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OT: Yankees won't pay A-Rod HR bonus
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jrodmc
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5/11/2015  9:10 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:You either throw them out of the sport entirely (ala Lance Armstrong), or you let them play and stop effing around with suspensions and asterisks. And I'm not pro-Arod by any means. I've always thought he was insanely overpriced, and the WS win was just as much about Matsui as it was about Arod.

Gambling, booze, greenies, pine tar, rhoids. The sport is effing itself over by letting all these guys come back at all, if they want to be pure, and Yankee management does come off as greedy little cheap a-holes, holding back 6 mil. Maybe they could think about giving back to the paying public some of the revenue Arod generated during the '09 run, if they're so worried about marketability and purity.


I agree with everything you said except the "letting them back at all" part. The league messed up by not having clear and serious punishments known in advance - if not returning at all was the punishment for steroid use, that needed to be known in advance. The problem is not the lack of punishment after use of steroids by players but the lack of a policy with a serious punishment before the use started.

There were punishments, but seriousness is not the point. You can punish all you want, but no matter when it's discovered, or when warnings or policies are issued, if the sport wants purity, than they should have enforced the no-tolerance consequence immediately. But it's a pie in the sky argument anyway. Baseball is a business, and if the Arod's and Sosa's and Bonds and McGuires are/were putting fannies in the seats, the sport's going to accomodate them in any way possible.

The Yankees just look stupid and petulant over what amounts to petty cash.


Hey, Cano is tied with Joe Pepitone at 271st!

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Bonn1997
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5/11/2015  9:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/11/2015  10:58 AM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:You either throw them out of the sport entirely (ala Lance Armstrong), or you let them play and stop effing around with suspensions and asterisks. And I'm not pro-Arod by any means. I've always thought he was insanely overpriced, and the WS win was just as much about Matsui as it was about Arod.

Gambling, booze, greenies, pine tar, rhoids. The sport is effing itself over by letting all these guys come back at all, if they want to be pure, and Yankee management does come off as greedy little cheap a-holes, holding back 6 mil. Maybe they could think about giving back to the paying public some of the revenue Arod generated during the '09 run, if they're so worried about marketability and purity.


I agree with everything you said except the "letting them back at all" part. The league messed up by not having clear and serious punishments known in advance - if not returning at all was the punishment for steroid use, that needed to be known in advance. The problem is not the lack of punishment after use of steroids by players but the lack of a policy with a serious punishment before the use started.


There were punishments
, but seriousness is not the point. You can punish all you want, but no matter when it's discovered, or when warnings or policies are issued, if the sport wants purity, than they should have enforced the no-tolerance consequence immediately. But it's a pie in the sky argument anyway. Baseball is a business, and if the Arod's and Sosa's and Bonds and McGuires are/were putting fannies in the seats, the sport's going to accomodate them in any way possible.

The Yankees just look stupid and petulant over what amounts to petty cash.


Hey, Cano is tied with Joe Pepitone at 271st!


Actually, there were no punishments. There wasn't even testing until 2003 - A-Rod's 9th season. It was similar to marijuana or any other drug that was illegal in the US but not tested or punished.
I do agree with your comments about profitability and the Yankees looking dumb though.
OT: Yankees won't pay A-Rod HR bonus

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