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BasketballJones
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3/10/2015  4:19 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:More news on this recently:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/world/asia/white-house-faults-gop-senators-letter-to-irans-leaders.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/09/world/middleeast/document-the-letter-senate-republicans-addressed-to-the-leaders-of-iran.html

47 Senate Republicans wrote a letter directly to the Iranian leadership with a short lesson on the US Constitution(?!?) warning that any agreement between the Obama and Khamenei administrations without Congressional approval could be immediately revoked by the next president.

I agree that from my reading of the Constitution, ideally this agreement/treaty should be put to a vote. But man, the GOP are really being wildcards here: first inviting the Israel PM and now directly communicating with the Iranian government, all around Obama and the State Department. Congresspeople running around the Executive in foreign policy isn't a new thing — Pelosi met with Assad in 2007, McDermott from Washington State and 2 other Congresspeople went to Iraq in 2002. I'm not opposed to challenges from the Congress regarding foreign affairs as a check and balance but this just seems beyond the pale.

Well, it would be if we had a legitimate president. But this one isn't. He wasn't even born in this country. He doesn't love America the way real Americans do, and he's a democrat. So why would we trust him to negotiate with Iran, and why would the usual norms of political behavior apply?

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3/10/2015  4:21 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:More news on this recently:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/world/asia/white-house-faults-gop-senators-letter-to-irans-leaders.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/09/world/middleeast/document-the-letter-senate-republicans-addressed-to-the-leaders-of-iran.html

47 Senate Republicans wrote a letter directly to the Iranian leadership with a short lesson on the US Constitution(?!?) warning that any agreement between the Obama and Khamenei administrations without Congressional approval could be immediately revoked by the next president.

I agree that from my reading of the Constitution, ideally this agreement/treaty should be put to a vote. But man, the GOP are really being wildcards here: first inviting the Israel PM and now directly communicating with the Iranian government, all around Obama and the State Department. Congresspeople running around the Executive in foreign policy isn't a new thing — Pelosi met with Assad in 2007, McDermott from Washington State and 2 other Congresspeople went to Iraq in 2002. I'm not opposed to challenges from the Congress regarding foreign affairs as a check and balance but this just seems beyond the pale.

Well, it would be if we had a legitimate president. But this one isn't. He wasn't even born in this country. He doesn't love America the way real Americans do, and he's a democrat. So why would we trust him to negotiate with Iran, and why would the usual norms of political behavior apply?

I guess that makes Obama a fake fan

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3/10/2015  6:02 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:More news on this recently:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/world/asia/white-house-faults-gop-senators-letter-to-irans-leaders.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/09/world/middleeast/document-the-letter-senate-republicans-addressed-to-the-leaders-of-iran.html

47 Senate Republicans wrote a letter directly to the Iranian leadership with a short lesson on the US Constitution(?!?) warning that any agreement between the Obama and Khamenei administrations without Congressional approval could be immediately revoked by the next president.

I agree that from my reading of the Constitution, ideally this agreement/treaty should be put to a vote. But man, the GOP are really being wildcards here: first inviting the Israel PM and now directly communicating with the Iranian government, all around Obama and the State Department. Congresspeople running around the Executive in foreign policy isn't a new thing — Pelosi met with Assad in 2007, McDermott from Washington State and 2 other Congresspeople went to Iraq in 2002. I'm not opposed to challenges from the Congress regarding foreign affairs as a check and balance but this just seems beyond the pale.

Well, it would be if we had a legitimate president. But this one isn't. He wasn't even born in this country. He doesn't love America the way real Americans do, and he's a democrat. So why would we trust him to negotiate with Iran, and why would the usual norms of political behavior apply?

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holfresh
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3/12/2015  12:27 PM
Close to 225,00 people has signed a petition on Whitehouse.gov to file charges against the 47 U.S. Senators in violation of The Logan Act in attempting to undermine a nuclear agreement.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/file-charges-against-47-us-senators-violation-logan-act-attempting-undermine-nuclear-agreement/NKQnpJS9
DrAlphaeus
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3/12/2015  1:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2015  1:28 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:More news on this recently:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/world/asia/white-house-faults-gop-senators-letter-to-irans-leaders.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/09/world/middleeast/document-the-letter-senate-republicans-addressed-to-the-leaders-of-iran.html

47 Senate Republicans wrote a letter directly to the Iranian leadership with a short lesson on the US Constitution(?!?) warning that any agreement between the Obama and Khamenei administrations without Congressional approval could be immediately revoked by the next president.

