CrushAlot wrote:Celtics are now in the mix for Dragic.

I don't get why they'd do that- they need to stick with developing their young players

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:If the Knicks gave up their pick for Dragic would you be okay as a fan if it was lottery protected?

No, because if we're giving up 1st rounders I'd rather we just traded for Lowry last season! All we have to do from this day forward is not trade 1st rounders EVER- we always regret it.

But we always regret all trades and FA signings too

We are filled with regrets! I am trying to comfort myself with your gamblers fallacy theorem- just because every decision we've made over the past decade and more has been wrong, it doesn't man our next one won't be right. Or maybe we should just do the opposite, like George in Seinfeld.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I like Dragic but would be shocked if NY would trade for him now. There is no reason to, first of all as Dragic is a a FA in a few months. NY does not have the assets to make a deal either.

NY's rebuilding depends on how the draft goes. If they draft big then expect a G through FA and vice versa.

The only thing NY should be actively doing is trading Calderon to get $40M of cap space. Everything else is just passing time.

This is a tough call. If we get Dragic's Bird rights, that's a solid value for us moving forward. That said, I also agree that we should not trade future first rounders unless it's for a key last piece to contend. If it's lottery protected, then I'd probably pull the trigger.

Anyway, it's nice to have options and at least be in the discussion.

gunsnewing wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:The media is saying we can trade this year's lottery pick for Dragic. We all know that is impossible

Only after you have drafted him but why on earth would we especially since we are likely to get Okafor,Towns,or Russell

The problem is that those guys probably won't be in their primes while Melo is. If you want to just say these few years are shot and we can do real rebuilding once Melo's contract expires, that's another story. But our draft pick won't even be on his rookie contract then. I don't think a half rebuild, half starphuck model will work.

That's why I want to sign young players like like Monroe and a good young SG and a cheap PG. We will have a good core 4yrs from now when Melo is off the books. In the meantime the knicks need to accumulate as many picks and assets as possible to build the team the right way once Melo is gone.

Otherwise it's going to be the same vicious cycle of starting from zero in 4 years

Melo wants a chip for his "legacy". If the Knicks decide to go the rebuild route, we would have to trade Melo for picks and filler.

I would be totally fine with this approach. I sort of agree with Bonn that doing a half-rebuild, half-starphuck approach is unlikely to work.

CrushAlot wrote:At this point the Knicks need to use money to get guys like Dragic not assets.

I was against signing Dragic because we need more of a distributor, but a half a season audition to show that Dragic can play in the triangle wouldn't be a bad idea. That is if they don't give away the store to get him.

GustavBahler wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:At this point the Knicks need to use money to get guys like Dragic not assets.

I was against signing Dragic because we need more of a distributor, but a half a season audition to show that Dragic can play in the triangle wouldn't be a bad idea. That is if they don't give away the store to get him.

gunsnewing wrote:Miami in the mix. What do they have to offer? That's a good spot if Dragic wants to win

There is no argument that Dragic would fit great here. There is also no argument that THJR basically is not ready for prime time with his game. Plumlee would be a nice cheap starting center and a fantastic back up depending what or future holds.

If the Knicks can get back to winning 2018 first rounder would not matter as much.