BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Top 30 list draft Ill do round 2 later

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#1 Joel Embiid C (Caveat is health if health 100%)

#2 Andrew Wiggins G/F

#3 Jabari Parker F

--this tier is set any of these guys could go number 1

#4 Marcus Smart PG

#5 Julius Randle PF

#6 Jusuf Nurkic C

#7 Rodney Hood G/F

#8 T J Warren F

#9 Aaron Gordon F

#10 Dante Exum G

#11 Jordan Clarkson PG

#12 Noah Vonleh PF

#13 Shabazz Napier
#14 James Young G

#15 Zach Lavine G

#16 Doug Mcdermott

#17 Glenn Robinson G

#18 Nick Staukus G

#19 Dario Saric F

#20 K J Mcdaniels F

#21 Jarnell Stokes PF

#22 Elfrid Payton PG

#23 Tyler Ennis PG

#24 Adrien Payne PF

#25 Jordan Bachynski C

#26 Gary Harris G

#27 Kyle Andersen G

#28 Jabari Brown G

#29 Jordan Adams G

#30 Isiah Austin F

Is this a list of where you think guys will go or is it based on talent? I noticed you have soured a little on Lavine and Kyle Anderson.

Kind of my own rough draft based on talent

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Top 30 list draft Ill do round 2 later

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#1 Joel Embiid C (Caveat is health if health 100%)

#2 Andrew Wiggins G/F

#3 Jabari Parker F

--this tier is set any of these guys could go number 1

#4 Marcus Smart PG

#5 Julius Randle PF

#6 Jusuf Nurkic C

#7 Rodney Hood G/F

#8 T J Warren F

#9 Aaron Gordon F

#10 Dante Exum G

#11 Jordan Clarkson PG

#12 Noah Vonleh PF

#13 Shabazz Napier
#14 James Young G

#15 Zach Lavine G

#16 Doug Mcdermott

#17 Glenn Robinson G

#18 Nick Staukus G

#19 Dario Saric F

#20 K J Mcdaniels F

#21 Jarnell Stokes PF

#22 Elfrid Payton PG

#23 Tyler Ennis PG

#24 Adrien Payne PF

#25 Jordan Bachynski C

#26 Gary Harris G

#27 Kyle Andersen G

#28 Jabari Brown G

#29 Jordan Adams G

#30 Isiah Austin F

Is this a list of where you think guys will go or is it based on talent? I noticed you have soured a little on Lavine and Kyle Anderson.

Kind of my own rough draft based on talent

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Top 30 list draft Ill do round 2 later

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#1 Joel Embiid C (Caveat is health if health 100%)

#2 Andrew Wiggins G/F

#3 Jabari Parker F

--this tier is set any of these guys could go number 1

#4 Marcus Smart PG

#5 Julius Randle PF

#6 Jusuf Nurkic C

#7 Rodney Hood G/F

#8 T J Warren F

#9 Aaron Gordon F

#10 Dante Exum G

#11 Jordan Clarkson PG

#12 Noah Vonleh PF

#13 Shabazz Napier
#14 James Young G

#15 Zach Lavine G

#16 Doug Mcdermott

#17 Glenn Robinson G

#18 Nick Staukus G

#19 Dario Saric F

#20 K J Mcdaniels F

#21 Jarnell Stokes PF

#22 Elfrid Payton PG

#23 Tyler Ennis PG

#24 Adrien Payne PF

#25 Jordan Bachynski C

#26 Gary Harris G

#27 Kyle Andersen G

#28 Jabari Brown G

#29 Jordan Adams G

#30 Isiah Austin F

Is this a list of where you think guys will go or is it based on talent? I noticed you have soured a little on Lavine and Kyle Anderson.

Kind of my own rough draft based on talent

Why so high on Hood and what made you change your mind about McDermott, Lavine and Kyle Anderson.

Im never high on mcermott my guess him lavine mid range picks pretty good spots? Andersen I soured on alittle but hes higher than I have him--thats too low. I like Hood reminds me a little of Paul George Jalen Rose combo.

