nixluva wrote:

misterearl wrote:For the record, Mike Woodson was always a suspicious character.

There was never a honeymoon to start with. Mike Woodson has a better winning percentage than any Knicks coach in the history of the franchise, in a similar number of games, and the best so-called fans can do is scream for his firing?

Really?

You're basing a lot on 2 hot streaks. 18-6 doesn't make a career. 18-5 to start this year doesn't make a season. The record doesn't tell the whole story. Unless he's the one on the court winning games, there are a lot of reasons the team has the record it does and it doesn't necessarily mean he's some great coach. Case in point is Spoelstra in Miami. I think Woody's value to the team is going to be proven in the playoffs. Can he help this team to get over the hump and make it to the ECF's. This team had more talent than any team we've had in a decade. Unfortunately that puts a lot of pressure on Woody.

GustavBahler wrote:

3G4G wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:That's a fair assessment IMO. That's why I want to wait and see what kind of a job Woodson does in the playoffs.

So you want to wait when he's at his worst? Not that you have any other choice but this reply made me chuckle.

Wait until he's at his worst? Silly question. The topic is whether or not we would like to see Woodson back after next season. That's my answer, evaluate his performance after this season is over instead of making a hasty decision now. What would you suggest we do?

All I'm I'm saying his post-season history dictates he'll be fired in theory, which some already think there is valid reason to do so now(although not realistic) nor will he be fired this summer for a poor post-season performance.

Saying let's wait to see what he does in post-season is like saying let's wait until he fails in the post-season.

Maybe just maybe we're bringing in the wrong mix of players and most are not as good as we thought they were...Denny Green REEEEEEEEMIXXXXX!

IronWillGiroud wrote:I want him back only because I think he's the best man for the roster we've got, and it's possible to get hot and get a good streak in. Everything can look better after a strong playoffs run, so it's early for this question.

Short of Woody, only Thibs, Skiles or JVG

I wonder if Hawks fans ever thought their team would "GET HOT" as they came into the post-season every year while Woody was there?

nykshaknbake wrote:Yeah but everytime the knicks won two in a row under MDA weren't you the guy always telling us how these mini streaks were the only thing that mattered now because they proved that MDA could get his teams to play great basketball? So a two game winnning streak seals it for you in the past but now 18-6 and 18-5 doesn't prove anything?

nixluva wrote:

misterearl wrote:For the record, Mike Woodson was always a suspicious character.

There was never a honeymoon to start with. Mike Woodson has a better winning percentage than any Knicks coach in the history of the franchise, in a similar number of games, and the best so-called fans can do is scream for his firing?

Really?

You're basing a lot on 2 hot streaks. 18-6 doesn't make a career. 18-5 to start this year doesn't make a season. The record doesn't tell the whole story. Unless he's the one on the court winning games, there are a lot of reasons the team has the record it does and it doesn't necessarily mean he's some great coach. Case in point is Spoelstra in Miami. I think Woody's value to the team is going to be proven in the playoffs. Can he help this team to get over the hump and make it to the ECF's. This team had more talent than any team we've had in a decade. Unfortunately that puts a lot of pressure on Woody.

When did I ever base my support for MDA JUST on win streaks? There are likely 100's of posts from me explaining in detail why I think MDA is a good coach who proved it over his career. Just cuz he wasn't given a fare shot here doesn't mean he couldn't coach. You know damn well that he had NBA record turnover during his tenure in NY and only short runs with a quality PG which we know he desired! Half a season with Felton and even less time with Lin.

Woody hasn't been here long enough to give a final ruling and if you read my posts I NEVER said he should be fired. I just said he has to get to the ECF's to prove his worth. To put him in the same class as MDA who's been there 2x.

nixluva wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Yeah but everytime the knicks won two in a row under MDA weren't you the guy always telling us how these mini streaks were the only thing that mattered now because they proved that MDA could get his teams to play great basketball? So a two game winnning streak seals it for you in the past but now 18-6 and 18-5 doesn't prove anything?

nixluva wrote:

misterearl wrote:For the record, Mike Woodson was always a suspicious character.

There was never a honeymoon to start with. Mike Woodson has a better winning percentage than any Knicks coach in the history of the franchise, in a similar number of games, and the best so-called fans can do is scream for his firing?

Really?

You're basing a lot on 2 hot streaks. 18-6 doesn't make a career. 18-5 to start this year doesn't make a season. The record doesn't tell the whole story. Unless he's the one on the court winning games, there are a lot of reasons the team has the record it does and it doesn't necessarily mean he's some great coach. Case in point is Spoelstra in Miami. I think Woody's value to the team is going to be proven in the playoffs. Can he help this team to get over the hump and make it to the ECF's. This team had more talent than any team we've had in a decade. Unfortunately that puts a lot of pressure on Woody.

When did I ever base my support for MDA JUST on win streaks? There are likely 100's of posts from me explaining in detail why I think MDA is a good coach who proved it over his career. Just cuz he wasn't given a fare shot here doesn't mean he couldn't coach. You know damn well that he had NBA record turnover during his tenure in NY and only short runs with a quality PG which we know he desired! Half a season with Felton and even less time with Lin.

Woody hasn't been here long enough to give a final ruling and if you read my posts I NEVER said he should be fired. I just said he has to get to the ECF's to prove his worth. To put him in the same class as MDA who's been there 2x.

3G4G wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:That's a fair assessment IMO. That's why I want to wait and see what kind of a job Woodson does in the playoffs.

So you want to wait when he's at his worst? Not that you have any other choice but this reply made me chuckle.

Maybe I'm missing something but who did Woodson's Hawks lose to in the playoffs that he was favored to beat?

Wrong. Hawks fans are a passive bunch. They could care less.

josh smith got Mike Woodson fired

His assistant coach Larry Drew went behind Woodson's back to the front office (Did you know many NBA teams forbid assistants direct contact to the media?)

Yoot and immaturity got Mike Woodson fired. The Hawks kids could not handle playoff intensity. Another reason to prefer veterans.

When it mattered most, Joe Johnson was a non factor. 25 percent shooting? Getouttahere. Silent Joe got Woodson fired.

Mike Woodsons days in Atlanta are no more a measure of today than Joe Torres managerial career is judged by his shift with the Atlanta Braves.

Unless you have evidence of this, please stop the nonsense

When it mattered most, Joe Johnson was a non factor. 25 percent shooting?

Silent Joe got Woodson fired.

So if any of you think the coach is holding the team back from playing like they did early in the season, then you truly don't understand the inside politics of the NEW YORK KNICKS.