smackeddog wrote:

djsunyc wrote:tough news for you guys. but it was foretold.

amare's legacy - 30 games of mvp type play (which all knicks fans hold on to for dear life), followed by two stellar playoff dnp's due to dunking in warm ups and punching a fire extinguisher. worst acquisition in franchise history (when you take dollars + years into account).

this also makes the tyson chandler deal even worse. overpaid, overrated, and the reason you lost the amnesty.

option a: trade melo + chandler this summer.

option b: don't trade either and be stuck in purgatory hell for the next 2 seasons.

which one does dolan choose?

I'd say Antonio McDyess is the worst aquisition in franchise history, because he cost us Camby and ironically, Amar'e who could have been drafted- at least this older Amar'e was just a FA signing.

People exaggerate how bad Amar'es contract is for us- take his $20mil off and we're still at the salary cap. Under this cba we wouldn't really be in a better position (aside from being able to offer the full MLE). Really it wouldn't make any difference if he was paid $5mil per year (aside from being easier to trade). So those desperate to dump his contract- honestly it won't make any difference.

If we hadn't of signed him, we wouldn't have Melo or Tyson or any of the others. Who realistically would we have ended up signing either the past summer or two? Hardly any significant FA's changed teams. Likely we would have ended up trading for the awful attitude of Dwight, the awful attitude of Deron Williams or the awful shooting of Rudy Gay- heck, knowing our luck we would have traded for Bynum!

There are a lot of worst Evers. Nene went in the dice trade as well.

Bonn1997 wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Why does the media keep referring to Amar'e as having a $100mil dollar contract? After this year its 2 years and $46mil- hardly the most devastating contract in history, especially for a team that would be over the cap anyways.

It's devastating because it takes up almost 1/3 of our cap space per year. We can't add anyone or trade his contract until the year after next IF someone wants an expiring deal. And even then we'd have to take back a longer contract most likely.

"Only 46 mil" LOL. He takes up almost half the salary cap!

We're over the cap even if you take away his salary- it makes no difference!

Lookin forward to 2015. I will be 32 and after 21yrs still waiting to witness a knicks championship

OasisBU wrote:Interesting how Stat goes down and suddenly Camby is healthy enough to play. Why has Camby gotten zero run this year? I know he has supposedly had foot problems but its smells funny.

Camby is a shell of himself, although he does possess about 10 minutes of quality production, he's no game changer

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Why does the media keep referring to Amar'e as having a $100mil dollar contract? After this year its 2 years and $46mil- hardly the most devastating contract in history, especially for a team that would be over the cap anyways.

It's devastating because it takes up almost 1/3 of our cap space per year. We can't add anyone or trade his contract until the year after next IF someone wants an expiring deal. And even then we'd have to take back a longer contract most likely.

"Only 46 mil" LOL. He takes up almost half the salary cap!
The last two years of Rashard Lewis' 118 mil contract were only about $30 mil total. I guess his contract wasn't that bad after all.

THE CBA won't even allow a team to play themselves and take back a boat load of longer contracts for expiring ones..The penalties are to severe

I do believe this will be amare's last season as a knick

GustavBahler wrote:

MSG3 wrote:I thought any kind of retirement frees the cap space. But I don't think he's retiring. Too much pride. And no ones trading for him.

Not sure what the deal is with retirement and cap space I agree that Stat will probably keep playing even if he has to crawl up and down the court. Its admirable, no doubt, but it doesn't do us much good. Wish there was a way that Dolan could give him some sort of incentive to retire.

I think Dolan would do it in a heartbeat. But he loves to play and he works his ass off trying to get healthy. I think if he has more knee troubles next year then he might consider retirement because he'll be perceived as dragging this era of Knicks basketball down. I don't think he'd want that.

If so, do we have to use it by this year or does it extend to next season as well?
Even if we could just offer more money to Kmart like we did for Dan Gadzuric with a team option for year 2, so we can have the ability to add more salary with trades in the summer...

djsunyc wrote:tough news for you guys. but it was foretold.

amare's legacy - 30 games of mvp type play (which all knicks fans hold on to for dear life), followed by two stellar playoff dnp's due to dunking in warm ups and punching a fire extinguisher. worst acquisition in franchise history (when you take dollars + years into account).

this also makes the tyson chandler deal even worse. overpaid, overrated, and the reason you lost the amnesty.

option a: trade melo + chandler this summer.

option b: don't trade either and be stuck in purgatory hell for the next 2 seasons.

which one does dolan choose?

Melo is still living off the Boston playoff performance from 2yrs ago and absolved from giving the ball up in a clutch situation to the worst offensive player maybe in NBA history same series. That was a moment though when "you need a go to player to take a last shot gotta have a star or a Melo"

It's been nothing but extreme sacrifices, injuries, excuses, failure..... since acquiring Amar'e and Melo

3G4G wrote:

djsunyc wrote:tough news for you guys. but it was foretold.

amare's legacy - 30 games of mvp type play (which all knicks fans hold on to for dear life), followed by two stellar playoff dnp's due to dunking in warm ups and punching a fire extinguisher. worst acquisition in franchise history (when you take dollars + years into account).

this also makes the tyson chandler deal even worse. overpaid, overrated, and the reason you lost the amnesty.

option a: trade melo + chandler this summer.

option b: don't trade either and be stuck in purgatory hell for the next 2 seasons.

which one does dolan choose?

Melo is still living off the Boston playoff performance from 2yrs ago and absolved from giving the ball up in a clutch situation to the worst offensive player maybe in NBA history same series. That was a moment though when "you need a go to player to take a last shot gotta have a star or a Melo"

It's been nothing but extreme sacrifices, injuries, excuses, failure..... since acquiring Amar'e and Melo

Had he taken the shot people would be complaining that he should have passed the ball.

It's easy for a coach to come up with good plays when they have a few GREAT options and a team that's been together for more than a minute. When you have a team with one star and bunch of scrubs it's much harder.