I think Lavine is gaining buzz and will be a late lottery, especially if Smart an Exum get tabbed in the top 6, I think Hood and McDermott are pretty close, especially after the combine. They'll probably go mid first, maybe sneak into first round. I have no idea where Kyle will go. His game is a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder. I think your guy Bachynski might sneak into the first round. Teams always seem to pick that one 7-footer who "has low upside, but is ready to contribute immediately" every year in the first round. Austin might have worked himself ito the first round, but Adams and Brown will struggle. Adams, who I think will be a solid role player, has the pure jump shot going in his favor. That might get a team to bite in the first round. I think Jabari Brown is going to have kill it during his team workouts.

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Top 30 list draft Ill do round 2 later

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#1 Joel Embiid C (Caveat is health if health 100%)

#2 Andrew Wiggins G/F

#3 Jabari Parker F

--this tier is set any of these guys could go number 1

#4 Marcus Smart PG

#5 Julius Randle PF

#6 Jusuf Nurkic C

#7 Rodney Hood G/F

#8 T J Warren F

#9 Aaron Gordon F

#10 Dante Exum G

#11 Jordan Clarkson PG

#12 Noah Vonleh PF

#13 Shabazz Napier
#14 James Young G

#15 Zach Lavine G

#16 Doug Mcdermott

#17 Glenn Robinson G

#18 Nick Staukus G

#19 Dario Saric F

#20 K J Mcdaniels F

#21 Jarnell Stokes PF

#22 Elfrid Payton PG

#23 Tyler Ennis PG

#24 Adrien Payne PF

#25 Jordan Bachynski C

#26 Gary Harris G

#27 Kyle Andersen G

#28 Jabari Brown G

#29 Jordan Adams G

#30 Isiah Austin F

Is this a list of where you think guys will go or is it based on talent? I noticed you have soured a little on Lavine and Kyle Anderson.

Kind of my own rough draft based on talent

Why so high on Hood and what made you change your mind about McDermott, Lavine and Kyle Anderson.

Im never high on mcermott my guess him lavine mid range picks pretty good spots? Andersen I soured on alittle but hes higher than I have him--thats too low. I like Hood reminds me a little of Paul George Jalen Rose combo.

I think Lavine is gaining buzz and will be a late lottery, especially if Smart an Exum get tabbed in the top 6, I think Hood and McDermott are pretty close, especially after the combine. They'll probably go mid first, maybe sneak into first round. I have no idea where Kyle will go. His game is a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder. I think your guy Bachynski might sneak into the first round. Teams always seem to pick that one 7-footer who "has low upside, but is ready to contribute immediately" every year in the first round. Austin might have worked himself ito the first round, but Adams and Brown will struggle. Adams, who I think will be a solid role player, has the pure jump shot going in his favor. That might get a team to bite in the first round. I think Jabari Brown is going to have kill it during his team workouts.

Jabari Brown reminds me of a Spur.

Nalod wrote:swishFM3, I tend to agree with you about his draft position and think he is not that high. He has good fundamental footwork in the paint but college is not the NBA and where he gets a lot of points is where the translation to the next level is a big challange. Is outside game is good, but so are lots of other guys.

I take it you reside in the triangle, NC region?

I stay by the coast near the beaches..MCAS Cherry Point. A good buddy is an NC State Alum so I sometimes go to the BBall games with him

BRIGGS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Top 30 list draft Ill do round 2 later

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#1 Joel Embiid C (Caveat is health if health 100%)

