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Nalod
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5/21/2013  8:44 AM
We didn't move the ball because Pacers did not switch, or Zone. They played us man up.

The better team won the series.

We did not execute. If we got out coached we were by a better team. Better team, better coach.

If you believe we were the better team, thats your opinion. I got mine. Im a Knick fan and I can be objective about our team. Thats my position. You don't have to understand it, but if you invite me to discuss it in a forum you should respect it. you want to go in the gutter and name call I'll follow you in, but thats a waste of time and nobody wants to read bickering.

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5/21/2013  10:37 AM
Nalod wrote:We didn't move the ball because Pacers did not switch, or Zone. They played us man up.

The better team won the series.

We did not execute. If we got out coached we were by a better team. Better team, better coach.

If you believe we were the better team, thats your opinion. I got mine. Im a Knick fan and I can be objective about our team. Thats my position. You don't have to understand it, but if you invite me to discuss it in a forum you should respect it. you want to go in the gutter and name call I'll follow you in, but thats a waste of time and nobody wants to read bickering.

Always remember your opinion on this matter has to be taken with a grain of salt, you were one of the ones who despised some of the teams personnel and make up of the team. We can agree to disagree buddy.

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5/21/2013  10:56 AM
playa2 wrote:And here's why.

The avg fan in NY saw something in Copeland that our head coach should have seen to help open things up and spread the floor.

Coach Woodson sat Novak because he couldn't get it done which was clear to everyone and his poor defense would magnify him being exposed on the court.

But the question was who did we replace him with in the playoffs ?

The coach didn't have enough of confidence in Copeland to alleviate some of the pressure off Carmelo Anthony and free up Felton more to penetrate and score or dish the rock.

You could never have enough 3 point shooters because there would be nights when our scorers wasn't scoring on a regular clip.

That one substitution caused this team some games against the Pacers.

Indiana didn't hold out of the series anybody who could be an addition to help them win games.

Why did Woodson wait so long to insert Copeland into the series, this is where we lost confidence in our shooting.

Now to make it so bad , even when Copeland knocked down a needed 3 , Woodson pulled him out of the game.

The announcers were being passive with coach Woodson, instead of insisting on an explanation on why guys who weren't giving the team hope actually help steal momentum from the Knicks team with poor play.

This is why the Knicks aren't scheduled to play the Miami Heat next week.

This team was built one way, it was built to have different components(specialist) come together and help us win games.
When Woodson didn't utilize one of the components the team suffered.

We as fans continued to look to see how we would squeeze water out of a rock with Woodson rotations. I don't know how Woodson slept at night, knowing if any other player would have played as bad as Kidd played (o pts) in playoffs they would have been benched indefinitely.

Danny Granger hosted his basketball camp at Park Tudor High School for the fourth straight year over the weekend. He was only in attendance for one of the two days because of a personal family issue he had to deal with in Los Angeles.

Like everybody else in the Pacers organization, Granger is eager for the season to start after they were eliminated by Miami in six games in the second round of the playoffs last season.

“Still not over it,” Granger said laughing about losing to the Heat. “I’m over it. It happens. They were the better team. I think they deserved to win the championship. That’s the way it goes. We have to get better.”

The Eastern Conference will be better next season.

Brooklyn, Boston, New York and the Pacers are expected to be in the mix for seeds 2-4 in the East.

Granger believes they’ve got the second best team in the conference behind the Heat.

“It’s going to be tough,” he said. “Brooklyn, they are going to be a threat. Obviously Miami is going to be there, but I think we still view ourselves as a top-2 team in the East.”

The battle for the seeds 2-4 will likely be determined by which team can stay the healthiest. The Pacers were a relatively healthy team last season.

I agree with Granger in that the Central Division is theirs to lose because of the uncertainty of when point guard Derrick Rose will return from his knee surgery up in Chicago.

“I think we’re in the driver’s seat coming off the success we had last year,” Granger said. “We just have to go out and win the division.”

The key for the Pacers (other than staying healthy) is to avoid complacency after they reached the second round of the playoffs for the first time since 2006. The players and coaching staff are getting together later this month in Los Angeles for a workout and bonding experience.

“I think we’re still hungry,” Granger said. “When you have that drive you don’t become complacent. We had a good year, but we really didn’t accomplish anything yet. So, we all still realize that and we’re a veteran team and we know we have a long ways to go.”


