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playa2
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2/16/2014  11:23 AM
If Carmelo Anthony's main goal was winning a Championship with the NY KNICKS, he would have signed with the team in the off season while they had a core(two-way players)already on the team to mask his deficiencies.
Why didn't Jim Boheim school him then about what he should have done in order to win a title on the next level?

Can't have your cake and eat it to.

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2/16/2014  11:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2014  11:27 AM
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

I thought winning is > then job security.... According to Melo. No doubt, history will repeat itself. Melo will put his contract before winning
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2/16/2014  11:28 AM
playa2 wrote:If Carmelo Anthony's main goal was winning a Championship with the NY KNICKS, he would have signed with the team in the off season while they had a core(two-way players)already on the team to mask his deficiencies.
Why didn't Jim Boheim school him then about what he should have done in order to win a title on the next level?

Can't have your cake and eat it to.

Let's look at the reality of the situation instead of just throwing up answers to see if they stick..What players and at what salary...Do you think Gallo is a better fit for this team in Chandler's salary slot???..Does Wilson Chandler make us better than JR Smith does, although we might have to pay Mayor more money...Can that team with Moz in the middle compete with Miami??...
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2/16/2014  11:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2014  11:30 AM
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

I thought winning is > then job security.... According to Melo. No doubt, history will repeat itself. Melo will put his contract before winning

If winning was the most important thing then no player would take more than 5 mil a year in the NBA...
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2/16/2014  11:46 AM
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

I thought winning is > then job security.... According to Melo. No doubt, history will repeat itself. Melo will put his contract before winning

If winning was the most important thing then no player would take more than 5 mil a year in the NBA...

Dirk Nowitzky "maybe i didn't take less enough".
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2/16/2014  11:46 AM
playa2 wrote:If Carmelo Anthony's main goal was winning a Championship with the NY KNICKS, he would have signed with the team in the off season while they had a core(two-way players)already on the team to mask his deficiencies.
Why didn't Jim Boheim school him then about what he should have done in order to win a title on the next level?

Can't have your cake and eat it to.

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2/16/2014  12:57 PM
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

he comes up short in the playoffs most of the time. what's with this "max attention therefore max deal" canard? you just making circular shyte up.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/16/2014  1:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2014  1:08 PM
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

he comes up short in the playoffs most of the time. what's with this "max attention therefore max deal" canard? you just making circular shyte up.

Not really, just explaining why he would opt out now and not next year..So u do read, U just select which post to reply to and others u don't, no guts as usual, just a slanted opinion...
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2/16/2014  1:31 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

he comes up short in the playoffs most of the time. what's with this "max attention therefore max deal" canard? you just making circular shyte up.

Not really, just explaining why he would opt out now and not next year..So u do read, U just select which post to reply to and others u don't, no guts as usual, just a slanted opinion...

Does anyone here reply to every post?
For most, this is a hobby, not their life's work
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2/16/2014  1:34 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

he comes up short in the playoffs most of the time. what's with this "max attention therefore max deal" canard? you just making circular shyte up.

Not really, just explaining why he would opt out now and not next year..So u do read, U just select which post to reply to and others u don't, no guts as usual, just a slanted opinion...

Does anyone here reply to every post?
For most, this is a hobby, not their life's work

Why get involved if you don't know the history or the crux of the discussion???
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2/16/2014  1:46 PM
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

I thought winning is > then job security.... According to Melo. No doubt, history will repeat itself. Melo will put his contract before winning

If winning was the most important thing then no player would take more than 5 mil a year in the NBA...

If winning was the most important thing to owners, they wouldn't continue to put together useless rosters that have no chance of competing for a Championship.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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2/16/2014  1:50 PM
playa2 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

I thought winning is > then job security.... According to Melo. No doubt, history will repeat itself. Melo will put his contract before winning

If winning was the most important thing then no player would take more than 5 mil a year in the NBA...

If winning was the most important thing to owners, they wouldn't continue to put together useless rosters that have no chance of competing for a Championship.

There are only about 2 or 3 teams that has a legit shot at winning in any given year, what do u suggest the 27 other teams do who has bills to pay??
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2/16/2014  3:03 PM
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

I thought winning is > then job security.... According to Melo. No doubt, history will repeat itself. Melo will put his contract before winning

If winning was the most important thing then no player would take more than 5 mil a year in the NBA...

If winning was the most important thing to owners, they wouldn't continue to put together useless rosters that have no chance of competing for a Championship.

There are only about 2 or 3 teams that has a legit shot at winning in any given year, what do u suggest the 27 other teams do who has bills to pay??

actually the way it works is the bigger markets fund money to the smaller markets....via revenue sharing.

A team like the Bobcats arent even playing with their own money.
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2/16/2014  4:42 PM
knickscity wrote:
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

I thought winning is > then job security.... According to Melo. No doubt, history will repeat itself. Melo will put his contract before winning

If winning was the most important thing then no player would take more than 5 mil a year in the NBA...

If winning was the most important thing to owners, they wouldn't continue to put together useless rosters that have no chance of competing for a Championship.

There are only about 2 or 3 teams that has a legit shot at winning in any given year, what do u suggest the 27 other teams do who has bills to pay??

actually the way it works is the bigger markets fund money to the smaller markets....via revenue sharing.

A team like the Bobcats arent even playing with their own money.

Not disagreeing - but the whole NBA is probably a more profitable enterprise and all teams including big market ones make more money if there are 30 than say 15 teams.
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3/2/2014  6:33 AM
Rappers delight

Given the complexity of their options, including a cap-clogging contract for Anthony that would carry him to 35, perhaps no worse off than if they started from scratch.

- Harvey Araton

Start over, mark 2015 as the year we got a tv to see the Knicks play basketball.

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3/2/2014  8:24 AM
2015 - the year I got my first tv. I like that! Just wipe away being subjected to 15yrs of inept basketball
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3/2/2014  9:49 AM
Don't push me cause I'm close to the edge, I'm jus tryin not to lose my season tickets

gunsnewing - in your haste, you may have missed the music history reference.

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3/2/2014  10:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2014  10:28 AM
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Rookie wrote:
holfresh wrote:
djsunyc wrote:well the big question is whether melo is educated on how nba transactions can take place.

if he looks at the knicks situation, the only real way to improve the roster dramtically will be in the summer of 2015. any move made in the interim will not make a big difference or will decrease opportunities in 2015.

so...can melo wait and sacrifice a year of his prime next season?

i think that's the big question and i don't think he can. earl is right, you need to trade him asap. unfortunately, the knicks probably rank as one of the worst front offices in the league so they won't.

what's amazing is that melo's declaration for free agency to start the season has basically made this season moot and having all knicks fans talking about what to do in 2015. unreal.

You can't trade Melo unless he OKs it..he holds all the cards..No one will give anything of value for him unless its a salary dump...

This right here. If Melo is telling the truth, he will not opt out and re-sign for less after his contract expires and we have cap room in 2015 to sign these other players he is recruiting similar to the way the three amigo's did it.

The risk is that he stays healthy and still playing at a level that garners max attention and a max deal...Bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bushes...

I thought winning is > then job security.... According to Melo. No doubt, history will repeat itself. Melo will put his contract before winning

If winning was the most important thing then no player would take more than 5 mil a year in the NBA...

If winning was the most important thing to owners, they wouldn't continue to put together useless rosters that have no chance of competing for a Championship.

There are only about 2 or 3 teams that has a legit shot at winning in any given year, what do u suggest the 27 other teams do who has bills to pay??

Do what the Pistons did with Chuck Daily, all the favorites got the vapors, from getting a dose of gritty team basketball

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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