Splat wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Splat wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Splat wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it comes out of the new team's pocket

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2014-15-nba-trade-kickers/

It is the team trading away the player that is responsible for paying the bonus — unless the contract was signed prior to the 2011 Collective Bargaining Agreement (Toronto Raptors’ Amir Johnson and Cleveland Cavaliers’ Anderson Varejao), which is then paid by the acquiring franchise.

well that's good.
I'm sure Dolan would be pissed if they re-signed him just to play 2 months here and had to paid the $17 mil trade kicker though.

I think Dolan is the kind of dolt who will do it if someone like Isiah or Phil tells him its the right move. He seems to be susceptible to certain peoples charms and then will do anything they say. Well, hopefully this is the case!

I agree. Dolan has Daddy issues. Phil is perfect to fill that money pit hole in Dolan's heart.

I don't know why you guys bash Dolan so much. He turned over the show to Phil and Phil is going to turn this team around. Dolan is a good owner he dishes out money so you can't ask for anymore than that from an owner. You guys got it wrong he has brought so many quality winners here to help the Knicks. There is no doubt that Phil will change the culture here he is going to make winners out of the Knicks.

Yeah, Dolan has been a good owner. Sorry, you're right.

Yeah i was trying to figure out whether that post was sarcasm or not.

F500ONE wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Splat wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Splat wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it comes out of the new team's pocket

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2014-15-nba-trade-kickers/

It is the team trading away the player that is responsible for paying the bonus — unless the contract was signed prior to the 2011 Collective Bargaining Agreement (Toronto Raptors’ Amir Johnson and Cleveland Cavaliers’ Anderson Varejao), which is then paid by the acquiring franchise.

well that's good.
I'm sure Dolan would be pissed if they re-signed him just to play 2 months here and had to paid the $17 mil trade kicker though.

????

Dolan is the one who pays it

Right, and that's why I'm saying he'd be pissed.
These two awful months with Melo would cost him an additional $17 mil

The other thing is you pay $17 mil but then that gets you out from having to pay the total $124 or whatever it is...So its not too bad a sell, Id imagine.

The team that takes him on has to pay the kicker

This is why team's ask if a player will waive it to do a trade

The only possibly drawback is trying to go even steven on a deal dollar for dollar[another Kicker dude]

Then in that case it could be like taking back $17mil in addition

Take for instance as in what took place in the Raptors-Knicks trade which I had no freakin idea

Holy Rank Buckets this trade was Violently Wretched//////

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/tradekickers.jsp

Toronto to New York
Andrea Bargnani

5% - added $1,162,500 to 2013/14 salary.

lol @ Bargs banking an additional $1.2mil last year just because he exist

That contract was signed before the current CBA. Melo's contract stipulates that the Knick's pay the kicker.

Splat wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Splat wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Splat wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:
I'm pretty sure it comes out of the new team's pocket

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2014-15-nba-trade-kickers/

It is the team trading away the player that is responsible for paying the bonus — unless the contract was signed prior to the 2011 Collective Bargaining Agreement (Toronto Raptors’ Amir Johnson and Cleveland Cavaliers’ Anderson Varejao), which is then paid by the acquiring franchise.

well that's good.
I'm sure Dolan would be pissed if they re-signed him just to play 2 months here and had to paid the $17 mil trade kicker though.

????

Dolan is the one who pays it

Right, and that's why I'm saying he'd be pissed.
These two awful months with Melo would cost him an additional $17 mil

The other thing is you pay $17 mil but then that gets you out from having to pay the total $124 or whatever it is...So its not too bad a sell, Id imagine.

The team that takes him on has to pay the kicker

This is why team's ask if a player will waive it to do a trade

The only possibly drawback is trying to go even steven on a deal dollar for dollar[another Kicker dude]

Then in that case it could be like taking back $17mil in addition

Take for instance as in what took place in the Raptors-Knicks trade which I had no freakin idea

Holy Rank Buckets this trade was Violently Wretched//////

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/tradekickers.jsp

Toronto to New York
Andrea Bargnani

5% - added $1,162,500 to 2013/14 salary.

lol @ Bargs banking an additional $1.2mil last year just because he exist

No, we are obligated to pay the kicker, not the receiving team. It is a lump sum payment at the time of the trade made by the Knicks, not a running expense added to the contract at the new destination.

This must have changed in the new CBA

Or maybe I'm confused in how the kicker is applied

Hey I was wrong about how the amount was calculated so this would

Only make the deal so much more worse as we've already given this jerk everything under the sun

But I was going from a source back in the day

This link says the Kicker follows the team in transaction

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?page=TradeKicker101

1. Garnett only has a limited ability to waive his trade kicker. He can't just waive it to make a trade easier -- even if he wanted to -- no matter what you've heard or read. The rules state that Garnett only can waive the amount necessary to make a deal legal based on salary-cap rules.

So how would this work in real life?

Garnett's salary for next season is $22 million and the trade kicker is $6.75 million, meaning that Boston would have to accommodate $28.75 million in salary and send out at least $22.92 million in a trade if Garnett is to receive the full bonus.

The trade includes the following five Celtics for a total of $18,921,547: Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair and Ryan Gomes. Boston can only take back $23,751,934 in salary, meaning Garnett would have to consent to waiving nearly $5 million of his trade kicker … $4,998,066 to be exact.

Garnett's take-home trade bonus would thus be reduced to $1,751,934. But the assumption is that he would more than make that back in the long-term extension he's expected to receive from the Celtics as part of this extravaganza.

Not in case in this Garnett example it's saying Sota would pay the $1.75mil bonus and not Boston

It still affected Boston on meeting the TPE minimum requirements dollar wise

All-in-All Melo's deal so awful only Phil's $60mil

Allows him to sleep at night because Rodman feels so assured Phil is miserable right now

Lakers is one of them. If they want Melo instead of their 1st rd pick this year would be awesome.

Melo for Nash, Lin, Julius Randle and their 2015 1st round pick. They can have a last hurrah for Kobe with Melo.

We basically get Randle and their lottery pick for Melo. If this happens then next year we have 3 players picked in the lottery in our roster.

Fans are going to start booing melo soon at MSG.

If we did trade Melo to the Lakers for their ending contracts--I hope we get some assets with it. With the salary cap moving back up Melos contract will be reasonable over a couple of years.

we have a great deal of LOW IQ players around melo(who's not the smartest guy in town) who suck bad, or their dumb as fck..

Vmart wrote:

Knixkik wrote:@IanBegley: Source close to Carmelo Anthony says report that he is considering waving no trade clause for trade from #Knicks is "definitely not true."

Well that was fast.

If that docu drama didn't tell you he wants out.

TeamBall wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Knixkik wrote:@IanBegley: Source close to Carmelo Anthony says report that he is considering waving no trade clause for trade from #Knicks is "definitely not true."

Well that was fast.

If that docu drama didn't tell you he wants out.

The one that he filmed in the summer?

Yeah. The one where he said Chicago was ideal. He only took the Knicks for the Money. Get your money first and get your destination second.

Vmart wrote:

Knixkik wrote:@IanBegley: Source close to Carmelo Anthony says report that he is considering waving no trade clause for trade from #Knicks is "definitely not true."

Well that was fast.

If that docu drama didn't tell you he wants out.

Yeah this is Rose basically protecting client publicly

But putting it out there, that if you want to meet

Give us a call and we can thus say, there was the desire from within

To get my client out of town