Anyone catch how Granger said the Heat were the better team last year, because they beat them? Anyone catch Granger saying they are the 2nd best team in the East and his team is playing in the ECFs right now and they did it the whole yr without him?

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5/21/2013  12:29 PM
Novak on Pacers series: "It was definitely frustrating to not be a part of it." #Knicks

Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Prigioni on Saturday continued to be noncommittal on whether he wants to return to the Knicks. “I think it’s not the moment to talk about that now,’’ Prigioni said after the Game 6 playoff ouster. “It’s painful to lose. It’s painful to start the vacation now. This is about the team. Now I stay quiet.”

I'm thinking the reason why Woody kept playing Kidd is because Kidd had influence in the Locker room and cred from winning a chip in 2011 and could easily turn the team against Woody..

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.


. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

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5/21/2013  12:31 PM
playa2 wrote:Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Yep. Definitely part of a conspiracy.

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5/21/2013  12:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/21/2013  12:41 PM
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playa2 wrote:Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Yep. Definitely part of a conspiracy.

Not that, WOODY just didn't want Camby to play, now the reason behind it doesn't make sense, because we couldn't Reb or protect the rim at times during the series. THINK ABOUT IT !

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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playa2 wrote:Novak on Pacers series: "It was definitely frustrating to not be a part of it." #Knicks

Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Prigioni on Saturday continued to be noncommittal on whether he wants to return to the Knicks. “I think it’s not the moment to talk about that now,’’ Prigioni said after the Game 6 playoff ouster. “It’s painful to lose. It’s painful to start the vacation now. This is about the team. Now I stay quiet.”

I'm thinking the reason why Woody kept playing Kidd is because Kidd had influence in the Locker room and cred from winning a chip in 2011 and could easily turn the team against Woody..

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.


. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

soooo.. coach had healthy options and didnt use them. Damn playa... I thought no more Damphoney was supposed to fix this. I wonder if Mike D could have coached the Knicks to a 6-6 record vs. the Pacers and Celtics. Maybe Damphony wasnt Melo's problem. Go figure

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playa2 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
playa2 wrote:Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Yep. Definitely part of a conspiracy.

Not that, WOODY just didn't want Camby to play, now the reason behind it doesn't make sense, because we couldn't Reb or protect the rim at times during the series. THINK ABOUT IT !

Its obvious. The central gov is controlling Woody's mind making him coach poorly. Then Knick fans will go nuts and blow sh!t up. Then the US Gov Gestapo comes in to secure our safety while putting in place protocols that will ends up controlling us and turning us into a paramilitary socialist police state. Its all part of the plan people! Folks are talking.... stop believing what you read. Sheep! Look at the bigger picture people. Someone is!
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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5/21/2013  12:48 PM
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:Novak on Pacers series: "It was definitely frustrating to not be a part of it." #Knicks

Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Prigioni on Saturday continued to be noncommittal on whether he wants to return to the Knicks. “I think it’s not the moment to talk about that now,’’ Prigioni said after the Game 6 playoff ouster. “It’s painful to lose. It’s painful to start the vacation now. This is about the team. Now I stay quiet.”

I'm thinking the reason why Woody kept playing Kidd is because Kidd had influence in the Locker room and cred from winning a chip in 2011 and could easily turn the team against Woody..

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.


. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

soooo.. coach had healthy options and didnt use them. Damn playa...

This the reason I made this thread, it was a bogus attempt to beat the Pacers . We had enough horses, they just weren't let out the barn when the race started.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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5/21/2013  12:48 PM
Nalod wrote:
playa2 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
playa2 wrote:Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Yep. Definitely part of a conspiracy.

Not that, WOODY just didn't want Camby to play, now the reason behind it doesn't make sense, because we couldn't Reb or protect the rim at times during the series. THINK ABOUT IT !

If something does not make sense to you, then what?

Conspiracy

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5/21/2013  12:49 PM
So now ya saying Camby 's agent is lying fishmike ??????
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5/21/2013  12:50 PM
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
playa2 wrote:Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Yep. Definitely part of a conspiracy.

Not that, WOODY just didn't want Camby to play, now the reason behind it doesn't make sense, because we couldn't Reb or protect the rim at times during the series. THINK ABOUT IT !

Its obvious. The central gov is controlling Woody's mind making him coach poorly. Then Knick fans will go nuts and blow sh!t up. Then the US Gov Gestapo comes in to secure our safety while putting in place protocols that will ends up controlling us and turning us into a paramilitary socialist police state. Its all part of the plan people! Folks are talking.... stop believing what you read. Sheep! Look at the bigger picture people. Someone is!

