Bonn1997 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:The sample size pretty much proves his scouting report is accurate: poor help/team defender and rim protector but great low post/iso defender. I am suprise that he does trap the pnr pretty well but he often gets lost trying to get back to his man.
Do you have the stats on the "great defender" issue? His opponent PER and points per 100 possessions are about average. I know you have those synergy stats though.
You saw them a while ago. Look at the sloan report and other articles. I just do not feel like looking it up again. I did look at his OppFG% aat the rim and saw it was at 39.1%
Oh, yeah I saw those. I thought you were referring to this season though. Is the 39.1 this year?
Yeah that's this season.
Well that's very good. I'm still concerned about how badly the team plays when Bargs is on the court though
I can't speak for what happened in Toronto, but I blame the +/- more on his teammates. Bargs is improving in almost every area, at some point its on them to raise their game as well, those who need to.
He has the worst +/- of the team's regular players, though. It's not like he has the misfortune of being on the court with other players who are bigger liabilities. He's the liability.
Someone posted about this on Knickerblogger:
Zanzibar November 24, 2013 at 1:07 amREPOST
Before Felton went out, Bargnani had been plus in these 2 lineups as the center.
(1) Bargs-Melo-Shumpert-Felton-JR (+24 overall for 70 minutes total) This unit had the highest number of minutes and second highest plus value of all lineups (+6.3/game, only slightly below +6.5 of a Chandler lineup without Bargnani).
(2) Bargs-Melo-Shumpert-Felton-MWP (+3 overall for 24 minutes)
So Felton goes out with injury, pretty logical to maybe insert your backup PG into at least that 1st lineup. So let’s check # of minutes that modified first lineup was played against Wiz and Pacers:
Bargs-Melo-Shumpert-JR-Prigs: Wizards ZERO Minutes; Indy ZERO Minutes
Well how about Beno Udrih instead of Prigs: Wizards ZERO; Pacers: 8 minutes going +3
OK well what about that second lineup using Pablo? Wizards ZERO; Pacers ZERO
And finally, Beno in that second lineup? Wizards ZERO; Pacers ZERO
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Does this make any sense to you in a supposedly stats-driven organization? A major effort has been to determine in what type of lineup Bargs fits best. There’s some logic and stats which suggest the type of lineup. And seventy minutes is a fairly large sample size. How do you not play that lineup at all against the Wizards? And how do you play Shump only 27 minutes – why not have him guard Wall the for 40 minutes? What am I missing here?
