playa2 wrote:MIKE WOODROW WILSON SHOULD RESIGN FOR A LACK OF A PLAN AND STRATEGY FOR THE PLAYERS HE HAS ON HIS ROSTER

This guy is a glorified assistant, he has no plan when faced against a real "head coach"

Papabear wrote:

Nalod wrote:

playa2 wrote:from marc berman:
Carmelo Anthony, rejected emphatically again by center Roy Hibbert, called the rout “embarrassing’’ and then called out Mike Woodson for not making any adjustments to counteract the Indiana onslaught.

Anthony didn’t understand how it got away so quickly as Pacers coach Frank Vogel did all the right things after the opening period. Woodson, for his part, called it “a total team disaster.’’

“They made adjustments the way they played the pick-and-roll, the way they packed the paint and stayed with our 3-point shooters,’’ Anthony said. “They made that adjustment. We didn’t make the adjustment back to it.’’

It amazes me that people can't see what our real problem is.

As a head coach you evaluate your players on what they do well and protect them from doing things they aren't good at.

When a coach out coaches you where is your pride to put the players in the best position to win games.

Lionel Hollins plz come to NY!

I think Melo was saying the players did not adjust back to it, meaning, they did not execute. Why is it your always amazed that people can't see things you can?

Indy has best record in the NBA and playing at home.

The blame game is for losers. Its not black and white that woodson is or is not the problem. The real problem is the many factors that add up. If players don't execute the coach looks bad. You can line up coaches as many as you want year in and year out but if your roster is flawed and don't execute your not going to win more than you lose.

Papabear Says

Thats right. Look at Larry Brown we sucked so bad he got ran out of town.

Sounds like Dr. Seuss rhyme.

We're not taking advantage of any players strengths with the exception of Melo. You just don't have any real depth to the BB this team plays. Teams figure us out pretty quick and then ... Woody has nothing else. It's why Vogel punks him and other coaches always seem to look so much smarter. There's no adjustment. There's no plan B to Woody's schemes. Better coaches take away what we do and there's nothing underneath that for these players to go to or rely on for some easy buckets.

This is not a talent thing. We're just talking about X's and O's. You don't see this team using aspects of the game that would help make up for the lack of scoring in the paint. We all watched that one game were we went ISO Melo like 7 straight times. Then you have the awful lineups he puts out there. The lack of recognition of what is working or who is hot. The lack of ability to stick with combinations that work. There are lineups Woody sticks with that just don't work and he keeps forcing it every night. It's like he never gets any analytics on his team as to what is working best and what he should use more.

playa2 wrote:You can tell the knicks players want to say more in the post game interviews, about game plan and strategy and adjustments.
Tyson made a good point, even wg=hen guys are out injured, there should still be a system in place the the players go by.

Woodson is lost, so the players are lost. You don't know but a little, you can't do but a little, ask the Atlanta Hawks.

Yea which is how good teams like spurs, Miami, Indy, okc, Chicago sustain injuries and still win. System. All 15 guys accountable and ready to step in

They lack talent. They are depleted by injury.

Mistakes happen and rookies make them. Timmy jr hits a great shot then fouls Crawful and gives him 3 FT's. Rookies do that. Its ok.

This is not on Melo, its not on the coaches, its just a depleted roster.

Larry sucked and Isiah did nearly as bad.

Im done with playa's emotional blame the coach. Give players the glory but blame the coach when it goes south.

Knicks22 wrote:
Its a brutal roster, no doubt, not the coaches fault. When the two biggest deals you make in a decade (let david lee go instead overpay by a zillion for uninsured Amare (and use amnesty idiotically elsewhere), and, the trade for a scoring-gifted, but limited, Melo, your team is not going to be good.

That being said, i stand by my view that this coach has zero offensive strategy, a defensive strategy which isn't working, and a late and close tactical deficiency (Melo 1 for 20? late) that is hardly helping.

Would rather watch a talent-overmatched team play with a sound system than for a team for which the 'roster is flawed' excuse is implicitly used to allow for non-coaching.

Woodson is hardly the only, or, even the primary problem, but, for those who defend, what does he do?

You can't assess how good a coach someone is when they have a "brutal roster." Every plan - whether it's go to Melo or go to someone else, keep JR in or take him out, etc. - will come out looking bad more often than not (and fuel the Nixluva's of the forum. Even Mickey Mantle would have looked like a bad hitter if he was only allowed to use a wiffle ball bat. I could see some here saying things like "It's clear Mickey Mantle has no plan" or "It's clear Mickey Mantle is a limited hitter." But all he'd need is a decent bat.

Knicks22 wrote:
Its a brutal roster, no doubt, not the coaches fault. When the two biggest deals you make in a decade (let david lee go instead overpay by a zillion for uninsured Amare (and use amnesty idiotically elsewhere), and, the trade for a scoring-gifted, but limited, Melo, your team is not going to be good.

That being said, i stand by my view that this coach has zero offensive strategy, a defensive strategy which isn't working, and a late and close tactical deficiency (Melo 1 for 20? late) that is hardly helping.

Would rather watch a talent-overmatched team play with a sound system than for a team for which the 'roster is flawed' excuse is implicitly used to allow for non-coaching.

Woodson is hardly the only, or, even the primary problem, but, for those who defend, what does he do?

18-6
54-28

knickscity wrote:

playa2 wrote:You can tell the knicks players want to say more in the post game interviews, about game plan and strategy and adjustments.
Tyson made a good point, even wg=hen guys are out injured, there should still be a system in place the the players go by.

Woodson is lost, so the players are lost. You don't know but a little, you can't do but a little, ask the Atlanta Hawks.

Speaking of....i dont recall the Hawks improving when they fired Woody.

You know why, they kept one of his assistants and saved money.

Now they have a real coach and are doing much better.