Vmart wrote:

tkf wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don't find this as a bad thing. There is only one ball to go around this is a formula for disaster. Bosh already averaging 15 points per game is he going to drop that to 10 points per game, How about Wade he is on the down turn and only get worse with time. After they get together they become just 4. They pointed it out yesterday that the Heat defense is getting worse too. Melo isn't going to help that to much.

Only thing going for Miami is that there is absolutely no team in the east with talent and that's what it comes to. There are no challengers, it's Miami by default.

huh? indy? washington? orlando has a ton of picks, the Hornets? I don't agree with that man.. the east will be rapidly improving.. just watch..

Indy is vastly overrated, Washington is just learning to win, if you are looking 2-3 years into the future then I agree with you but as of now Miami still is the beast of the east. I don't really see them being challenged by any team in the east.

WHAT IS so overrated about indy? they went to back to back ECF's and their best players are 22 and 23 years old? did you have them rated higher? vastly overrated? I mean come on man you act as if people had them as a finals shoe in and they finished with our record.... what they are now consistently proving is that they are clearly the second best team in the east behind miami and with a tweak here or there can surpass them.

washington, Atlanta, and the Hornets are all playoff teams, with picks, and youth and they are improving fast... orlando has a potential beast in oladipo and plenty of picks... it may not take 2-3 years for those teams to pose a threat.. miami is getting older, and it is showing a bit..

tkf wrote:

Vmart wrote:

tkf wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don't find this as a bad thing. There is only one ball to go around this is a formula for disaster. Bosh already averaging 15 points per game is he going to drop that to 10 points per game, How about Wade he is on the down turn and only get worse with time. After they get together they become just 4. They pointed it out yesterday that the Heat defense is getting worse too. Melo isn't going to help that to much.

Only thing going for Miami is that there is absolutely no team in the east with talent and that's what it comes to. There are no challengers, it's Miami by default.

huh? indy? washington? orlando has a ton of picks, the Hornets? I don't agree with that man.. the east will be rapidly improving.. just watch..

Indy is vastly overrated, Washington is just learning to win, if you are looking 2-3 years into the future then I agree with you but as of now Miami still is the beast of the east. I don't really see them being challenged by any team in the east.

WHAT IS so overrated about indy? they went to back to back ECF's and their best players are 22 and 23 years old? did you have them rated higher? vastly overrated? I mean come on man you act as if people had them as a finals shoe in and they finished with our record.... what they are now consistently proving is that they are clearly the second best team in the east behind miami and with a tweak here or there can surpass them.

washington, Atlanta, and the Hornets are all playoff teams, with picks, and youth and they are improving fast... orlando has a potential beast in oladipo and plenty of picks... it may not take 2-3 years for those teams to pose a threat.. miami is getting older, and it is showing a bit..

Look the east is watered down Atlanta a sub 500 team took them for a ride, to me that makes Pacers vastly overrated. They have nothing in that team just a Paul George and a decent PF at best. Where is the talent?

Vmart wrote:

tkf wrote:

Vmart wrote:

tkf wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don't find this as a bad thing. There is only one ball to go around this is a formula for disaster. Bosh already averaging 15 points per game is he going to drop that to 10 points per game, How about Wade he is on the down turn and only get worse with time. After they get together they become just 4. They pointed it out yesterday that the Heat defense is getting worse too. Melo isn't going to help that to much.

Only thing going for Miami is that there is absolutely no team in the east with talent and that's what it comes to. There are no challengers, it's Miami by default.

huh? indy? washington? orlando has a ton of picks, the Hornets? I don't agree with that man.. the east will be rapidly improving.. just watch..

Indy is vastly overrated, Washington is just learning to win, if you are looking 2-3 years into the future then I agree with you but as of now Miami still is the beast of the east. I don't really see them being challenged by any team in the east.