Its the post the league does not want you to read!!!!!!

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5/21/2013  12:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/21/2013  3:08 PM
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:Novak on Pacers series: "It was definitely frustrating to not be a part of it." #Knicks

Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Prigioni on Saturday continued to be noncommittal on whether he wants to return to the Knicks. “I think it’s not the moment to talk about that now,’’ Prigioni said after the Game 6 playoff ouster. “It’s painful to lose. It’s painful to start the vacation now. This is about the team. Now I stay quiet.”

I'm thinking the reason why Woody kept playing Kidd is because Kidd had influence in the Locker room and cred from winning a chip in 2011 and could easily turn the team against Woody..

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.


. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

soooo.. coach had healthy options and didnt use them. Damn playa...

This the reason I made this thread, it was a bogus attempt to beat the Pacers . We had enough horses, they just weren't let out the barn when the race started.


You mean the same CONSPIRACY in how Vogel didn't play Gerald Green/Jeff Pendegraph and only played Mahinmi spot minutes.... who are probably just as good as playing Camby/Copeland

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5/21/2013  1:00 PM
playa2 wrote:So now ya saying Camby 's agent is lying fishmike ??????
oh god no! An agent would NEVER EVER leak dodgy info to the press to pump up someone they are representing. Thats crazy talk!
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5/21/2013  1:01 PM
Troll alert!!!! 3the hard way
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5/21/2013  1:06 PM
We need to get Woody a tin foil hat. This will stop Obama from using brain waves and making him suck. Then we won't have to blow stuff up and have our rights taken away.
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
playa2 wrote:Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Yep. Definitely part of a conspiracy.

Not that, WOODY just didn't want Camby to play, now the reason behind it doesn't make sense, because we couldn't Reb or protect the rim at times during the series. THINK ABOUT IT !

Its obvious. The central gov is controlling Woody's mind making him coach poorly. Then Knick fans will go nuts and blow sh!t up. Then the US Gov Gestapo comes in to secure our safety while putting in place protocols that will ends up controlling us and turning us into a paramilitary socialist police state. Its all part of the plan people! Folks are talking.... stop believing what you read. Sheep! Look at the bigger picture people. Someone is!
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5/21/2013  1:45 PM
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:Novak on Pacers series: "It was definitely frustrating to not be a part of it." #Knicks

Spoke with Marcus Camby's agent regarding the playoffs and his future. He said, "He has been healthy for a while now." #Knicks

Prigioni on Saturday continued to be noncommittal on whether he wants to return to the Knicks. “I think it’s not the moment to talk about that now,’’ Prigioni said after the Game 6 playoff ouster. “It’s painful to lose. It’s painful to start the vacation now. This is about the team. Now I stay quiet.”

I'm thinking the reason why Woody kept playing Kidd is because Kidd had influence in the Locker room and cred from winning a chip in 2011 and could easily turn the team against Woody..

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.


. Kidd’s playoff struggles have been well documented, and coach Mike Woodson benched the veteran the entire second half of the Knicks’ 85-75 Game 5 win over the Pacers. “Jason’s going through a tough stretch,’’ Woodson said on Friday’s conference call. “But do I have confidence in putting Jason on the basketball floor? Absolutely. That will never go away.

soooo.. coach had healthy options and didnt use them. Damn playa...

This the reason I made this thread, it was a bogus attempt to beat the Pacers . We had enough horses, they just weren't let out the barn when the race started.

or maybe they were in line at the glue factory..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/21/2013  3:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/21/2013  3:10 PM
The rest of the post season these posters are on TROLL ALERT when discussing the Knicks. Mods, you need to frisk them : TKF , NALOD FISHMIKE,BASKETBALLJONES,3G4G


They hate Melo and the roster.
The actually have fun when the knicks lose

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5/21/2013  3:25 PM
playa2 wrote:The rest of the post season these posters are on TROLL ALERT when discussing the Knicks. Mods, you need to frisk them : TKF , NALOD FISHMIKE,BASKETBALLJONES,3G4G


They hate Melo and the roster.
The actually have fun when the knicks lose

well your only having fun when the government is killing school kids and bombing marathons so they can take away our rights, so Im gonna say dissing a Knick roster that underperforms year after year is the lesser of two evils
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