I agree that from my reading of the Constitution, ideally this agreement/treaty should be put to a vote. But man, the GOP are really being wildcards here: first inviting the Israel PM and now directly communicating with the Iranian government, all around Obama and the State Department. Congresspeople running around the Executive in foreign policy isn't a new thing — Pelosi met with Assad in 2007, McDermott from Washington State and 2 other Congresspeople went to Iraq in 2002. I'm not opposed to challenges from the Congress regarding foreign affairs as a check and balance but this just seems beyond the pale.

Well, it would be if we had a legitimate president. But this one isn't. He wasn't even born in this country. He doesn't love America the way real Americans do, and he's a democrat. So why would we trust him to negotiate with Iran, and why would the usual norms of political behavior apply?

Ha, yea... he is foreign-born! Oh OK maybe he was born in Hawaii but his mother was too young for him to be a natural-born citizen! And anyway, his middle name is Hussein and he grew up in a madrasah in Indonesia! He's clearly a Moslem! Except when he goes to Christian churches that preach "God Damn America"! And he's carrying out his father's anti-colonialist fatwa! Even though I thought we were supposed to be anti-colonialist. So I guess anti-colonialist really just means anti-Western Civilization! Except he's a socialist! Marxism the only part of Western civilization he cares about! He gives his wife terrorist fist jabs! And he threw his poor white grandparents under the bus in that race speech! He's also a tyrant governing by fiat! Except he bows down to foreign leaders and diminishes American exceptionalism! Well whatever he is, he's not a God-fearing American like you and me!

I wish the real world had an Ignore button. I'd set that bad boy to ignore all this crap and make sure it stays active all through the 2016 election.

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holfresh
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3/12/2015  1:34 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:More news on this recently:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/world/asia/white-house-faults-gop-senators-letter-to-irans-leaders.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/09/world/middleeast/document-the-letter-senate-republicans-addressed-to-the-leaders-of-iran.html

47 Senate Republicans wrote a letter directly to the Iranian leadership with a short lesson on the US Constitution(?!?) warning that any agreement between the Obama and Khamenei administrations without Congressional approval could be immediately revoked by the next president.

I agree that from my reading of the Constitution, ideally this agreement/treaty should be put to a vote. But man, the GOP are really being wildcards here: first inviting the Israel PM and now directly communicating with the Iranian government, all around Obama and the State Department. Congresspeople running around the Executive in foreign policy isn't a new thing — Pelosi met with Assad in 2007, McDermott from Washington State and 2 other Congresspeople went to Iraq in 2002. I'm not opposed to challenges from the Congress regarding foreign affairs as a check and balance but this just seems beyond the pale.

Well, it would be if we had a legitimate president. But this one isn't. He wasn't even born in this country. He doesn't love America the way real Americans do, and he's a democrat. So why would we trust him to negotiate with Iran, and why would the usual norms of political behavior apply?

Ha, yea... he is foreign-born! Oh OK maybe he was born in Hawaii but his mother was too young for him to be a natural-born citizen! And anyway, his middle name is Hussein and he grew up in a madrasah in Indonesia! He's clearly a Moslem! Except when he goes to Christian churches that preach "God Damn America"! And he's carrying out his father's anti-colonialist fatwa! Even though I thought we were supposed to be anti-colonialist. So I guess anti-colonialist really just means anti-Western Civilization! Except he's a socialist! Marxism the only part of Western civilization he cares about! He gives his wife terrorist fist jabs! And he threw his poor white grandparents under the bus in that race speech! He's also a tyrant governing by fiat! Except he bows down to foreign leaders and diminishes American exceptionalism! Well whatever he is, he's not a God-fearing American like you and me!

I wish the real world had an Ignore button. I'd set that bad boy to ignore all this crap and make sure it stays active all through the 2016 election.

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