knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:It has nothing to do with height and weight...It's the game you play...Its how u use your strength and size along with your game..Gallo is a SF...Barkley is a PF..Arron McKey is a SF at 6'10".Dale Davis is a PF 6' 8/9"..Xavier McDaniel is a SF..Hakeem is a center..Bill Russell at 6'9" is a center..Magic is a PG..

I'm actually disputing melo has the PF body, his game actually does resemble a pf when he actually uses it.

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:6-8 for the most part is the low end for a PF and in most cases is considered undersized, and melo is not listed as 240 on most sites....he's 230.

It's also the high end of SF. You don't seriously think he's built more like guys like Shane Battier, Jared Dudley, etc.
At the very least, he's in between and should be held to the standards of whichever position he plays. It's not like the expectations are lower at SF anyway - they're just different. I'd expect more steals and deflections if he's given that assignment.

Todays SF has a wide range of heights, and if you compared Melo's height to other SF's in alot of cases he'd be shorter as well.

As far as the top 10 SF's just for example most are even taller than 6-8.

Todays PF are not averaging 6-8, and the better ones are taller than that.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:6-8 for the most part is the low end for a PF and in most cases is considered undersized, and melo is not listed as 240 on most sites....he's 230.

It's also the high end of SF. You don't seriously think he's built more like guys like Shane Battier, Jared Dudley, etc.
At the very least, he's in between and should be held to the standards of whichever position he plays. It's not like the expectations are lower at SF anyway - they're just different. I'd expect more steals and deflections if he's given that assignment.

Todays SF has a wide range of heights, and if you compared Melo's height to other SF's in alot of cases he'd be shorter as well.

As far as the top 10 SF's just for example most are even taller than 6-8.

Todays PF are not averaging 6-8, and the better ones are taller than that.

Build means physique, not just height. Detlef was built like a tall SF. Melo is built more like a PF who's about an inch below average in height.

undersized is undersized, which melo is at the 4. just because he's a burly sf doesn't mean he's built like a 4.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:6-8 for the most part is the low end for a PF and in most cases is considered undersized, and melo is not listed as 240 on most sites....he's 230.

It's also the high end of SF. You don't seriously think he's built more like guys like Shane Battier, Jared Dudley, etc.
At the very least, he's in between and should be held to the standards of whichever position he plays. It's not like the expectations are lower at SF anyway - they're just different. I'd expect more steals and deflections if he's given that assignment.

Todays SF has a wide range of heights, and if you compared Melo's height to other SF's in alot of cases he'd be shorter as well.

As far as the top 10 SF's just for example most are even taller than 6-8.

Todays PF are not averaging 6-8, and the better ones are taller than that.

Build means physique, not just height. Detlef was built like a tall SF. Melo is built more like a PF who's about an inch below average in height.

undersized is undersized, which melo is at the 4. just because he's a burly sf doesn't mean he's built like a 4.

He's also an oversized SF. When he was younger and put up good rebounding #s at SF, people actually praised him for it. They didn't just say, "That's nothing special, he's just oversized."
AT PF, he's undersized by an inch. We agree. If you wanna use that inch as an excuse to get about 2 to 3 less rebounds than he should, go ahead. It's a bad excuse IMO.

But it's the height and weight of the guys he's going up against vs his own height and weight.

You gotta think about it, when melo goes in the paint he isn't just being battled by the 4, he's also battled by the 5.

At the 3 spot, 3's and 4's gather around....big difference.

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:6-8 for the most part is the low end for a PF and in most cases is considered undersized, and melo is not listed as 240 on most sites....he's 230.

It's also the high end of SF. You don't seriously think he's built more like guys like Shane Battier, Jared Dudley, etc.
At the very least, he's in between and should be held to the standards of whichever position he plays. It's not like the expectations are lower at SF anyway - they're just different. I'd expect more steals and deflections if he's given that assignment.

Todays SF has a wide range of heights, and if you compared Melo's height to other SF's in alot of cases he'd be shorter as well.

As far as the top 10 SF's just for example most are even taller than 6-8.

Todays PF are not averaging 6-8, and the better ones are taller than that.

Build means physique, not just height. Detlef was built like a tall SF. Melo is built more like a PF who's about an inch below average in height.

undersized is undersized, which melo is at the 4. just because he's a burly sf doesn't mean he's built like a 4.

He's also an oversized SF. When he was younger and put up good rebounding #s at SF, people actually praised him for it. They didn't just say, "That's nothing special, he's just oversized."
AT PF, he's undersized by an inch. We agree. If you wanna use that inch as an excuse to get about 2 to 3 less rebounds than he should, go ahead. It's a bad excuse IMO.

Well, he didn't get them. He's a good rebounder, He's not a a bigger position though.

But it's the height and weight of the guys he's going up against vs his own height and weight.

You gotta think about it, when melo goes in the paint he isn't just being battled by the 4, he's also battled by the 5.

At the 3 spot, 3's and 4's gather around....big difference.

You're saying centers don't provide help defense if it's the 3 driving to the paint? I've never heard of anything like that.

Of course they do, i think you get my point though.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:He's built like a PF - a strong 6'8", 240. He plays like an SF. Lebron is the only other SF with a body as strong (or actually stronger) than Melo's.

I think you are looking at his padding underneath if you think he is 240 lbs. The guy played at 230 and Lebron plays at 260. Melo is stonger than the average small forward which lets him bang and defend the post very well.

I am not saying you do it but it's funny how heights and weights fluctuate on boards when people are trying to make a point. Earlier in the year Melo was a 6'5 guy according to some.

yellowboy90 wrote:Again how did this get to Melo?

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:He's built like a PF - a strong 6'8", 240. He plays like an SF. Lebron is the only other SF with a body as strong (or actually stronger) than Melo's.

I think you are looking at his padding underneath if you think he is 240 lbs. The guy played at 230 and Lebron plays at 260. Melo is stonger than the average small forward which lets him bang and defend the post very well.

I am not saying you do it but it's funny how heights and weights fluctuate on boards when people are trying to make a point. Earlier in the year Melo was a 6'5 guy according to some.

You can't go by those lists. Last June Melo told reporters he weighed 251 during the season. (He said he lost 12 pounds and it brought him down to 239).
http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/theres-less-of-anthony/

He also kept losing Weight. I can't find the article.

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:He's built like a PF - a strong 6'8", 240. He plays like an SF. Lebron is the only other SF with a body as strong (or actually stronger) than Melo's.

I think you are looking at his padding underneath if you think he is 240 lbs. The guy played at 230 and Lebron plays at 260. Melo is stonger than the average small forward which lets him bang and defend the post very well.

I am not saying you do it but it's funny how heights and weights fluctuate on boards when people are trying to make a point. Earlier in the year Melo was a 6'5 guy according to some.

You can't go by those lists. Last June Melo told reporters he weighed 251 during the season. (He said he lost 12 pounds and it brought him down to 239).
http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/theres-less-of-anthony/

He also kept losing Weight. I can't find the article.

Where?! In his toes?
He looks the same as the 251-pounder he was in 2012.

Visine and HD my UK friend.