tkf wrote:

skeng wrote:I think Shumps potential is somewhere between a luxurious Tony Allen and Paul George from this past season. This season will push Shump for sure. He has plenty of competition for the SG spot, that's for sure.

Paul george from last season? WOW!! ok then if that is the case then why are we not building around shumpert like I suggested. I mean the pacers didn't do too bad with the real Paul George.. right?

Wow indeed.. I don't think it's ludicrous for Shump to reach a level a notch below George and a notch above Allen. George had a good season this season, but he still has room for a lot of improvement. For Shump to essentially become a Paul George from '12-'13 when he's figured it all out is nothing too crazy. He would be like a high end role player IMO (Shump that is).

gunsnewing wrote:I don't understand why Woodson continued to play Kidd and Shumpert at SF. He should have worked on developing a cohesive lineup going into the playoffs. Prigioni should've started with Shumpert for ball movement and better perimeter D. He should have played Copeland with Melo more to stretch the floor and make Melos life easier. Instead we got Melo 1 on 5 perimeter chuckfest

Well he did do that and Cope looked lost in the Boston series. Also, this Shump odd man off stuff is really overblown by you. Bargs or JR has nothing to do with Bargs minutes especially when you consider Amar'e will not be playing back to backs and he will be on a minute restriction. Kenyon and Tyson will probably play reduced minutes too.

gunsnewing wrote:I don't understand why Woodson continued to play Kidd and Shumpert at SF. He should have worked on developing a cohesive lineup going into the playoffs. Prigioni should've started with Shumpert for ball movement and better perimeter D. He should have played Copeland with Melo more to stretch the floor and make Melos life easier. Instead we got Melo 1 on 5 perimeter chuckfest

because woodson is a dummy and the team is a melo-ocracy. i agree 100% that prigioni should have been back there with shumpert.

honestly the only situation that works with carmelo anthony is the triangle offense but the knicks don't have the personnel for that.

gunsnewing wrote:We had Shumpert shooting the 3 well last year Nd Woodson and Melo still didn't get him the ball enough. The. People cry that Melo doesn't have help

Maybe but Shump was also limited as just a spot shooter and occasional did other things. He shot attempts went up in the playoffs(8.3) and last year he shot the ball 9 times a game as a rookie discovering his role. Shumpert will get more FGAs and more touches especially if he has improved in the other areas of his game.

We disagree so it is what it is. I can't wait to see what will happen especially if the team stays relatively healthy coming oout of camp and throughout the season.

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We had Shumpert shooting the 3 well last year Nd Woodson and Melo still didn't get him the ball enough. The. People cry that Melo doesn't have help

you are taking things so out of context it's almost degrading to your posts

how is he doing that, If you didn't recall the the playoff game where shump scored 12 straight points to end the 3rd qtr bring us back, only to not see the ball again..I belive that was game 3 in the pacers series

Exactly my point. I saw someone say Shumpert need to do a better job of moving without the ball. What is the point if he's not getting the ball back from Melo and and JR. You would think the coach would've developed some cuts and back door plays during the meaningless 54win season so that when the playoffs started teams we'd be a little less predictable. Indy forced Melo and JR to chuck and they were both terribly inefficient. JR was worse. The offensive game plan was not good. You can ride Melo against the magic, bucks and bobcats. Not in a 7 game series vs the pacers heat and bulls

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We had Shumpert shooting the 3 well last year Nd Woodson and Melo still didn't get him the ball enough. The. People cry that Melo doesn't have help

you are taking things so out of context it's almost degrading to your posts

how is he doing that, If you didn't recall the the playoff game where shump scored 12 straight points to end the 3rd qtr bring us back, only to not see the ball again..I belive that was game 3 in the pacers series

The context of the argument that Melo doesn't have help is when the Knicks are compared to Durant/Westbrook, KG/Pierce/Rondo, LeBron/Wade/Bosh.

Shump ain't close to any of those above.

This may true martin, but what makes you think melo would change his game, from iso to team ball, even during the olympics he play the same way, he was just more efficient because he saw less double teams..Shump may not be on the level of WB/wade/rondo but he has the talent to avg 17ppg giving the attemps.

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We had Shumpert shooting the 3 well last year Nd Woodson and Melo still didn't get him the ball enough. The. People cry that Melo doesn't have help

you are taking things so out of context it's almost degrading to your posts

how is he doing that, If you didn't recall the the playoff game where shump scored 12 straight points to end the 3rd qtr bring us back, only to not see the ball again..I belive that was game 3 in the pacers series

The context of the argument that Melo doesn't have help is when the Knicks are compared to Durant/Westbrook, KG/Pierce/Rondo, LeBron/Wade/Bosh.

Shump ain't close to any of those above.

This may true martin, but what makes you think melo would change his game, from iso to team ball, even during the olympics he play the same way, he was just more efficient because he saw less double teams..Shump may not be on the level of WB/wade/rondo but he has the talent to avg 17ppg giving the attemps.

Well I watched the Olympics and they were very happy and used Anthony exactly how they wanted to use him. Anthony had a specific role with that team. He was supposed to score and rebound which he did. He wasn't iso-meloing out there. The ball DID NOT STICK with him during the Olympics. He would either catch and shoot on the wing or rebound and put it back up down low.