#2 Andrew Wiggins G/F

#3 Jabari Parker F

--this tier is set any of these guys could go number 1

#4 Marcus Smart PG

#5 Julius Randle PF

#6 Jusuf Nurkic C

#7 Rodney Hood G/F

#8 T J Warren F

#9 Aaron Gordon F

#10 Dante Exum G

#11 Jordan Clarkson PG

#12 Noah Vonleh PF

#13 Shabazz Napier
#14 James Young G

#15 Zach Lavine G

#16 Doug Mcdermott

#17 Glenn Robinson G

#18 Nick Staukus G

#19 Dario Saric F

#20 K J Mcdaniels F

#21 Jarnell Stokes PF

#22 Elfrid Payton PG

#23 Tyler Ennis PG

#24 Adrien Payne PF

#25 Jordan Bachynski C

#26 Gary Harris G

#27 Kyle Andersen G

#28 Jabari Brown G

#29 Jordan Adams G

#30 Isiah Austin PF

Round 2

#31 Markel Brown G

# 32 Cameron Bairstow PF

# 33 P J Hairston G

#34 Cory Jefferson F

#35 Mitch Mcgary C

#36 Deandre Daniels F

#37 Ronald Roberts

# 38 Jahii Carson PG

#39 Cleanthony Early F

# 40 Clint Capella F

#41 Deonte Burton PG

#42 Alec Brown F

#43 Nick Johnson G

#44 Patrick Young F/C

#45 Russ Smith PG

#46 Dwight Powell PF

#47 Vasilje Micic #48 Deandre Kane PG

#49 Sean Kilpatrick G

# 50 C J Wilcox G

#51 Semaj Christon PG

#52 Spencer Dinwiddie G

#53 C J Fair F

#54 James Mcadoo PF

#55 Kristaps Porzingis F

#56 Johnny Obryant PF

# 57 Chaz Williams PG

#58 Casey Prather F

#59 Walter Taveras C

#60 Jakar Sampson F

in that order, I would love

Burton With that talent/physical ability I don't think Burton would slip past the late 1st rounder to early 2nd round pick, he has lottery type potential
LATEST is early/mid 2nd rounder with a 3 year deal with that type of combination of athleticism/explosiveness/strength/ability to penetrate/finish/score/ and handle the ball
Ironically, I think his game is comparable to a YOUNG Raymond Felton but on steroids, making his potential/ceiling 10x higher

Dinwiddie , he can become a George Hill 2.0, with a BETTER shot, similar to a taller Billups with the right development
Winwiddie has one of the best overall BB IQ, smarts, ability to defend, and has a very nice shooting touch like Billups with NBA range

DeAndre Kane *undrafted*a 4 year senior, with improvements EVERY YEAR and the ability to play PG/SG like Lilliard has with Dinwiddie being the same if he recovers and gets stronger

I would love all 3 players to be the PG's of any team, especially for the NYK's, all different type of PG's that bring different dynamics, and all being steals a bit under the radar

I don't think Dinwiddie would go that far but he is recovering from an ACL injury so it isn't impossible

I would want Phil Jackson to call Kane up immediately personally, with Ron Harper as his mentor/development project to recruit him for the triangle, COMPLETE STEAL for a 4year proven college player

Lebron forms a new "big three" this time with the youngins' Irving and Embiid and this way he rides
Out his prime with a younger core that has a metric fuhuck load of potential. Imagine those three playing to their potentials? Fuhuck me four times to Sunday that team would be a juggernaut.

BRIGGS wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced the Cavs take Embiid and that lures Lebron back to Cleveland, ditching Miami in heartbreaking style just as he did to CLE.

Lebron forms a new "big three" this time with the youngins' Irving and Embiid and this way he rides
Out his prime with a younger core that has a metric fuhuck load of potential. Imagine those three playing to their potentials? Fuhuck me four times to Sunday that team would be a juggernaut.

We could have a good draft by simply buying 2-3 of Philly's 5 2nd rounders and waiting out the process. I think good players will be there and can really help this team.

yellowboy90 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced the Cavs take Embiid and that lures Lebron back to Cleveland, ditching Miami in heartbreaking style just as he did to CLE.

Lebron forms a new "big three" this time with the youngins' Irving and Embiid and this way he rides
Out his prime with a younger core that has a metric fuhuck load of potential. Imagine those three playing to their potentials? Fuhuck me four times to Sunday that team would be a juggernaut.

We could have a good draft by simply buying 2-3 of Philly's 5 2nd rounders and waiting out the process. I think good players will be there and can really help this team.

A lot of Point guard prospects will be available as free agents. It doesn't look like Burton, Kane or Carson really distinguished themselves at the Clippers' combine. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/LA-Clippers-Mini-Combine-Recap-and-Analysis-4559/
Craft did what you'd expect and Wilbekin looked good according to DX's write-up. Andre Dawkins is another guy I'd like to sign if he doesn't get drafted. Real good three-point shooter in the Trent Tucker/Craig Hodges mold. Ronald Roberts showed off his athleticism, but lacked offensive polish. It looks like Russ Smith bounced back after a subpar NBA combine.