WHAT IS so overrated about indy? they went to back to back ECF's and their best players are 22 and 23 years old? did you have them rated higher? vastly overrated? I mean come on man you act as if people had them as a finals shoe in and they finished with our record.... what they are now consistently proving is that they are clearly the second best team in the east behind miami and with a tweak here or there can surpass them.

washington, Atlanta, and the Hornets are all playoff teams, with picks, and youth and they are improving fast... orlando has a potential beast in oladipo and plenty of picks... it may not take 2-3 years for those teams to pose a threat.. miami is getting older, and it is showing a bit..

Look the east is watered down Atlanta a sub 500 team took them for a ride, to me that makes Pacers vastly overrated. They have nothing in that team just a Paul George and a decent PF at best. Where is the talent?

FIRST OF ALL the hawks team is a well coached team, but to judge the pacers on that alone doesn't make sense.. the east is watered down yet the pacers not only had the best record in the east, but they also have a good record vs the teams in the west. I posted their record vs the western conf.. before... but if the east is weak then should we also be saying that the heat is overrated as well?

They have nothing in that team just a Paul George and a decent PF at best

Just a paul george? lol.. yea just the 3rd best SF in the league behind lebron and durant.. but don't forget lance stephenson who is extremely talented.. trust me, if he were on the knicks now, he instantly becomes the best player on our team... lance is a beast...

Hibbert had a off year, but the guy is still a defensive force, and he is a center..

west is much better than just a decent PF.. are you kidding me?

you see what indy has are very good and young foundation pieces... lance and PG are two young studs.. you can build around those two wing players, easily... and west is still a heck of a PF on both ends of the floor..

but you haven't answered my question? how are they vastly overrated, they are clearly the second best team in the east? were they rated any higher than that?

jrodmc wrote:Rather than waste any more words on stale, overdone Melohate, how about we change the subject completely?

What about the possibility of this Big Four, should the Heat flame out in 5 games:

Melo stays
Lebron comes here
Love signs here because he's honestly sick of not even making the playoffs
Durant comes here to be with his friend Derek and leave the Westkook far behind.

Keep FluTyson. Who needs a PG? Melo can finally play the 3 and rest his shoulder.

Our bench is then filled with mass filthiness, and role players for quality minutes.

Philip, make this happen please!

But, but, but....that would destroy the NBA! Think about the others. Isn't that what a lot of Knicks fans are saying if he goes to Miami?

Look, I would like Melo to be here, on a good, solid, well built team. But this dude, who forced his way here, doesn't help make it happen.

He could have signed a 3 year deal on the advice of his bff and be a free agent at the same time as them in 2010, he didn't heed his advice and signed for 5 for more guaranteed money. (That should tell you something about THIS free agency)

Then, instead of waiting one season, he forces a bidding war and comes to an empty team and then gets mad because he has to pass it to Jarred Jeffries and Tony Douglas on Celtic triple teams. Why? Because OMMMGGGG...there was gonna be a lockout! And the future of the NBA was uncertain! Gasp! He HAD to make sure he signed an extension before the new CBA was reached because Lord knows, he had a family to feed, and a contract under the new CBA would have put him out on the streets!

Now, he has an opportunity to make 24 million next season and fix his past mistakes, but he's DOING THE SAME ****ing thing all over again..becoming a free agent and trying to make moves AT THE WRONG TIME and asking his current team to do something while they have their hands tied behind their backs. It's the story of his life...and that's why people like me, who don't necessarily hate his game or his effort or anything else about him, are sick of him. I don't even think he's a selfish player on the court like others (I just think he's dumb and has a low bbIQ) But he's proven time and time again he puts himself first off the court as well.

And a big **** you to Donnie Walsh for giving Amare that extra year for no reason.

We don't need that. I'd put up with it if he was Lebron Jordan or Kobe

I rather start over with a competent front office for the 1st time

Gsus wrote:

ShellTopAdidas wrote:Maybe we can trade Melo to Miami for something.....ANYTHING!!! I'll take some old 2Live Crew videos at this point! I'm so OVER Melo it ain't even funny!

Bosh? He seems like the odd man out in Miami. Phil should call The Rat and ask him to do a sign and swap. Go after somebody next year, or maybe even Durant in 2016. Bosh has proven he is an unselfish guy and will do what is asked of him. He is being utilized so poorly in Miami, it's unfathomable.

