BigDaddyG wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:Typical over reaction the morning after.

Dude broke his leg in a game. Dudes used to go play Rucker, Olympics, Worlds, etc etc for decades and very few incidents.

IN the big scheme of things he did lose an limb, lose his career, lose his abilty to feed his family or sense of sight, hearing or taste. He broke his leg. Could have done it working out.

My prayers are for the children in Gaza and they be kept safe, Prayers for the children in Israel that a rocket does not kill them. Not praying for Paul George. I feel bad, but perspective.

Paul George broke his leg in front of a lot of people and will lose a year of his career.

Lets get perspective.

If a player don't want to play like Love did, then its cool. The young guys want to play, thats cool. I bet in the history of the olympics and other tournaments the injury frequency is miniscule. Free agents should not play. Free agents have to work out? You bet they do.

Bad things happen to all of us.

Be careful, don't get hurt!

+1

Not sure I agree here.

Didn't Blake Griffin get hurt a year or two ago

Blake got hurt in a preseason game. Should we end preseason? What about summer league or those stupid international exhibitions? I agree that players who are recovering from injuries or are in their free agency year should not be pressured into playing. But I don't agree that pro players should be restricted from playing international ball. If anything it's better that they get injured in a controlled atmosphere like Team USA instead of a pickup game in some college gym.

Nope///// injured it in Olympic practice scrimmage like I thought

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8160453/los-angeles-clippers-blake-griffin-miss-olympics-meniscus-tear

Let's keep Paul George in our minds, our hearts and our prayers.

IronWillGiroud wrote:Look, I mean, injuries happen. If it's your day, it's your day. Doesn't matter if you're driving a Hummer, driving the lane in Summer League or jumping off a cliff--- it is what it is.

Let's keep Paul George in our minds, our hearts and our prayers.

I don't know. IMO this was a preventable injury. You rarely see such a devastating injury like that. There's no way that they should be playing in an arena that has dimensions which make things tighter. Comparing the clearance under the basket in a normal NBA arena it's something all athletes get used to having the room to land. These guys are too big and athletic to not give them enough room under there.

If Indiana Pacers guard Paul George misses the 2014-15 season – and that's a strong possibility after sustaining a fractured tibia and fibula in a USA Basketball showcase Friday – the Pacers can receive some salary cap relief under a clause called the disabled player exception.

According to the 2011 collective bargaining agreement, the Pacers can sign a player to a one-year deal for "an amount equal to the non-taxpayer mid-level salary exception," which is $5.305 million for 2014-15 season.

The Pacers could also acquire a player for the same amount plus $100,000, but that player must have just one year left on his contract, according the CBA.

USATODAY
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Paul George recovering from surgery for fracture
The Pacers must apply for a disabled player exception with the league office.

The CBA states "the determination of whether a player has suffered a Disabling Injury or Illness shall be made by a physician designated by the NBA, who shall review the relevant medical information and, if the physician deems it appropriate, examine the player.The NBA shall advise the Players Association of the determination of its physician within one (1) business day of such determination.

"In the event the Players Association disputes the NBA physician's determination, the parties will immediately refer the matter to a neutral physician (to be selected by the parties at the commencement of each Salary Cap Year) to review the relevant medical information and, if the neutral physician deems it appropriate, examine the player.

"Within three (3) business days of receipt of such information (and examination of the player, if requested), the neutral physician shall make a final determination, which will be final, binding and unappealable."

According to CBA expert Larry Coon's comprehensive FAQ, the Pacers would have 45 days to acquire a replacement player.

Last season, the NBA approved a disabled player exception for the Brooklyn Nets, who lost center Brook Lopez to a season-ending injury, and Atlanta Hawks, who lost forward-center Al Horford to a season-ending injury.

The New Orleans Pelicans also were granted a disabled player exception for forward Ryan Anderson, who sustained a back injury in January last season.

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I think this would open up an opportunity for Shawn Marion who has had little rumors despite not showing much deteration despite his age
He has great versatility and is still one of the better SF/PF's in the league that can do a bit of EVERYTHING

Indiana currently has NO PICKS COMING IN or OUTGOING PICKS

Their current salary is under 74m, predictably under the luxury tax at about, but not if they decide to use the trade exemption which I am not sure would count against the cap for tax or not...
They are not repeat offenders, so I think Bird will look to spend regardless, it is just which positions and to try to gain an "ASSET" or "WIN NOW MODE with a vet like Marion"

With the loss of Lance Stephenson in addition to now Paul George...
Will Larry Bird see this as an opportunity to get more ping pong balls, grab assets, and cut down salaries, *could still sign a player

1- First Danny Granger's injury who was once viewed as the "franchise player"
2- There is also the decline of Roy Hibbert after many consecutive improvements every year, as one of the DPOY nominee's/1st/2nd team DEFENSIVE teams, then his huge decline last season
3- Then losing Lance Stephenson for nothing
4- Now Paul George's injury

European sharpshooter with his signing of a 30year old, Damjan Rudez, "rookie" veteran, comparable to a Peja Stojakvic but seems a bit "tougher" was a complete steal for 3year, total 3.6m deal

