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playa2
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1/26/2013  10:27 AM
Those who are complaining now wanting perfection, will be the ones claiming how good we are as soon as we get healthy. JUST WATCH
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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IronWillGiroud
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1/26/2013  10:42 AM
There won't be a "healthy" with this team,

It's built to function as a rolling roster,

We didn't get one old guy, we got a bunch, so that if one goes down the next one pops up,

So you can forget the old guys, they'll be up and down all year, don't count them in any "healthy" talk,

Then you have Amar'e who will be nursing the knee all season, he'll be capped in the mid to high 20s per game, and Shump won't be 100% at any point this season either,

Our Golden Goose is Melo, everything you hope and wish for is in Melo's hands, or, more accurately, his mind,

Just like in our every day lives, you gotta roll with the punches, we can't, as fans, sit around and dream of the day when everything is JUST right,

Pray to the Universe Melo gets hot going into the playoffs, if he's fire balls in April then we're riding that pony all the way to the Finals

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playa2
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1/26/2013  2:48 PM
I disagree we have enough of guys who are battle tested for the 2nd season.

Do you think those older players(Sheed- Camby- Kidd- Prigioni- Durty Kurty came here to NY to hang out in Time Square and spend all their money? They came here to help Amare- Melo bring a championship to NYC.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/26/2013  3:56 PM
playa2 wrote:Those who are complaining now wanting perfection, will be the ones claiming how good we are as soon as we get healthy. JUST WATCH

No they wont. They'll just up the stakes and find another reason to complain. This team will never achieve enough for some on this board because they cant accept the team the way it is. Some want this win their way with their players and their coach. Some cant let go of past trades and and cant accept certain players on this team so the better we get, the higher they will raise the bar so that no matter what, this season will be a fail....
IronWillGiroud
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1/26/2013  4:42 PM
Uptown wrote:
playa2 wrote:Those who are complaining now wanting perfection, will be the ones claiming how good we are as soon as we get healthy. JUST WATCH

No they wont. They'll just up the stakes and find another reason to complain. This team will never achieve enough for some on this board because they cant accept the team the way it is. Some want this win their way with their players and their coach. Some cant let go of past trades and and cant accept certain players on this team so the better we get, the higher they will raise the bar so that no matter what, this season will be a fail....

You understand that, to this point, we've just been spinning our wheels in the mud?

Achieve enough? Two years in a row, first round and out, that's achievement?

The Will, check out the Official Home of Will's GameDay Art: http://tinyurl.com/thewillgameday
playa2
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1/26/2013  4:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/26/2013  4:45 PM
Uptown wrote:
playa2 wrote:Those who are complaining now wanting perfection, will be the ones claiming how good we are as soon as we get healthy. JUST WATCH

No they wont. They'll just up the stakes and find another reason to complain. This team will never achieve enough for some on this board because they cant accept the team the way it is. Some want this win their way with their players and their coach. Some cant let go of past trades and and cant accept certain players on this team so the better we get, the higher they will raise the bar so that no matter what, this season will be a fail....

No man , don't hijack this thread with the re-hashed rhetoric from other threads please.

People just want the knicks to win in the 2nd season, they complain now because it hasn't come yet( 2nd season).

But with the playoffs, the competitive juices start to flow and everybody is on the same page.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
Uptown
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1/26/2013  5:10 PM
playa2 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
playa2 wrote:Those who are complaining now wanting perfection, will be the ones claiming how good we are as soon as we get healthy. JUST WATCH

No they wont. They'll just up the stakes and find another reason to complain. This team will never achieve enough for some on this board because they cant accept the team the way it is. Some want this win their way with their players and their coach. Some cant let go of past trades and and cant accept certain players on this team so the better we get, the higher they will raise the bar so that no matter what, this season will be a fail....

No man , don't hijack this thread with the re-hashed rhetoric from other threads please.

People just want the knicks to win in the 2nd season, they complain now because it hasn't come yet( 2nd season).

But with the playoffs, the competitive juices start to flow and everybody is on the same page.

Hi jack this thread? Did you not read page 3? Posters are taking huge dumps on Felton and Woodson all through this thread and you point out my post as hi-jacking?! Seb pointed out some of my very own sentiments on page 3 and I'm hijacking? Okay.....
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1/26/2013  5:11 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
Uptown wrote:
playa2 wrote:Those who are complaining now wanting perfection, will be the ones claiming how good we are as soon as we get healthy. JUST WATCH

No they wont. They'll just up the stakes and find another reason to complain. This team will never achieve enough for some on this board because they cant accept the team the way it is. Some want this win their way with their players and their coach. Some cant let go of past trades and and cant accept certain players on this team so the better we get, the higher they will raise the bar so that no matter what, this season will be a fail....

You understand that, to this point, we've just been spinning our wheels in the mud?

Achieve enough? Two years in a row, first round and out, that's achievement?

Knicks are 12 games over 500. and off to our best start in decades. I'm enjoying the moment. Will worry about the playoffs when it gets here.
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1/26/2013  5:46 PM
Uptown wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
Uptown wrote:
playa2 wrote:Those who are complaining now wanting perfection, will be the ones claiming how good we are as soon as we get healthy. JUST WATCH

No they wont. They'll just up the stakes and find another reason to complain. This team will never achieve enough for some on this board because they cant accept the team the way it is. Some want this win their way with their players and their coach. Some cant let go of past trades and and cant accept certain players on this team so the better we get, the higher they will raise the bar so that no matter what, this season will be a fail....

