misterearl wrote:Come on man

gunsnewing wrote:
Don't see how Woodson plays Felton Pablo and udrih

Udrih is a 31 year old proven vet. Mike Woodson will greet him with open arms. Do you think he talks to his Indiana homey Grunwald about acquisitions? Absolutely.

Pablo plays because he is more comfortable in his role and a year wiser.

Ray Felton plays because he is a warrior who knows he has to prove himself every day.

Any questions?

Also, Beno is capable of playing some shooting guard. He's more of combo guy than a true point guard anyway. My biggest concern is that this move wouldn't leave is with anyone capable of defending the speedier point gurads. Beno plays worse D than Prigs and Felton.

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

martin wrote:

tkf wrote:why is it taking a lot of convincing to get him here? i thought all free agents would flock here to come play with carmelo? or so I was told...

dude, if you got nothing to add, please move on.

come on martin.. loosen up a bit, jeez.... no time for a little poking? I mean how many times have people regurgitated this myth that players will flock here to play with carmelo.. just some fun poking and jabbing.. no harm intended... but I will move on.....

no problem....

Papabear Says

TKF that's all you do and you are starting to rub people the wrong way because we know what you are about.

I will tell you what I'm about.. I am consistent and I don't flip flop.... I make my point and I stick by it and will defend it..

unlike you and your woe is me rant about the knicks... what will it be tomorrow papabear? will it be the good bear? or bad bear? or unhappy bear?

This coming from a guy who refers to himself in 3rd person...

Papabear Says

TKF Let's be real!I believe you are a Troll. A big time Troll What will it be tomorrow for me?? I really don't know but I surely won't be having a hate day every day like you. I can separate being upset from the raging hate you bring to this forum everyday with nothing positive to say. Now let me get back to the topic! Udirih will be a great pickup if we can get him. I'm not a happy camper but after hearing about some comments Melo is starting to make is in the honest a positive direction. We really won't know what we have until training camp and most of all what will Amare bring.With Udirih on the team that brings us another experienced point guard who can score and make smart decisions.

Troll? lol.. so this is you waving the white flag.. you have nothing to say really, so throw out the "TKF=Troll" how nice... truth is man.. you are confused.. "homer bear" is having a conflict with "reality bear".. The problem is, "papabear" doesn't know how to deal with conflicting sides.. so you get threads like the one you made, and anyone who doesn't believe what "Homerbear" believes in, they are haters and trolls... while papabear can sit back and flip flop all day long while sitting inside his glass house with his box full of stones...

as far as udrih goes, he is a serviceable player, certainly would take him over prigs.... yet this is the knicks, we don't even have enough money to entice this guy to come here to NY, without having to beg.. now we come to this... NY has to beg marginal vets to come play for us... jeeeeezus...

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

martin wrote:

tkf wrote:why is it taking a lot of convincing to get him here? i thought all free agents would flock here to come play with carmelo? or so I was told...

dude, if you got nothing to add, please move on.

come on martin.. loosen up a bit, jeez.... no time for a little poking? I mean how many times have people regurgitated this myth that players will flock here to play with carmelo.. just some fun poking and jabbing.. no harm intended... but I will move on.....

no problem....

Papabear Says

TKF that's all you do and you are starting to rub people the wrong way because we know what you are about.

I will tell you what I'm about.. I am consistent and I don't flip flop.... I make my point and I stick by it and will defend it..

unlike you and your woe is me rant about the knicks... what will it be tomorrow papabear? will it be the good bear? or bad bear? or unhappy bear?

This coming from a guy who refers to himself in 3rd person...

Papabear Says

TKF Let's be real!I believe you are a Troll. A big time Troll What will it be tomorrow for me?? I really don't know but I surely won't be having a hate day every day like you. I can separate being upset from the raging hate you bring to this forum everyday with nothing positive to say. Now let me get back to the topic! Udirih will be a great pickup if we can get him. I'm not a happy camper but after hearing about some comments Melo is starting to make is in the honest a positive direction. We really won't know what we have until training camp and most of all what will Amare bring.With Udirih on the team that brings us another experienced point guard who can score and make smart decisions.

Troll? lol.. so this is you waving the white flag.. you have nothing to say really, so throw out the "TKF=Troll" how nice... truth is man.. you are confused.. "homer bear" is having a conflict with "reality bear".. The problem is, "papabear" doesn't know how to deal with conflicting sides.. so you get threads like the one you made, and anyone who doesn't believe what "Homerbear" believes in, they are haters and trolls... while papabear can sit back and flip flop all day long while sitting inside his glass house with his box full of stones...

as far as udrih goes, he is a serviceable player, certainly would take him over prigs.... yet this is the knicks, we don't even have enough money to entice this guy to come here to NY, without having to beg.. now we come to this... NY has to beg marginal vets to come play for us... jeeeeezus...