David West
Roy Hibbert
George Hill

Damjan Rudez *I think one of the most under rated signings and great finds by the Pacer's, that will need to STEP IT UP for Pacer's to contend*
Scola

The above will have to all take bigger roles with possible tweaks on both OFFENSE AND DEFENSE in their schemes/system without Paul George

Stuckey/CJ Watson/ Lavoy Allen
Development of Solomon Hill
CJ Miles
Copeland
Mahimi/Lavoy Allen

With about 5.3m (in a FA signing) to 5.5m (in a trade)
As a small market team, will they use this money?
They could be borderline tax payers if so, depending if Paul George's contract would still count against the cap this season *which I think does*

It will take a collective group effort, as they do have some talented players despite their losing their 2 most arguably talented players in George and Lance Stephenson
Not only will some players need to take bigger roles like David West, Hibbert, George Hill, but some others must step up, though it is in the East which I think has improved though
There could be some unexpected heroes like

Rudez/Stuckey/Copeland/Solomon Hill/Watson in addition to their main core of David West/George Hill/Roy Hibbert *bouncing back, after working out with Kareem*
Even with their 2 losses, I think it is too early to knock them off as play off contenders because they have been one of the better defensive and rebounding teams the past couple of years
Though some tweaks will be made, they still have to build some chemistry with their newly acquired talents and loss of their most talented and young 2

Also Pacer's have non initiated their OFF with a penetrating PG, however, with Stuckey as a combo guard, and Ramon Sessions as a UFA, they could look to do that in addition to Watson, along with their post presences in West/Hibbert and sharp shooters

F500ONE wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:Typical over reaction the morning after.

Dude broke his leg in a game. Dudes used to go play Rucker, Olympics, Worlds, etc etc for decades and very few incidents.

IN the big scheme of things he did lose an limb, lose his career, lose his abilty to feed his family or sense of sight, hearing or taste. He broke his leg. Could have done it working out.

My prayers are for the children in Gaza and they be kept safe, Prayers for the children in Israel that a rocket does not kill them. Not praying for Paul George. I feel bad, but perspective.

Paul George broke his leg in front of a lot of people and will lose a year of his career.

Lets get perspective.

If a player don't want to play like Love did, then its cool. The young guys want to play, thats cool. I bet in the history of the olympics and other tournaments the injury frequency is miniscule. Free agents should not play. Free agents have to work out? You bet they do.

Bad things happen to all of us.

Be careful, don't get hurt!

+1

Not sure I agree here.

Didn't Blake Griffin get hurt a year or two ago

Blake got hurt in a preseason game. Should we end preseason? What about summer league or those stupid international exhibitions? I agree that players who are recovering from injuries or are in their free agency year should not be pressured into playing. But I don't agree that pro players should be restricted from playing international ball. If anything it's better that they get injured in a controlled atmosphere like Team USA instead of a pickup game in some college gym.

Nope///// injured it in Olympic practice scrimmage like I thought

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8160453/los-angeles-clippers-blake-griffin-miss-olympics-meniscus-tear

From the article referenced above.

Colangelo suggested the soreness in Griffin's knee was related to an injury he suffered during the 2012 NBA playoffs.
"The reality is, that injury took place at the end of the season," Colangelo said. "And he had an option to get scoped and he opted not to get scoped. And so, I guess he aggravated it."

I was referencing this injury, which was far more serious and forced Blake to miss the season.

http://Http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=4823032&city=losangeles&src=desktop

Your link is broke.

If you're referencing his knee stress fracture, that was rookie season.

As far as his injury prior to seasons end of 2012, doesn't matter if it was preexisting

He aggravated it during Olympic practice scrimmage that summer, which led to surgery

Let's look at it this way.

If Colangelo was GM of a team considering a trade for a player with a pre-existing knee injury, surgery recommended

How do you think he goes about handling the trade before agreeing to it

If Colangelo was GM of a team considering drafting a player with a pre-existing knee injury surgery recommended.

How do you think he goes about handling the draft

Yet if a player with similar circumstances has been asked to play for the USA team

He wants to treat it as a it's on the player to make sacrifices or not

No how about you give the players a thorough physical and make a strong recommendation they not play

No how about you make sure their environment of play is safe

He sounds like a sour grape inconsiderate Olympic committee exec in the quotes above, much the same he was this summer.

After Blake pulled back only to hear a story leaked[probably by him] Blake had a fractured back, Colangelo needs to cut the crap

Be more considerate of these franchises investments and quit with the narrow minded view of country representation.

