dk7th wrote:

tkf wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

tkf wrote:

Vmart wrote:

tkf wrote:

Vmart wrote:First of all you need to get that Promise land out of here. Melo will get this team into the playoffs year in and year out. But winning a championship is not going to happen, this is the Knicks and they will never build for the championship. Besides the Knicks can't beat the Heat and the Heat have it locked up. So winning a championship isn't an option here just keeping fan base happy by winning 50 games is what the Knicks have always been about. This was evident in the Ewing years and now the Melo years. Ewing joined the Knicks with dead horse in King and Melo joins with a dead horse in Amare. It's history repeating all over again.

difference is, Ewing and the knicks had some good teams.. Ewing had X man, Wilkins, jackson, strickland, oak, mason, LJ, there were LEGIT opportunities for Ewing and the knicks to win.. But the east and NBA was loaded then. Not just Boston, But detroit, Cavs were good, pacers, and of course MJ and the bulls..

Today you can build a team that can beat the heat, they are good, but they are not a "super team".. The pacers are very close.. the knicks could have been there, but we love to cut corners...

You would have said the same about the Bulls in the playoffs they to struggled at times only to win the series, just as the Heat struggled. When ever the Heat needed the win similar to the Bulls they were able to win. Knicks don't have a chance in hell for a championship I don't see a championship coming in my life time. Maybe a tease here or there but that's it.

you may be right, but as of now, we are not going to win, not because the heat are too good.. the knicks are just not good enough and smart enough... The heat can be beat... I think the pacers are on that path...

72 win Bulls team vs a 50 win Knicks team went 7 games. At that minute you would have thought Knicks are close and we will be seeing a championship banner being raised in MSG. What happened you lost X-Man right after. The Bulls just kept whipping the Knicks year in and year out. Two times they make the finals what happens Michael Jordan retires. If Jordan is there you know they aren't sniffing it.

When ever the Heat needed it Wade upped his game. You need a super team to beat them and the Knicks don't have that.

Charles Smith happened. Knicks should have won in 93.

at some point you had to honestly believe that he was going to just go up and try to dunk that... I mean he kept trying to sneak that layup in with all of those trees around him... wow..

i still have echoes bouncing around in my skull of marv albert repeating "smith! smith! smith! smith!!"

LOL..

DurzoBlint wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:epiphany? there will be no epiphany with a lowlife like dolan.

you will NEVER have a quality GM in here, nor a quality coach, so long as dolan the dip**** owns the team. better men than dolan will not stoop to work for him. he's more interested in propping up his fragile ego than he is in winning. that's the reality, guys.

after watching how walsh was treated, you have no choice but to believe this to be the case... just sad.. from walsh to larry Brown to chaney...

Reality according to you. I for one think he has made some bad decisions but, so have most GMs. Most of the terrible decisions made were made by those he hired. Dolan doesn't have a reputation for interfering with his GMs. The problem has always been his loyalty to the guys he has hired. He kept Checkets and Layden too long and he Kept Isiah way too long. These people were the ones who set the franchise back decades.

Blame the guys for hiring the wrong GM's but, to characterize him in such a negative light or to demonize him without any personal knowledge of him is immature.

fine then i am extremely immature

exactly... me too I guess..... LOL

we already knew that
immature was/is likely the wrong word, hows about it shows a lack of perspective. We don't personally know Dolan so, to demonize him in the way some tend to, when he is just running HIS business the way he sees fit is odd. We don't Have to buy the product if we don't like the way he runs his business.

Te be honest, before I started coming to this board, I never really gave Dolan much thought. I either liked the product or, I didn't but owners were never really considered. During the post Clyde years, the product was REALLY BAD and I walked away from them for a few years. I still rocked my Knicks fear but, refused to subject myself to the product they were producing.

Then came the Ewing era, ...the product began to improve and I was drawn back in. I wan't to see my team win a championship but, even if they don't, as long as the product isn't awful and they are competitive, I will continue to watch

over the past 10-12 years the knicks have had so many different players, coaches , GM's, etc.. for me the one constant has been dolan, I mean there was no other place to look.. and after reading about this guy and how he runs this organization, I can only come to the conclusions that I have already..

Papabear wrote:

tkf wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:epiphany? there will be no epiphany with a lowlife like dolan.

you will NEVER have a quality GM in here, nor a quality coach, so long as dolan the dip**** owns the team. better men than dolan will not stoop to work for him. he's more interested in propping up his fragile ego than he is in winning. that's the reality, guys.

after watching how walsh was treated, you have no choice but to believe this to be the case... just sad.. from walsh to larry Brown to chaney...

Reality according to you. I for one think he has made some bad decisions but, so have most GMs. Most of the terrible decisions made were made by those he hired. Dolan doesn't have a reputation for interfering with his GMs. The problem has always been his loyalty to the guys he has hired. He kept Checkets and Layden too long and he Kept Isiah way too long. These people were the ones who set the franchise back decades.

Blame the guys for hiring the wrong GM's but, to characterize him in such a negative light or to demonize him without any personal knowledge of him is immature.

fine then i am extremely immature

exactly... me too I guess..... LOL

we already knew that
immature was/is likely the wrong word, hows about it shows a lack of perspective. We don't personally know Dolan so, to demonize him in the way some tend to, when he is just running HIS business the way he sees fit is odd. We don't Have to buy the product if we don't like the way he runs his business.

Te be honest, before I started coming to this board, I never really gave Dolan much thought. I either liked the product or, I didn't but owners were never really considered. During the post Clyde years, the product was REALLY BAD and I walked away from them for a few years. I still rocked my Knicks fear but, refused to subject myself to the product they were producing.

Then came the Ewing era, ...the product began to improve and I was drawn back in. I wan't to see my team win a championship but, even if they don't, as long as the product isn't awful and they are competitive, I will continue to watch

over the past 10-12 years the knicks have had so many different players, coaches , GM's, etc.. for me the one constant has been dolan, I mean there was no other place to look.. and after reading about this guy and how he runs this organization, I can only come to the conclusions that I have already..

Papabear Says

You know what! I picked this topic just for discussion and these damn Trolls took over doing thier usual bashing. Put up your own topic and bash all night long. The one thing that I really don't look foward to this coming season is dealing with these Troll digging haters who pray to the heavens that we have an awful season and Melo have a season ending injury. There a guys on this forum who don;t like a lot of thing the Knicks do and I can deal with that but every damn post of a TKF has hate all over it. The thing I don't understand is why don't he join the Nuggets forum and have a happy explosion. But that's not what this is about. First of all they are powerless to change a thing that the knicks are doing. They don't go to games and they root against the Knicks. I enjoyed the other night though how Martin kicked TKF's ass. By just being prepared and having his facts straight. I really enjoyed that.
After 13 years of loosing now 54 wins is a bad thing. Some of these guys are sick with hate. But it won't stop me from going to 10 games this season and having a great time. I quess the only way to shut them down is for the Knicks to win 54 games again and that will be a victory because no one expect us to place in the top 5 in the east. Well we shall see. And go Martin go Martin

KICKED My ass? not sure what thread you were reading.. LOL

1. What to wear
2. How lovely it is to be young, gifted and rich!
3. What he might have for breakfast.
4. How nice private jets are!
5. What color trim on his next Bentley.
6. About La La's ass.
7. Or some else's!
8. Maybe playing in Jersey for a year would not have been so bad and looking at the Nets roster for next year.