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

martin wrote:

tkf wrote:why is it taking a lot of convincing to get him here? i thought all free agents would flock here to come play with carmelo? or so I was told...

dude, if you got nothing to add, please move on.

come on martin.. loosen up a bit, jeez.... no time for a little poking? I mean how many times have people regurgitated this myth that players will flock here to play with carmelo.. just some fun poking and jabbing.. no harm intended... but I will move on.....

no problem....

Papabear Says

TKF that's all you do and you are starting to rub people the wrong way because we know what you are about.

I will tell you what I'm about.. I am consistent and I don't flip flop.... I make my point and I stick by it and will defend it..

unlike you and your woe is me rant about the knicks... what will it be tomorrow papabear? will it be the good bear? or bad bear? or unhappy bear?

This coming from a guy who refers to himself in 3rd person...

Papabear Says

TKF Let's be real!I believe you are a Troll. A big time Troll What will it be tomorrow for me?? I really don't know but I surely won't be having a hate day every day like you. I can separate being upset from the raging hate you bring to this forum everyday with nothing positive to say. Now let me get back to the topic! Udirih will be a great pickup if we can get him. I'm not a happy camper but after hearing about some comments Melo is starting to make is in the honest a positive direction. We really won't know what we have until training camp and most of all what will Amare bring.With Udirih on the team that brings us another experienced point guard who can score and make smart decisions.

Troll? lol.. so this is you waving the white flag.. you have nothing to say really, so throw out the "TKF=Troll" how nice... truth is man.. you are confused.. "homer bear" is having a conflict with "reality bear".. The problem is, "papabear" doesn't know how to deal with conflicting sides.. so you get threads like the one you made, and anyone who doesn't believe what "Homerbear" believes in, they are haters and trolls... while papabear can sit back and flip flop all day long while sitting inside his glass house with his box full of stones...

as far as udrih goes, he is a serviceable player, certainly would take him over prigs.... yet this is the knicks, we don't even have enough money to entice this guy to come here to NY, without having to beg.. now we come to this... NY has to beg marginal vets to come play for us... jeeeeezus...

Knicks went into free agency with 3.1 mil and vet minis to offer. Not sure where the 'this is the Knicks we don't even have enough money to entice this guy to here without begging comes from'. You follow this stuff enough to understand the situation the Knicks were in at the start of the offseason. Fussing about it sounds like you were ignorant of the situation.

I am surprized that after all these years, tkf is still tkfing the tkf out of some of you. The guy is here to provide flavor and to add some yang to nixluva's yin, if you will. He has mastered mixing in just enough bball talk to enable himself to do what he does, so its nearly impossible to call him out on it.

Go Knicks and Troll Harder !

Bonn1997 wrote:

tkf wrote:why is it taking a lot of convincing to get him here? i thought all free agents would flock here to come play with carmelo? or so I was told...

That is a reasonable question. We have four max/near max contract players, and we still aren't a very attractive option. If you spend your money on max contracts well, players will want to join your team.

but only ONE is "arguably" a franchise level talent so, that premise really doesn't work with the Knicks. IF Amare was balling like he did the season of his 1st year..then that would be valid.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Back to hoops -

So now in retrospect, was signing Prigioni at the time for a portion of the mini-ML instead of going after Udirih weeks ago when we had more money to spend a little bit of a mistake? I think so. Udirih > Prigioni.. Just sayin'.

Prigioni played very well. We couldn't let him go. Definitely getting Prigioni is better than a chance at getting Udirih. It sucks we've got so much money tied up on overpaid players and have such limited FA options though.

if we had let Prigs go, guys here guys would be up in arms. Prigs deserved to be a priority and we know he fits the roster while we have no idea how Udirih would mesh.

Clean wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

tkf wrote:why is it taking a lot of convincing to get him here? i thought all free agents would flock here to come play with carmelo? or so I was told...

That is a reasonable question. We have four max/near max contract players, and we still aren't a very attractive option. If you spend your money on max contracts well, players will want to join your team.

If u replace Amare with a legitimate Max player like Chris Paul they would be here. The team is not quite good enough to be considered.

Sure, take the worst contract of any team and replace the guy with Chris Paul. That team will be much more attractive.

Amare has the worst contract in the league at this point.

Why is it we are stuck with the only untradeable contract. People thought Arenas was once one of the worst contracts, but even he was moved.

The ONLY consolation I see is that Amare's contract could prove very valuable in his last year