mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Amare is not a good defensive player but he is better than Copeland and Melo at the 4. Kurt starting hasn't worked either he is too old and slow

Amare a better defender than Melo at the 4?? That made my day. Thank you sir!

and better rebounder. Slow to react defensively but doesn't get overmatched like Melo

mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Amare is not a good defensive player but he is better than Copeland and Melo at the 4. Kurt starting hasn't worked either he is too old and slow

Amare a better defender than Melo at the 4?? That made my day. Thank you sir!

and better rebounder. Slow to react defensively but doesn't get overmatched like Melo

Not a better rebounder. May get more rebounds but gives up many more by not boxing out.

Doesn't get over matched? He gets beat silly in every way.

Suns almost knocked off the Spurs juggernaut in the WCF largely in part to Amare going toe to toe with Duncan. He had to have been doing something right

gunsnewing wrote:Melo averaging 5.8rebs and we are the worst rebounding team in the league. Is that Amare's fault too?

Melo avg's less because he is focused on boxing out his man(face guarding) and defensively he is better at the 4 in every aspect except blks but I do want Amar'e starting once everyone is healthy. I think thr rebs will go up because Melo can clean up at the 3 instead of box out a bigger opponent. Amar'e is doing better and Melo and Tyson are constantly talking to Amar'e. The numbers Amar'e are putting up offensively are great( Small sample size). His post PPP at 1.07 and 1.09 PPP on PNRs this is without felton.

I think the best PnRs will come with Melo and Amar'e because Amar'e can keep the big from chasing because of STAT's jumper. That jumper is going to help Felton too. PEople are sleeping on where this offense will go once stat starts.

gunsnewing wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:PEople are sleeping on where this offense will go once stat starts.

Bingo!

Amare is already our best offensive player. Getting to the line at will. Easy shots etc. Gonna be nice on Saturday when Felton returns

OK let's not exaggerate but he has been one of the best finishers in the game and has show to still have those capabilities. He is not back yet and I have not seen many other players come back from knee injuries instantly on top of there games. I do think he needs more post touches and hopefully they start running the 2nd unit o through him.

Though they are hardly a perfect fit on the offensive end—both players are at their best when they are on the receiving end of a pick-and-roll pass—they have been serviceable enough. The Knicks have been outscored by an average of 4.8 points per 48 minutes when Chandler and Stoudemire are on the court together, according to NBA.com.

The issue has been more apparent, though, when Stoudemire is forced to man the fort alone. In the 24 minutes he has played as a center with Carmelo Anthony, Steve Novak, J.R. Smith and Pablo Prigioni, the Knicks have been outscored by an average of 19.8 points per 48 minutes.

Making matters worse: Stoudemire, who is just nine games removed from left-knee surgery, isn't rebounding as well as he used to. His 9.3% rebounding rate this season would be the lowest of his career. By comparison, Anthony—a natural wing player who is three inches shorter and 15 pounds lighter—is grabbing rebounds at the same rate as Stoudemire this year.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323539804578259821381854846.html

Amare is the worst max player I've ever seen. I know the article is saying we get out scored by less with Tyson and Amare on the floor, but we are still getting outscored. He takes away so much on the floor, if he isn't dropping 25-30 it seems to me he gives up more than he get's. We need another real big, Amare weaking the starting line up isn't the answer.