nycisgreat wrote:

Solace wrote:I think he's downplaying some physical issue. We know what he's capable of. He needs to toughen up, though. If he plays like this, frankly, we're better with KMart, Amar'e or Copeland on the floor. I would say that Tyson, JR and Kidd need to figure this out quickly, because if not, I would not be upset if Woodson decided to bench all three of them.

Benching Kidd I am ok with, but JR and Tyson we have no other options. Coach Woodson no clue about keeping the team chemistry going. It is evident by his non-existent in game adjustments. I still prefer K-Mart because he plays with passion and alot of energy.

INDIANAPOLIS -- Carmelo Anthony said Monday he will talk to Tyson Chandler privately about comments the New York Knicks center made a day earlier, insinuating that the team was playing selfishly on offense.

"I really don't want to go back and forth about that because I really don't know exactly what he was talking about. But if he feels that way, we're about to get together right now. We'll discuss that amongst ourselves and figure that out," Anthony said after practice.

Anthony said he hopes to "get (Chandler's) take, get his perspective on that comment and we'll handle that internally and figure it out amongst ourselves."

Chandler was critical of the Knicks' offense after they scored 71 points in a Game 3 loss to the Indiana Pacers on Saturday.

"I watched the tape myself and there's open looks," Chandler said Sunday. "We have to be willing passers. You have to sacrifice yourself sometimes for the betterment of the team, for the betterment of your teammates. So when you drive in the paint, you draw, you kick it. We need to do a better job of allowing the game to dictate who takes the shots and not the individuals.

"I'm not saying that anybody is doing it maliciously. I think it's moreso a situation, you want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot, where you have to just stick to the game plan. Good teams win basketball games. Unless you're a great, great, great individual, and we've only had a few of those come through."

Chandler did not call out any of his teammates by name. But Anthony and J.R. Smith are the players who most frequently operate in isolation to create their own shot.

Anthony appeared a bit put off by Chandler's comments. However, before he addressed the issue with reporters, he insisted that the Knicks were on the "same page."

"We're good. As far as mentally and everybody being on the same page and everybody staying confident, everybody is where we should be," Anthony said.

Many players bemoaned the Knicks' lack of ball movement and reliance on one-on-one play in the wake of their Game 3 loss.

Anthony shot 6-for-16 in the loss. He took nine fewer shots than his postseason average. The Knicks as a team shot just 35.7 percent in the loss.

New York's guards struggled in particular.

Raymond Felton scored six points on 1-for-8 shooting to go along with two assists and three turnovers. Felton, Pablo Prigioni, Smith and Jason Kidd combined to shoot 5-for-24.

Offense alone wasn't to blame. The Knicks were also outrebounded by 13 in Game 3 and allowed Indiana center Roy Hibbert to go off for 24 points and 12 rebounds.

Anthony called Game 4 on Tuesday a "must-win" and a "gut-check" game for the Knicks.

"I'll come out a little bit more aggressive come tomorrow because we don't want to go home and I don't want to go back to New York down 3-1," Anthony said.

TeamBall wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Tyson made 1st team defense this year. WOW.

How did he make it this year but couldnt make it last year when he was defensive player of the year?

They need to reform that voting system. Marc Gasol won DPOY this year and didn't make 1st team. Stuff like this makes the award a joke.

Stephen A Smith getting in Chandler's ass.

AnubisADL wrote:http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9269963

Stephen A Smith getting in Chandler's ass.

I would take AL Horfords comments more than Steven A Smiths comments because he's down in the trenches, he knows what players think and how they feel going up against a team like Indiana. Also he describes how iso ball allows Indiana defense to be stronger against the drive because they are long and athletic. Stephen A evens says Tyson comments are ACCURATE. I don't think they are ill timed , because this team needs a shake up.

We don't just care about Chandler's play, we care about us getting a W with the whole team playing the right way !

Funny how Bernard King twitter account said the same thing as Chandler said publicly.

holfresh wrote:

playa2 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9269963

Stephen A Smith getting in Chandler's ass.

I would take AL Horfords comments more than Steven A Smiths comments because he's down in the trenches, he knows what players think and how they feel going up against a team like Indiana. Also he describes how iso ball allows Indiana defense to be stronger against the drive because they are long and athletic. Stephen A evens says Tyson comments are ACCURATE. I don't think they are ill timed , because this team needs a shake up.

We don't just care about Chandler's play, we care about us getting a W with the whole team playing the right way !

Funny how Bernard King twitter account said the same thing as Chandler said publicly.

