knicks1248 wrote:Nalod wrote:knickscity wrote:nixluva wrote:knickscity wrote:Phil hasnt even been proven to be competent. Sure he'll get a shot to make the team better, we'll see if he does. Until then you can only hope. All the titles dont translate to anything in the office, makes no sense trying to use them as if they mean anything in this new role.
It does matter because he was actually taking part in the process of deciding on personnel. He's been learning about what works all these years. Phil was never just satisfied with only coaching. Phil always had an interest in how teams are constructed. It was not just about strategy but also personnel. Just cuz you guys have challenged me on this I'm going to do research and post a thread just about this.
Phil didnt build the Bulls or the Lakers, he was an assistant with the Bulls and that team was already formed, the Lakers core was in place as well. Phil is an opportunist at best, those teams were on the verge of winning anyway.
Bulls had stagnated. Get real. Phil didn't build them, he made them better.
Totally ignorant to dismiss the guy with more coaching rings in the history of the NBA.
1. No coach wins without great players. Lots of coaches have lost with them.
2. Bulls had not reached finals. They did not win the first year phil was there.
3. Michael left and they won 55 games without him.
4. Kobe had not won yet. Look at the rest of the roster beyond Kobe and SHaq.
Phil knows winning. If you expected greatness in year one you were starphuching yourselves. While few could imagine just how bad this team got. A secure man recognizes the problem and strips it away.
This will likely take some time and I do believe phil might not be here in 4 years when the team can be contenders. He is here to build a culture. Takes time.
YOu might not like him, or believe that a winning culture can be born from a man who has 13 rings but don't dismiss the facts and call him an "opportunist at best".
Pop got Timmy, Pitino got fired.
Riley walked on to Laker team a year removed from a championship season. The Championship DNA was already there. Not with Bulls. They were stagnated by Detroit and Collins could not take them further.
He knows how to motivate players and get in their head, just like he got into our heads with the lame ass tweets. That does not qualify one as a person who knows how to gauge talent, and build a championship roster.
Obviously he knows what it takes, and the type of players needed, but there is nobody in the entire league that has the kind of impact phil can have on the side lines and in practice. But he is sitting in an office, rarely goes to practice and has absolute no desire to travel with this team like a Mark Cuban.
IMO when you have a clueless coach, you would think hands on is better than hands off.
Thats your defense for calling PHil an "Opportunist at best"?
Whats my defense about him as defacto team architect? "Hope that winner can transcribe his experience into a culture of talent building". Hows that done? GM, coaches, execs and scouting.
Year one was disclosure and expulsion of the the negative. Clueless coach? He got 5 rings. Hes not clueless. Kerr stepped on to a team that won 55 games year before. Great hire, great fit and he did a good job.
Fish waled on to a team that sucked. By the end of the season we had about turned the roster over and Melo on the bench.
A coach needs a roster. Is he a good coach? I don't know yet. He'd probably say he sucked this year too! You and Captain obvious have something in common. You both saw the wins vs. Losses.
