his game.

The irony is that in Atlanta they run very similar stuff to the Spurs, who run very similar elements to the Triangle.
It was not the Triangle that held back THj,

If so why did he struggle WORSE, as in career worst in Atlanta the 3rd year (and his first year with them)?

Too much bias here.

If it were Triangle, when THj gets to Atlanta he explodes right away. Instead he struggled, so bad, he was sent to the D league.

Then in his contract year, he realizes he may not even get a chance as a free agent, works his tail off in the summer, all of a sudden you see him shoot better, be more active, play with a higher motor, take better shots and he always had the talent. Never was a question of talent with him.

I just worry if now that he gets that contract if he reverts a little. I never expect him to go back to the Atlanta 15-16 (first year) or NY Knick 14-16 player he was, but like most free agents who have a big contract year, he may end up in between the player he was in Atlanta the last 2 months and the player he was the first 3 years of his career.

A decent, reasonable mean expectation for someone like him in the next 4 years would be 13 points a game, 28 minutes and decent defense. Not worth the money he got paid, but better than Afflalo or CLee. He's going to get paid all-star money, when he will produce (most likely) as if he were a top 20 starting level shooting guard.