But this wasn't the game for that comment..Melo took 16 shots and JR had 12..What killed us was the open perimeter looks and the second chance points off rebounding ...Tyson got man handled...He seems to be deflecting the blame...

Well let's spread the blame, Woody needs to be included and here's why.

Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin and Tyson Chandler haven't allowed any offensive rebounds in the five minutes they've played together in the series.

holfresh wrote:

playa2 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

playa2 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9269963

Stephen A Smith getting in Chandler's ass.

I would take AL Horfords comments more than Steven A Smiths comments because he's down in the trenches, he knows what players think and how they feel going up against a team like Indiana. Also he describes how iso ball allows Indiana defense to be stronger against the drive because they are long and athletic. Stephen A evens says Tyson comments are ACCURATE. I don't think they are ill timed , because this team needs a shake up.

We don't just care about Chandler's play, we care about us getting a W with the whole team playing the right way !

Funny how Bernard King twitter account said the same thing as Chandler said publicly.

But this wasn't the game for that comment..Melo took 16 shots and JR had 12..What killed us was the open perimeter looks and the second chance points off rebounding ...Tyson got man handled...He seems to be deflecting the blame...

Well let's spread the blame, Woody needs to be included and here's why.

Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin and Tyson Chandler haven't allowed any offensive rebounds in the five minutes they've played together in the series.

I mean he started by saying he just finished watching the tape of the game...I mean, was it the same game we saw???...How could he miss what Hibbert was doing...

I'm sure Chandler saw that he himself wasn't trying hard in game three. But his point is we can't score because we don't move the ball around, that was his issue. Even with Hibbert having that kind of dominating game, they only scored 82 points.

Him being named to the 1st team certainly doesn't help the obvious lack of self awareness. Hopefully he watched SAS call him out bc it was spot on and everyone knows it. His lack of effort or whatever it was cost us the game.

blkexec wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Everyone needs to stop trying to trade Chandler. Regardless of how he is playing, look at how dominant centers are in the playoffs this season. No he's not playing well, but you need a guy like him to compete. You won't be able to replace him easily.

But we need a happy and motivated Chandler. He's not motivated if he's not involved.

I've watch him closely on offense this series. There are several plays where he is open on a semi-fast break, but nobody is looking his way. Then he throws up his arms in disgust. Seconds later, he's being schooled by Hibbert, due to guard penetration/ help defense and bad one on one defense.

We need a motivated Chandler....We need to run more pick and rolls with Chander, and feed him the ball. Not just use him as a decoy. Hibbert is playing him very soft. Hibbert doesn't worry about Chandler and I bet Chandler is noticing that and feels embarrassed. It's one thing to get done on defense....Usually you try to counter that with offense. I feel for you Tyson. His offensive game relies on guard penetration too much.

We absolutely need to run more pick and rolls with Chandler. There were times in the season where Chandler and Felton were unstoppable in the pick and roll.

Sangfroid wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Everyone needs to stop trying to trade Chandler. Regardless of how he is playing, look at how dominant centers are in the playoffs this season. No he's not playing well, but you need a guy like him to compete. You won't be able to replace him easily.

But we need a happy and motivated Chandler. He's not motivated if he's not involved.

I've watch him closely on offense this series. There are several plays where he is open on a semi-fast break, but nobody is looking his way. Then he throws up his arms in disgust. Seconds later, he's being schooled by Hibbert, due to guard penetration/ help defense and bad one on one defense.

We need a motivated Chandler....We need to run more pick and rolls with Chander, and feed him the ball. Not just use him as a decoy. Hibbert is playing him very soft. Hibbert doesn't worry about Chandler and I bet Chandler is noticing that and feels embarrassed. It's one thing to get done on defense....Usually you try to counter that with offense. I feel for you Tyson. His offensive game relies on guard penetration too much.

We absolutely need to run more pick and rolls with Chandler. There were times in the season where Chandler and Felton were unstoppable in the pick and roll.

When you run the same(and only ) play, time and time again, people become wise to it and adjust. Chandler threw up one jump shot(which went in), all game long. his other offensive efforts are waiting for the perfect pass, or a missed shot that rolls off the rim, into his hands. This guy isn't showing much for a 10 year pro. Maybe a few years in college would have given him some other go to move, other than a dunk. Hibbert spending 4 years at Georgetown, perfecting his craft, is really starting to show.

If you perfect a play, then there's little defenses can do to defend it..malone and stockton ran the same play every single game and were very successful for the most part.

Rebound is effort, not skill, and when TYson, felton, jr, and melo have bad games, forgetaboutit.

Tyson has got to take 1000 jump shots a day this off season, or head straight to hakeems house for a one month tutorial.