Every time down, they should be running a pick and roll with him and Lebron, but they don't. Lebron is the best finisher in the league, and Bosh is the most efficient mid range game on that team and one of the most in the entire league...how that isn't their bread and butter baffles me.

He would make an incredible triangle player. He's more efficient, taller, better shooter and unselfish than the guy who after making promises here is opting out because he's "never gotten a taste of unrestricted free agency" in his career. WTF...that's your reason? I thought you were already where you wanted to be? And if you wanted a taste of free agency, ummmm...

YOU SHOULD HAVE TASTED IT 3 FUCKING YEARS AGO SO WE COULD HAVE USED THOSE PIECES TO GET YOU YOUR BUTT BUDDY IN L.A.!

GTFO.

BigDaddyG wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Gsus wrote:

ShellTopAdidas wrote:Maybe we can trade Melo to Miami for something.....ANYTHING!!! I'll take some old 2Live Crew videos at this point! I'm so OVER Melo it ain't even funny!

Bosh? He seems like the odd man out in Miami. Phil should call The Rat and ask him to do a sign and swap. Go after somebody next year, or maybe even Durant in 2016. Bosh has proven he is an unselfish guy and will do what is asked of him. He is being utilized so poorly in Miami, it's unfathomable.

Every time down, they should be running a pick and roll with him and Lebron, but they don't. Lebron is the best finisher in the league, and Bosh is the most efficient mid range game on that team and one of the most in the entire league...how that isn't their bread and butter baffles me.

He would make an incredible triangle player. He's more efficient, taller, better shooter and unselfish than the guy who after making promises here is opting out because he's "never gotten a taste of unrestricted free agency" in his career. WTF...that's your reason? I thought you were already where you wanted to be? And if you wanted a taste of free agency, ummmm...

YOU SHOULD HAVE TASTED IT 3 FUCKING YEARS AGO SO WE COULD HAVE USED THOSE PIECES TO GET YOU YOUR BUTT BUDDY IN L.A.!

GTFO.

Stephen A. on espn saying that Riles would have to move Bosh somewhere to get Melo and convince Wade to take less money. Not sure if Riles would move him to the Knicks but it certainly would be better than Melo leaving and the Knicks getting nothing if PJax could bring Bosh back.
In regards to Melo and free agency three years ago. There was a lockout pending and the owners had said they were going to rein in free agency. With that pending I don't have an issue with his wanting a trade to get a new deal in place. It would have cost him over 20 mil to leave Denver after the new cba was put in place.

I guess that's good news. I can't see the Heat trading Bosh for Melo, especial if they lose this series. It would make them smaller and worse defensively.Either way, Wade is going to have to take less money if the heat wants to improve.

What they can do is try to work out a trade with Phx who is looking to make a push. Let Bosh go back to being a number two guy and he will probably be a better version of Lamarcus Aldridge.

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Interesting that if Melo goes to Miami as a free agent reports are that he will lose 70 million to put himself in a better situation to win a championship. He was only supposed to lose a little over 20 mil if he waited and became a free agent and valued the team more than money three years ago.

Yeah, some people would say he's a ring chaser and lose respect for him. I'd actually gain tons of respect for Melo if he valued winning enough to make that kind of sacrifice, though. And I think Miami would be an exciting team.

Is that what you prefer, 1 exciting eastern conference team and 13 avg teams.

Taking less money to win a championship on a team that sacrifice a lot to get you, I can appreciate that, not taking less money to play with other super stars.

actofgod wrote:

ShellTopAdidas wrote:Maybe we can trade Melo to Miami for something.....ANYTHING!!! I'll take some old 2Live Crew videos at this point! I'm so OVER Melo it ain't even funny!

Damn I used to love "the fvck shop", that song was awesome.

I hope there is some sort of ploy to get Melo on Miami and it is already done. That would be tampering, and we'd get a ton of picks for it. Miami would have no picks for a long time and everyone would be old and with no help. Win-win