How could a polished exec such as him look over not meeting NBA/FIBA playing environment control

Interesting how after Paul George got injured he speaks to the press his injury is bigger than USA basketball

And he feels great angst for Bird and Pacer organization, no kidding

I remember a couple yrs back Cuban told Dirk you're not playing, no questions asked end of story

How are you going to blame Colangelo for Blake neglecting to take care of himself. I'm pretty sure if Blake was honest with the Clippers about his meniscus tear, they would have told him not to play. If anyone is at fault, it's Blake. I'll be honest, I don"t recall Colangelo throwing Blake under the bus this year. If anything, it was probably Blake's camp that leaked the story due to the bad press he was getting for quitting on the team. Again, I don't blame Blake for leaving. He did the responsible thing this time nd is taking the time to rest. These players want to play for team USA. If teams want to ban pros from playing the Olympics, they have the right. But it would be a shortsighted move. Again, what's next? Summer League? Pre-Season? These guys are playing ball over the summer anyway. What's a better way for them to practice and improve than the controlled environment provided by team USA. What would be next? Banning professionals from playing in the World Cup or Olympic Hockey? Injuries happen. It's a shame what happened to George, but banning pros from playing in the Olympics would be a shortsighted move.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:Look, I mean, injuries happen. If it's your day, it's your day. Doesn't matter if you're driving a Hummer, driving the lane in Summer League or jumping off a cliff--- it is what it is.

Let's keep Paul George in our minds, our hearts and our prayers.

I don't know. IMO this was a preventable injury. You rarely see such a devastating injury like that. There's no way that they should be playing in an arena that has dimensions which make things tighter. Comparing the clearance under the basket in a normal NBA arena it's something all athletes get used to having the room to land. These guys are too big and athletic to not give them enough room under there.

i don't know,

how hard was he balling?

games like this are a run out, he should've been been taking it easy, we don't know, i don't know--- didn't see the game,

was he huffing and puffing or just running out to get loose? it all depends

Probably could have bee prevented altogether if he didnt challenge the shot....just kidding.

But these are pros, they know their surrounding rather well and this isnt the first time Paul George has played there.

Now depending on what is reporting at least one stated the sanction is only 1` inch closer than the NBA standard of 4 feet.

Even the NBA arenas arent uniform in that....some are much futher back.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/stevecarprj/statuses/495668735655813121

I thought people looked at the replay and said that it was too *far* from the baseline.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:Look, I mean, injuries happen. If it's your day, it's your day. Doesn't matter if you're driving a Hummer, driving the lane in Summer League or jumping off a cliff--- it is what it is.

Let's keep Paul George in our minds, our hearts and our prayers.

I don't know. IMO this was a preventable injury. You rarely see such a devastating injury like that. There's no way that they should be playing in an arena that has dimensions which make things tighter. Comparing the clearance under the basket in a normal NBA arena it's something all athletes get used to having the room to land. These guys are too big and athletic to not give them enough room under there.

i don't know,

how hard was he balling?

games like this are a run out, he should've been been taking it easy, we don't know, i don't know--- didn't see the game,

was he huffing and puffing or just running out to get loose? it all depends

Probably could have bee prevented altogether if he didnt challenge the shot....just kidding.

But these are pros, they know their surrounding rather well and this isnt the first time Paul George has played there.

Now depending on what is reporting at least one stated the sanction is only 1` inch closer than the NBA standard of 4 feet.

Even the NBA arenas arent uniform in that....some are much futher back.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/stevecarprj/statuses/495668735655813121

I thought people looked at the replay and said that it was too *far* from the baseline.

If it was too far, PG wouldnt have made contact with it. It certainly is closer than normal arenas, but this isnt a place he hasnt played before. It was merely a freak accident that could have happened anywhere.

Look at Briggs' comments and the replies. People were saying that the players are not used to it being that far and he didn't expect it to be there.

The stanchion definitely is closer to the baseline, but it's reportedly just 1 inch closer than nba standard. Most arenas exceed the standard by several feet, but this isnt the first time nba players have played @ t&m.

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:Look, I mean, injuries happen. If it's your day, it's your day. Doesn't matter if you're driving a Hummer, driving the lane in Summer League or jumping off a cliff--- it is what it is.

Let's keep Paul George in our minds, our hearts and our prayers.

I don't know. IMO this was a preventable injury. You rarely see such a devastating injury like that. There's no way that they should be playing in an arena that has dimensions which make things tighter. Comparing the clearance under the basket in a normal NBA arena it's something all athletes get used to having the room to land. These guys are too big and athletic to not give them enough room under there.

i don't know,

how hard was he balling?

games like this are a run out, he should've been been taking it easy, we don't know, i don't know--- didn't see the game,

was he huffing and puffing or just running out to get loose? it all depends

Probably could have bee prevented altogether if he didnt challenge the shot....just kidding.

But these are pros, they know their surrounding rather well and this isnt the first time Paul George has played there.

Now depending on what is reporting at least one stated the sanction is only 1` inch closer than the NBA standard of 4 feet.

Even the NBA arenas arent uniform in that....some are much futher back.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/stevecarprj/statuses/495668735655813121

I thought people looked at the replay and said that it was too *far* from the baseline.

If it was too far, PG wouldnt have made contact with it. It certainly is closer than normal arenas, but this isnt a place he hasnt played before. It was merely a freak accident that could have happened anywhere.

Look at Briggs' comments and the replies. People were saying that the players are not used to it being that far and he didn't expect it to be there.

I'm hoping his saying "far out" means too close to the court, but he even mentions the rim, which was regulation, so I really dont know what he meant.

The stanchion definitely is closer to the baseline, but it's reportedly just 1 inch closer than nba standard. Most arenas exceed the standard by several feet, but this isnt the first time nba players have played @ t&m.

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