You understand that, to this point, we've just been spinning our wheels in the mud?

Achieve enough? Two years in a row, first round and out, that's achievement?

Knicks are 12 games over 500. and off to our best start in decades. I'm enjoying the moment. Will worry about the playoffs when it gets here.

It's true. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the ride, how can we not enjoy it?

My biggest problem is with the big picture and our long term prospects with this team as it is built today

The Will, check out the Official Home of Will's GameDay Art: http://tinyurl.com/thewillgameday
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1/26/2013  5:47 PM
I think the disconnect is that, as a fan, I'm always thinking "we need to build a championship team", but the management of the team is probably thinking more like "we need to fill the seats up, so we just have to be good enough for that", and that's the root of my misery
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IronWillGiroud
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1/26/2013  5:47 PM
Because, honestly, is this a championship team? I voted "I believe" in that thread a few weeks ago, but I would vote differently today
The Will, check out the Official Home of Will's GameDay Art: http://tinyurl.com/thewillgameday
Uptown
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1/26/2013  6:37 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
Uptown wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
Uptown wrote:
playa2 wrote:Those who are complaining now wanting perfection, will be the ones claiming how good we are as soon as we get healthy. JUST WATCH

No they wont. They'll just up the stakes and find another reason to complain. This team will never achieve enough for some on this board because they cant accept the team the way it is. Some want this win their way with their players and their coach. Some cant let go of past trades and and cant accept certain players on this team so the better we get, the higher they will raise the bar so that no matter what, this season will be a fail....

You understand that, to this point, we've just been spinning our wheels in the mud?

Achieve enough? Two years in a row, first round and out, that's achievement?

Knicks are 12 games over 500. and off to our best start in decades. I'm enjoying the moment. Will worry about the playoffs when it gets here.

It's true. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the ride, how can we not enjoy it?

My biggest problem is with the big picture and our long term prospects with this team as it is built today

We've been chasing those elusive rings since '73. Its hard to capture that lofty goal, ask Checketts, Grunfeld, Bianchi, and Walsh. This is the best team we've put together since 99. Can we win it all? who knows...But I know I'm enjoying the ride thus far. Tearing the team down and starting over doesn't guarantee us anything. The championship journey of this organization is almost 40 years and counting....
playa2
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1/27/2013  8:24 AM
If this was the last stretch of the season and we had the injuries to our vets who help bring accountability to the table then I would be concerned. But it's like the half way point and many teams after the all-star break have made runs that change the direction of their team.

Why do the knicks have to play all year with perfection is mind boggling to me as people start complaining and talking like drunk nosebleed fans.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/27/2013  2:24 PM
playa2 wrote:If this was the last stretch of the season and we had the injuries to our vets who help bring accountability to the table then I would be concerned. But it's like the half way point and many teams after the all-star break have made runs that change the direction of their team.

Why do the knicks have to play all year with perfection is mind boggling to me as people start complaining and talking like drunk nosebleed fans.

The thing is this bad play isn't an aberration; at this point it's been most of the season. Since we started the year 6-0 we've gone 20-15 since, the only time our defense looks good is when we play a team with a crappy offense, and our offense only looks good when we're hitting 40% of our 3's.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
playa2
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1/28/2013  6:30 AM
We need our whole team to play the way we are capable of playing. Sheed and Camby makes our defense better this is the team roster I will Judge.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/28/2013  8:11 AM
The reality is the knicks have a roster that will have to deal with injuries. The reality the East is really weak which makes knicks look a bit better. The reality is our roster has the potential to make a deep playoff run but we need health and two of our starters (Shump-Amare) are still working into the rotation.
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1/28/2013  9:10 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:Because, honestly, is this a championship team? I voted "I believe" in that thread a few weeks ago, but I would vote differently today

I was tempted to vote "Frontrunner" two months ago, but I've since changed my mind...

I might change it again if we go on a 10-game losing streak.

I'll change it again if we win the last 20 games of the season.
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1/28/2013  7:32 PM
How soon we forget, it takes time to get the chemistry where i needs to be, especially to please many on UK.

But I say wait , wait I say until the team has it's rim defenders who allow guys to play up on their men more and not lay off as much.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
playa2
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1/29/2013  12:22 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
Uptown wrote:
playa2 wrote:Those who are complaining now wanting perfection, will be the ones claiming how good we are as soon as we get healthy. JUST WATCH

No they wont. They'll just up the stakes and find another reason to complain. This team will never achieve enough for some on this board because they cant accept the team the way it is. Some want this win their way with their players and their coach. Some cant let go of past trades and and cant accept certain players on this team so the better we get, the higher they will raise the bar so that no matter what, this season will be a fail....

You understand that, to this point, we've just been spinning our wheels in the mud?

Achieve enough? Two years in a row, first round and out, that's achievement?

If the areas that kept us out of the 2nd rd last yr are in place come playoff time, I don't judge how we are playing now. IMHO our bigs and our pg's being healthy are the key to the knicks making noise in the 2nd season beyond the 1st rd

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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2/4/2013  8:05 PM
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playa2 wrote:When we get our starting pg back we are going to run teams out the gym like we did in the beginning of the season.

Ray Felton takes us to another level.

If Felton being out is the difference in this team then we are in serious trouble


The more weapons Felton has to dish too the better we are. This team is built to win big how soon we forget, Ray Felton is necessary.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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