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smackeddog
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3/4/2015  1:47 PM
fishmike wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yea I don't get the need to constantly harp on his lack of playing 30mins when it's clear kentucky is stacked in the front court and he can afford to be aggressive defensively because of it
because when your great you still take over games, regardless of who is around you. Towns doesnt take over game. He plays a role. He's had some moments where he shows he's easily the best player. Other moments he just floats and lets the other "stacked" players carry the load. Chris Webber played on the most "stacked" team ever perhaps. Still put up 15/10 at 18 years old and 20/10 the following year.

Why does me pointing out facts disturb you so? Are you now totally emotionally vested in Towns and blind to reality? Anyone that has "concerns" = hating?

You realize Towns isnt the best defender on his own team? Thats Stein, and Towns is allowed to freelance more. How's that translate in the NBA?

I did read somewhere that Towns isn't as good a defender as people think- something about his lateral speed being a step slow. I don't watch him enough to know whether this is true or not.

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gunsnewing
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3/4/2015  2:00 PM
smackeddog wrote:
fishmike wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yea I don't get the need to constantly harp on his lack of playing 30mins when it's clear kentucky is stacked in the front court and he can afford to be aggressive defensively because of it
because when your great you still take over games, regardless of who is around you. Towns doesnt take over game. He plays a role. He's had some moments where he shows he's easily the best player. Other moments he just floats and lets the other "stacked" players carry the load. Chris Webber played on the most "stacked" team ever perhaps. Still put up 15/10 at 18 years old and 20/10 the following year.

Why does me pointing out facts disturb you so? Are you now totally emotionally vested in Towns and blind to reality? Anyone that has "concerns" = hating?

You realize Towns isnt the best defender on his own team? Thats Stein, and Towns is allowed to freelance more. How's that translate in the NBA?

I did read somewhere that Towns isn't as good a defender as people think- something about his lateral speed being a step slow. I don't watch him enough to know whether this is true or not.

Completely off base. Maybe they were talking about OK4? Lateral quickness is certainly a question mark with OK4. Will be be able to keep NBA PF gazelles from getting to the rim?

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3/4/2015  2:03 PM
don't let the per game numbers fool you... freshman big men don't usually start out playing 30mpg... guys like hakeem, embiid, robinson started out playing about 18-23mpg also and had similar production...

also the fact that kentucky has a lot of big men ... everyone is discounting what he is doing because of that... and while it certainly isn't a bad thing... if you watch the games and look at the numbers... it's more likely that towns is making them better rather than the other way around...

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3/4/2015  2:27 PM
Calipari is on with francesa.

Pretty much reaffirmed everything I've been saying about Towns.

He credited his team for being unselfish and checking their egos at the door and he put Karl Towns on the FT line in the clutch because he has upmost confidence in him. He expects his body at 26 to be a lot more developed than at 19. Even at 19 he pushes guys around and plays big

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3/4/2015  2:30 PM
FistOfOakley wrote:don't let the per game numbers fool you... freshman big men don't usually start out playing 30mpg... guys like hakeem, embiid, robinson started out playing about 18-23mpg also and had similar production...

also the fact that kentucky has a lot of big men ... everyone is discounting what he is doing because of that... and while it certainly isn't a bad thing... if you watch the games and look at the numbers... it's more likely that towns is making them better rather than the other way around...

Great points. Stein's stock has risen because of playing next to Towns. I said it before 19yr olds don't usually play 30mins. They are baby's. Ok4 is the exception because his offense is so polished. How he effectively translates to the nba we will see

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3/4/2015  4:16 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
fishmike wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yea I don't get the need to constantly harp on his lack of playing 30mins when it's clear kentucky is stacked in the front court and he can afford to be aggressive defensively because of it
because when your great you still take over games, regardless of who is around you. Towns doesnt take over game. He plays a role. He's had some moments where he shows he's easily the best player. Other moments he just floats and lets the other "stacked" players carry the load. Chris Webber played on the most "stacked" team ever perhaps. Still put up 15/10 at 18 years old and 20/10 the following year.

Why does me pointing out facts disturb you so? Are you now totally emotionally vested in Towns and blind to reality? Anyone that has "concerns" = hating?

You realize Towns isnt the best defender on his own team? Thats Stein, and Towns is allowed to freelance more. How's that translate in the NBA?

I did read somewhere that Towns isn't as good a defender as people think- something about his lateral speed being a step slow. I don't watch him enough to know whether this is true or not.

Completely off base. Maybe they were talking about OK4? Lateral quickness is certainly a question mark with OK4. Will be be able to keep NBA PF gazelles from getting to the rim?

Not completely off base. He has slowish big heavy feet which he does make up for to some extent with his bball IQ.

I love the kid and hope we get him but he does seem to be dragging those big feet with him all the time.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/4/2015  4:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/4/2015  4:22 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:don't let the per game numbers fool you... freshman big men don't usually start out playing 30mpg... guys like hakeem, embiid, robinson started out playing about 18-23mpg also and had similar production...

also the fact that kentucky has a lot of big men ... everyone is discounting what he is doing because of that... and while it certainly isn't a bad thing... if you watch the games and look at the numbers... it's more likely that towns is making them better rather than the other way around...

Great points. Stein's stock has risen because of playing next to Towns. I said it before 19yr olds don't usually play 30mins. They are baby's. Ok4 is the exception because his offense is so polished. How he effectively translates to the nba we will see

Great point. Stein has taken off next to Towns. Not the other way around because Towns just got there. But at 19 years old playing 20 mpg his numbers are unreal. And not only his rebounding and shot blocking are impressive, but his free throw shooting is in a class of its own for a 19 year old big man. He is a true 2-way player as much as a freshman big man can be. He has shown elite skills on both ends in his statistics and from the eye test.

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