I'm bias but I think Wilbekin is Craft with better distance shooting. The kid has great mechanics he just needs to grow as a finisher and floor general. I hope NY takes him as an UFA because his on ball D has been top notch since he was a 17 year old freshman. I mean how often can you get a 20 year old senior.

BigDaddyG wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced the Cavs take Embiid and that lures Lebron back to Cleveland, ditching Miami in heartbreaking style just as he did to CLE.

Lebron forms a new "big three" this time with the youngins' Irving and Embiid and this way he rides
Out his prime with a younger core that has a metric fuhuck load of potential. Imagine those three playing to their potentials? Fuhuck me four times to Sunday that team would be a juggernaut.

We could have a good draft by simply buying 2-3 of Philly's 5 2nd rounders and waiting out the process. I think good players will be there and can really help this team.

A lot of Point guard prospects will be available as free agents. It doesn't look like Burton, Kane or Carson really distinguished themselves at the Clippers' combine. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/LA-Clippers-Mini-Combine-Recap-and-Analysis-4559/
Craft did what you'd expect and Wilbekin looked good according to DX's write-up. Andre Dawkins is another guy I'd like to sign if he doesn't get drafted. Real good three-point shooter in the Trent Tucker/Craig Hodges mold. Ronald Roberts showed off his athleticism, but lacked offensive polish. It looks like Russ Smith bounced back after a subpar NBA combine.

I'm bias but I think Wilbekin is Craft with better distance shooting. The kid has great mechanics he just needs to grow as a finisher and floor general. I hope NY takes him as an UFA because his on ball D has been top notch since he was a 17 year old freshman. I mean how often can you get a 20 year old senior.

I like Wilbekin too. I think Craft is more physical on D, which is something I wish we had on the Knicks. Scottie is a solid outside shooter and he puts in the effort on D. If I had to choose one for summer league, I'd pick Craft. But I wouldn't have a problem signing Wilbekin either.

See, I think the outside shooting is key especially for a triangle guard. Craft is good but I worry about his shot. Both of them will have to survive in a Patrick Berverly type role but Pat shoots the 3 very well. Also, I do not know about Craft but Wilbekin is used to playing off the ball and being used as a spot up player.

I want both if available as a UFA and let the summer decide. They both might learn a little something overseas though.

Finestrg wrote:Not the perfect fit because we have a lot of 2Gs but I'm with Ron -- I like the look of this kid from Colorado Spencer Dinwiddie. Big guard at 6'6", he can pass, handle it well, penetrate, create, shoot it well from 3 and make his FTs. Been trying to research if he's fully healed from the torn ACL -- if he is, even with our surplus of big guards, I like this kid a lot with a late pick. Doesn't look like an above the rim athlete that relies on explosiveness so you figure the ACL recovery may not be as big a deal for him as some others that may have been more athletic but then had to reinvent their games post ACL injury...Don't see that with this kid -- he's athletic and shifty but more of a heady, crafty type. Looks real smooth and ready to jump in and contribute right away NBA. And for all you triangle guys -- 6'6" with his skills looks like a perfect fit. Maybe we can get that Philly pick at 32 and grab this kid...

Tell ya what, I know it won't hapen but if we somehow managed to move Shumpert and THJ (maybe even JR Smith as well) and replaced those guys with this kid Dinwiddie and Terrence Williams (another guy made for the triangle with his wide array of skills) I wouldn't be too upset about it. Then go out and try to get a truer PG for balance, preferably one with talent, speed and a little experience (Mills or Collison?), and maybe another reserve PG on the cheap somewhere with similar quickness/ability (Kalin Lucas?) or maybe another guy that can handle/initiate the offense/knock down open jumpers (Seth Curry?), we could have a brand new, souped up backcourt with a ton of versatility. All doable too. All those guys together would be light years ahead of what we went to war with in the backcourt this year imo.

Dinwiddie is my target as well --- good kid, big/long/talented -- can get to the rim and can knock down long ball.